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It's not my problem if client banned the account, or it got banned by a miracle or what. I was not guilty in that, I did work on it and I want to get paid for it.

If you wanted ez way, you had that compensation and you did not need to feedback me like this. Since you did it, let's investigate to find the truth.
I am sure it was not my fault. Are you sure that your client is not guilty ?

If I can not prove that, you have the compensation and there will be nothing to argue about, except that feedback. it's still under a question I deserved it or not and you could feedback me like that red feedback or not when I paid the compensation. There are rules on this forum and I doubt that's correct feedback, moreover it's false and unfair, I did not deserve it from you
 
Westmoreland said:
It's not my problem if client banned the account, or it got banned by a miracle or what. I was not guilty in that, I did work on it and I want to get paid for it.

If you wanted ez way, you had that compensation and you did not need to feedback me like this. Since you did it, let's investigate to find the truth.
I am sure it was not my fault. Are you sure that your client is not guilty ?
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it is a problem if you got the account banned , you would need to pay it back for sure
I will let admin do the questioning or if anything is needed to provide
 
I am doing my part of compensation as we agreed on, you could simply remove that nonsense feedback and everything would be fine.
I still do not understand why you still blame us in something we have not done. what time have u wasted ? copy/pasting texts when we were playing on the acc for 15+ hours a day at start and then 24 hours a day we had to play at the end. and you tell me you wasted time ...
 
Westmoreland said:
I am doing my part of compensation as we agreed on, you could simply remove that nonsense feedback and everything would be fine.
I still do not understand why you still blame us in something we have not done. what time have u wasted ? copy/pasting texts when we were playing on the acc for 15+ hours a day at start and then 24 hours a day we had to play at the end. and you tell me you wasted time ...
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you wanted to be paid fairly if you didnt get the account banned so here is your chance to prove it , I dont see what the problem is?
you will owe accounts worth + negative feedback will stay

you were playing on it for 6 weeks straight so I dont see how you aren't the cause but im not going to repeat the same thing , lets wait for admin to provide additional info
 
okay, go ahead and prove that it was my fault. You have 0 clue that it can not be proved either from my side and either from your side if we do not cooperate. There will always be question marks, but we can try to find the truth, if truth is valuable for you, there is a small chance of it and I am not afraid of that. (anyways what you lose if we find the truth ? if we find your client did a mistake and banned acc you will also get paid from him, no ? ) I wish I could say exact reason and had enough proofs to say it 100% what was reason of it, unfortunately I do not have access to the acc, to the account loggs, to the pc of your client, and many other things. I can give you full access to our pc, mine and my friend who was playing on it and check it out
 
Westmoreland said:
okay, go ahead and prove that it was my fault. You have 0 clue that it can not be proved either from my side and either from your side if we do not cooperate. There will always be question marks, but we can try to find the truth, if truth is valuable for you, there is a small chance of it and I am not afraid of that. (anyways what you lose if we find the truth ? if we find your client did a mistake and banned acc you will also get paid from him no ? )
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you cannot prove it wasn't your fault that it got ban so what happens then?
base on the facts we know , like I said you were on the account for 6 weeks farming

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you told me this was the reason , so I think you should still be consider responsible because boost wasn't done safety like you said it would be
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with the same way you can not prove it that it was our fault. But fact will stay the same that the acc is banned and only person who actually got damaged that were us. however we can try to find it, and help us find it. In terms of game and blizzard activites there is still a chance to find something that can logically bring us to an answer of our questions. And funny thing is that, there is still a chance that char may get unbanned, that is wow and blizzard, you never know what they are gonna do about it.
 
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EpicNPC CM said:
What date did the boost start and what date was it banned?

