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utesku

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Trade Guardian Orders: 9

(77.8%) (9 reviews)
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Hello!

I got the negative feedback from the guy who has bought my Twitch services. From the last month he has making things up saying that I am ignoring him and not sending the viewers, but the real thing is, he actually hasn't even streamed. On feedback he mentions viewers dropping lower, yes when they did I boosted them back again, but there has been such a thing as a "promise" as he says on feedback. I haven't promised anything, Also he says on feedback, i have ghosted him 3 days, reality is I have responded him everyday.
Also on feedback he says i didn't say "Sorry", yes I admit there was one time when i didn't delivered and i apologized for that and from that time i have sent him the viewers everyday.

Pics that i have responded him erveryday from that time till the end of our conversation right now:



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No answer for over 20 minutes, also ignoring my question
 
@utesku is a scam artist.
He will convince you to buy more while under delivering.
I admit that I am also naive for believing his lies.

Anyway, as mentioned in my feedback, the service was unavailable more than half the time.
Given his track record and providing me the service at least half the time, I decided to hold off making a scam report for now, I guess he leaves me no choice.

Here's the timeline:
I first contacted @utesku on September 6th and bought the 25 live viewers service from him for the first time. Our agreement was for a week.
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On the first day, I got viewers as normal.
On the second day, I got 1.5 viewers. He then told me that I have to tell him every time I stream in order to start the service (AFTER buying the service)
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That I understand. Some sellers have limitations because they didnt automate their work.
On the third day, I got zero viewers despite informing him well in advance that I will be streaming
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So apparently I have to tell him and PRAY he is awake to deliver the service.
So I tried fitting into his limitations, which is 2pm to 6am my time, as shown in the below screenshot.
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He then started delivering as long as I fit within the schedule, but he didn't refund me for a 3 days of non-delivery.

Anyway, after that I bought a month from him.
He promised 15-25, but usually only deliver 2-4 or less.
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(Screenshot redacted as private identifying information is there)
So then he told me that if I told him earlier, he will instantly increase it (he never made good on this promise, by the way)

On feedback he mentions viewers dropping lower, yes when they did I boosted them back again, but there has been such a thing as a "promise" as he says on feedback. I haven't promised anything,
In fact, he lied that he never said such a thing, just look at his first post in this thread

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More screenshots of him failing to delivery less than half of the promised viewers:
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Remember the 2pm to 6am my time shown above?
Now he started going missing after I paid for a month upfront.
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He went missing for TWO days out of the 30 I had ordered. Man, recalling this makes my blood boil at the gall of this scam artist.
I then asked for a refund or extension. I am a big man, I will accept if he just gave extensions instead of refund for days not delivered.
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To which he replied: "There are no refunds for such things. You can ask for refund only when you have made the payment, but i haven't started the service"

So basically, after buying the service from scam artist @utesku , if he doesn't deliver for any amount of days, you will not get a refund or extension. The service is considered SOLD at the start and he is saying that he doesn't need to deliver anything.

Excuse me? Yeah, you read that right.
Apparently his apology ALONE is worth the undelivered service.
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Basically he is saying "I already said sorry for not delivering, but you ain't getting a refund or extension bro. My 'sorry' alone is worth $50".

And then came the last straw a few days ago, when he didn't deliver AGAIN. I said it was the 5th time but I didn't actually count. From the number of screenshots alone, I'd wager that it is more than 10 times actually.

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Also he says on feedback, i have ghosted him 3 days, reality is I have responded him everyday.

10/24: No reply
10/25: No reply
10/26: No reply
10/27: No reply (half day)

This guy is a professional liar, guys.

And then he claimed that he delivered, despite not replying for days. I actually had ordered a third party service at this point because I had enough of his lies.
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I can attach payment proof from third party site for admin if they need to see.
But let's just take data from my latest stream order, and analyze the time stamps.

05:34: I said I was starting stream
06:12 @utesku claimed that he delivered.
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Note that it is still 0-1 viewers and kept that way for the next hour, where I gave up and ordered a third party service.
14:07: @utesku says, THE VIEWERS ARE MINE!!!!111!
But you can see the proof for yourself. No viewers. At all.

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(Portions hidden for privacy)
You can see that he didn't deliver anything during the time he didn't reply. And as my viewer count was stagnant for over an hour, I decided to quickly order a service that can deliver them immediately.
Hence you see the spike.
But scam artist @utesku claimed that these are his.
Despite not even replying for days. It was only after I posted the negative feedback that he finally responded.

Hello!
Also on feedback he says i didn't say "Sorry", yes I admit there was one time when i didn't delivered and i apologized for that and from that time i have sent him the viewers everyday.
He says ONE time. Lol. You guys just read above and judge for yourselves.

Now you tell me, who is the scammer here? Why must the burden of proof lie on me, when the scammer is @utesku ?

Should I make a separate thread for a scam report? I have asked for refund/extension many times in the past but never gotten it.
And right now I only want refund. This guy is a pain in the ass to deal with and I don't want to do business with him ever again.
 
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Hello!

I got the negative feedback from the guy who has bought my Twitch services. From the last month he has making things up saying that I am ignoring him and not sending the viewers, but the real thing is, he actually hasn't even streamed. On feedback he mentions viewers dropping lower, yes when they did I boosted them back again, but there has been such a thing as a "promise" as he says on feedback. I haven't promised anything, Also he says on feedback, i have ghosted him 3 days, reality is I have responded him everyday.
Also on feedback he says i didn't say "Sorry", yes I admit there was one time when i didn't delivered and i apologized for that and from that time i have sent him the viewers everyday.

Pics that i have responded him erveryday from that time till the end of our conversation right now:

Also lol what a liar, you only picked the days that you have responded and conveniently left out the days that you didn't respond.
If I ordered a service for 30 days, I expect it to be available for 30.
Not 25.
Not 11/21 like what you have provided so far.

Hello!
From the last month he has making things up saying that I am ignoring him and not sending the viewers, but the real thing is, he actually hasn't even streamed.

Am I the one making things up? Or are you the one making things up?
Maybe you need some English lessons on prepositions.
 
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From the last month he has making things up saying that I am ignoring him and not sending the viewers, but the real thing is, he actually hasn't even streamed.

Lol, I don't even know what to say anymore.
Admins just look at my stream schedule the last month.
Tell me how to use the "HIDE=STAFF" tags so I can post it.

As days are counted in UTC, it is not very accurate, but you can see that theres only 5 days I didn't stream.
And when I don't stream, I don't message.
 
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Why should I even refund you? We didn't make any agreement. You didn't ask any questions about the service before buying it except for price and that was it