What has been the compensation so far?
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the mage ( account that is banned ) , he started the boost on 12/9 and account got banned 1/13 - 1/14

-paid him for the hunter ( 1080 ) for 8 weeks alrdy so thats taken care of
-didnt pay him for the mage since it got banned , he didnt compensate me yet for him getting the account banned either
 
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I am still waiting for the account you have not provided yet, to make that mage as we agreed on. However, let's prove first whose fault it was. I am not avoiding that part of compensation.
and the fact you formulate is completely different, I had 3 more weeks left on hunter when mage got banned and I could leave it if I did not want to compensate anything but I finished ranking of it and the payment was given for mage so instead sending and refunding it after, we've dealt that way about it. It just turned like that you had paid for total 8 weeks cause we were doing two chars with weekly payment agreement and when you formulate it that way, it sounds completely different. Do not confuse people like I am refusing my part of compensation. You made that feedback not me, and first of all I want that false feedback to be removed.
 
Westmoreland said:
I am still waiting for the account you have not provided yet, to make that mage as we agreed on. However, let's prove first whose fault it was. I am not avoiding that part of compensation.
and the fact you formulate is completely different, I had 3 more weeks left on hunter when mage got banned and I could leave it if I did not want to compensate anything but I finished ranking of it and the payment was given for mage so instead sending and refunding it after, we've dealt that way about it. It just turned like that you had paid for total 8 weeks cause we were doing two chars with weekly payment agreement and when you formulate it that way, it sounds completely different. Do not confuse people like I am refusing my part of compensation. You made that feedback not me, and first of all I want that false feedback to be removed.
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it isnt confusing people at all , you got paid 8 weeks on hunter period which is 1080

" the fact you formulate is completely different "
I literally said
-paid him for the hunter ( 1080 ) for 8 weeks alrdy so thats taken care of

every time you reply you just try to make it more confusing
 
is there anything that we agreed on and I am refusing my part of compensation ?

Was not it my responsibility to finish hunter ? (you do not pay things in advance and I finished first part of my responsibility properly)

Did you provide me with acc as we agreed and I did not lvl ? No

What is left at your side to compain about ?
 
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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wow...gearing-reputations-arena-honor-farm.1949297/
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wow...-gearing-pre-raid-or-bis-pvp-rank-14.1524670/
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If the boosting terms are missing then that falls under false advertisement:

Power Leveling and Boosting services must clearly state the terms of their service so there is no confusion as to what the buyer is purchasing. The following information is REQUIRED in all Leveling and Boosting service threads where the provider requires login information to the customers account.

  • Leveling is done by (automated bot or by hand)
    • If leveling is done using an exploit or some abuse of the normal game system, this must also be disclosed.
  • The person that is leveling your account is located in (countries)
  • If the account gets banned during leveling, we will compensate you (details)
 
so, what you say now. it does not matter what banned account it is boosters responsibility, that's what you say now ? Did I understand correctly ?

When that's the rule, is client allowed to logg into his acc during the boosting ? or how you can find out what banned account after if several people had access to it and especially a client who said that he has experience of botting and you are coming with that blame to a booster who has never done anything bad to your orders until that incident that was not even our fault. Where is logic ? What is fair in that ?
 
Prove it that we caused it and not your client ? or we just trust him on a word ?


You have no reason to doubt in our fair boosting but keep going let's see where this will bring us and what will be the end.

When person does boost for you 20 times and no issues, you must at least try to find the truth first before you point your fingers to the same loyal people. However, what you choose is to punish someone who can be easily punished, GL to make it work, I see everything very clearly.

Moreover, you say we used bot and coming back giving me another order for boosting, and even asking for more. What makes you do that, if we are bot users here ?
 
yeah I said many different ideas, becuse your 0 knowledge of wow can not understand what could be the reason of ban. when blizzard bans there is no actual proof of ban when you are not guilty you can not find that out that easily. I just showed you that there can be many reasons that could cause the ban and none of them are my fault, because client wanted rank 14 with the only way it was possible and he agreed when I offered 24 hour farm. if you have not explained to your client that account sharing is also bannable it's not my problem, that wow boost is forbidden if you have not explained that is not my problem at all. Learn the game before you start working on it and before you make these false accusations you have no idea what they are about and where they bring you.
 
I was doing my part without bots and exploits, we've spent weeks without sleep for the order and this is what I am getting from you. I see very clearly your attitude and I'll wait for admins to make right decisions. what I say wrongly as well about the game, what given info is wrong just tell me and explain to me as well. I know everything in wow and when I say everything I mean it cause I play it for 17 years and I am professional booster as all my friends. To be better than some randoms there, I do not need bots and any forbidden programs and if some **** happens it is not my fault, especially when you can not prove the exact reason and when there are many question marks. Every time I try to explain something you understand nothing out of it.
 
Since the original sales thread didnt include full thread guidelines (what happens if there is a ban) we automically rule in favor of the buyer and a refund must be issued, unless Westmoreland can prove 100% they did not cause the ban.

This is the default ruling for when a thread doesnt have complete guidelines, and boosting terms.
 
I have taken nothing from the order that was banned, so what I must refund there ? This feedback was made by anger to ruin my reputation, everything else, payment part we have agreed and I did not take anything for the order that was banned and we agreed as well that I should make acc whatever the owner had and have not received any info yet.

The person who blames that we banned the acc and used bots, coming back to me to take new order > where is logic in that, where is respect or anything in that ? Nobody has contacted me according my thread and why do you use my thread as a rule ? Moreover, I did edit my thread many times and did you check what was there before I edit, so for sure and for fact you know that I had no refund policy ?

Epicboost started to make unnecessary problems about the other order that was going well and that was completed in time after, but unnecessary prblems and demands to me and my booster. Here is the result, we argued and he made bad feedback only after that to show me what he can do to me ...
 
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Westmoreland said:
I have taken nothing from the order that was banned, so what I must refund there ? This feedback was made by anger to ruin my reputation, everything else, payment part we have agreed and I did not take anything for the order that was banned and we agreed as well that I should make acc whatever the owner had and have not received any info yet.

The person who blames that we banned the acc and used bots, coming back to me to take new order > where is logic in that, where is respect or anything in that ? Nobody has contacted me according my thread and why do you use my thread as a rule ? Moreover, I did edit my thread many times and did you check what was there before I edit, so for sure and for fact you know that I had no refund policy ?

Epicboost started to make unnecessary problems about the other order that was going well and that was completed in time after, but unnecessary prblems and demands to me and my booster. Here is the result, we argued and he made bad feedback only after that to show me what he can do to me ...
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you would refund/compensation for the account that was banned

the feedback is not made out of anger , I only stated what happen in the feedback and it was true
we agreed to you resolving the issue and compensating for what needed to be but you wanted this dispute to continue
you only edit your thread after I told you , it didnt have TOS on it before ( can check the edit history easily to see that )

I am not making " unnecessary problems " , i dont hate you as a person or hold any grudges against you but you wanted to be paid for a account that you got banned and i wasn't okay with that
 
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hahahaha, I wanted to get paid and you wanted nothing ? :D this is funny, really funny. what a delusional person you are mate, I spoke to you to remove the feedback that had totally no reason. I owe nothing to refund you anything. Provide acc details and you will have compensation we agreed on. maybe check again your own conversation in discord, and you have not contacted me with my thread and my threads has nothing related to the feedback you've made with anger, and I will copy everything from our conversation and tell these people that it was not like that ...
 
Also, check the edit history, when you are claiming that my thread had not it, when I contacted you, I had everything on my htread and you just found a mistake again, something to catch me with. My original post when I contacted you and showed you as a proof that I am not a scammer had everything on it



All boosting is done by real players, no third party software is ever used.
Our boosters are located across the US/EU/ASIA regions.
By using our services, you fully agree and acknowledge that you may be violating ToS.
No refunds will be given under any circumstance.

this is your TOS and what refund do you ask me ? You have received the money for the boost we did, I am not guilty in anything and you are coming here and playing honest persons role.
 
Westmoreland said:
hahahaha, I wanted to get paid and you wanted nothing ? :D this is funny, really funny. what a delusional person you are mate, I spoke to you to remove the feedback that had totally no reason. I owe nothing to refund you anything. Provide acc details and you will have compensation we agreed on. maybe check again your own conversation in discord, and you have not contacted me with my thread and my threads has nothing related to the feedback you've made with anger, and I will copy everything from our conversation and tell these people that it was not like that ...
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you seem to be having the words owe/compensation mixed up , they have somewhat similiar meanings in this case you owe/need to compensate for the account that got banned and whatever it was worth that was on it
you applied base on my " hiring booster thread" then you should follow the requirements of my rules

you can show your screenshots
what about my TOS? i refunded the client but its not like its your business nor does it related to this problem
 
yeah ofc you can play with rules as you want, your TOS has nothing related to this, my thread has but at the same time you bring the rules too. So funny, not me you are confused with your dishonest actions. You received over 1k dollars for the weeks I've boosted char, and you are asking for more refunds for time loss, I wonder what time have you lost. Blaming booster who has nothing related to the ban and coming back to me to do more boosts for you.

Where had you been before, if I had no TOS which matters, why you remember that now, why did not you check it 2 years before ? (moreover my original post had it and if it's ez to check it go ahead and check)

Yes you are looking for unnecessary problems, and yes I want to get paid for the job I am doing that is why I work for and breaking nights, nothing is illogical in that. Your diplomatic aggression and trying to make your nonsense decision to be right here is very obvious. Thanks god I am not person like you.
 
I am not confusing any words. I do not owe you anything, I have no reason to be thankful and grateful of your actions, when we wasted several weeks for the order, from where only you've got the payment.
Your client has also violated rules of boosting and you have no right to come here and talk all these what you are saying, you are very dishonest person.
 
youre in denial and just spouting out nonsense right now , you dont want to be responsible even though you should for getting it ban so now you just saying whatever at this point
you are repeating the same things that I have alrdy mentioned and answered , my hiring thread requirement has everything to do with this and you violated the requirements
you said provide account and i will receive compensation then next sentence you say you dont owe anything ?? sigh
 
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You received full payment of the boost first of all and this is nonsense that u want any kind of refund from me. secondly you know it pretty well in these years how many boosts we did for you and this was completely out of our hands what has happened. Thirdly you are coming and asking me to do more orders for you.

Explain all these, what's in this feedback for u, go ahead and explain it. For what did you make this feedback, when you got paid and when you want to continue working with me, where is logic ?
 
Westmoreland said:
You received full payment of the boost first of all and this is nonsense that u want any kind of refund from me. secondly you know it pretty well in these years how many boosts we did for you and this was completely out of our hands what has happened. Thirdly you are coming and asking me to do more orders for you.

Explain all these, what's in this feedback for u, go ahead and explain it. For what did you make this feedback, when you got paid and when you want to continue working with me, where is logic ?
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once again , it was refunded since it was banned ( my tos on my thread says no refund but believe it or not , I still refunded )
refund/compensation same thing
it doesnt matter if completely out of your hand , still need to be responsible if you mention it would be done safely
getting bit tired of repeating and explaining the same thing that I alrdy said in last 4 pages of this thread

@EpicNPC CM , can we finish this up soon if possible? dont think there is anymore additional info to be added
everything has been answered and same questions being asked multiple times alrdy
 
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your post says otherwise about refund. and even when you are doing boost safely char may get banned for no reason. I am also tired of repeating the same things, but such thing what you did is so disrespectful thing and you should not be expecting a botter should do a boost for you. you are in denial not me, you know real reason of that feedback. I am responsible person and as soon as it happened we spoke and found sollution but you remembered ban only after we argued in discord and tried to somehow punish me that I did not let you be unreasonable and making some unaccaptable demands there, moreover that boost you were demanding something for no reason, was completed properly in time frame. You can not explain yourself, and make this right and say that it was not a false feedback. You know it very well what I am saying.
 
If Epicboost was compensated/didnt pay for the banned account then I feel neutral feedback would be fair. Otherwise negative can remain since thread didn't include boosting terms.
 
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If Epicboost was compensated/didnt pay for the banned account then I feel neutral feedback would be fair. Otherwise negative can remain since thread didn't include boosting terms.
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My original thread when I started working with him, included them, I just edited thread recently when som came out and seems forgot to update terms, which I have already updated as well and that has nothing related to the most recent order, you can check my first thread about it and there was everything if epicboost claims that he took me as a booster cause of my thread. Moreover his thread says no refunds and if he refunded it's not my problem neither. and after all I am not guilty in anything and idk why I must be punished with red feedback first of all and then with any kind of compensation, when he clearly not trying to find any truth nor had a reason of report except anger. If you think that's right and fair behavior then do it, I have already lost any faith that there is any kind of truth valuable in this world, prove me once more the same ...

I have lost 6 weeks on the account, got nothing and agreed to lvl up the similar account, I see that was not enough for him and wanted to punish me more and make my 100% positive feedback to have a black mark on it, sure mate you all can take his side which is absolutely wrong and this feedback is false, even he knows it very well. There is no investigation or anything about what actually happened, it feels nobody has actually read what I am saying here and he just cought me in something else which is also wrong and I had all the terms as well but meh, if you think that's fair keep that red feedback but I am not going to pay him anything cause I do not owe him that and person who claims that I am a bot user should not be coming to me and offering me work again, this underlines his attitude about the money.


I will play this game with your rules, and go ahead and check please my original post and tell me in what I am guilty. Person who has 0 knowledge not understanding anything in wow acting like an angry kid and you wanna take his side still ? sure prove me that really there is no truth valuable here, I will accept whatever admin says I have no other choice butonce again, he knows it very well what I am talking about, and even he knows that he should not do this red feedback at all cause **** happens and this is not respectful business relationship, this is bossy attitude and I will never agree on such things. I am honorable man and not a kid to do things just because he snapped finger. If you are interested in, I can clearly show the actual reason why he reported me here and when, if you actually wanna know the truth but it feels like nobody actually cares ...
 
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Westmoreland said:
My original thread when I started working with him, included them, I just edited thread recently when som came out and seems forgot to update terms, which I have already updated as well and that has nothing related to the most recent order, you can check my first thread about it and there was everything if epicboost claims that he took me as a booster cause of my thread. Moreover his thread says no refunds and if he refunded it's not my problem neither. and after all I am not guilty in anything and idk why I must be punished with red feedback first of all and then with any kind of compensation, when he clearly not trying to find any truth nor had a reason of report except anger. If you think that's right and fair behavior then do it, I have already lost any faith that there is any kind of truth valuable in this world, prove me once more the same ...

I have lost 6 weeks on the account, got nothing and agreed to lvl up the similar account, I see that was not enough for him and wanted to punish me more and make my 100% positive feedback to have a black mark on it, sure mate you all can take his side which is absolutely wrong and this feedback is false, even he knows it very well. There is no investigation or anything about what actually happened, it feels nobody has actually read what I am saying here and he just cought me in something else which is also wrong and I had all the terms as well but meh, if you think that's fair keep that red feedback but I am not going to pay him anything cause I do not owe him that and person who claims that I am a bot user should not be coming to me and offering me work again, this underlines his attitude about the money.


I will play this game with your rules, and go ahead and check please my original post and tell me in what I am guilty. Person who has 0 knowledge not understanding anything in wow acting like an angry kid and you wanna take his side still ? sure prove me that really there is no truth valuable here, I will accept whatever admin says I have no other choice butonce again, he knows it very well what I am talking about, and even he knows that he should not do this red feedback at all cause **** happens and this is not respectful business relationship, this is bossy attitude and I will never agree on such things. I am honorable man and not a kid to do things just because he snapped finger. If you are interested in, I can clearly show the actual reason why he reported me here and when, if you actually wanna know the truth but it feels like nobody actually cares ...
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just repeating the same things again but less accurate info , did that for past last 4 pages of this thread
 
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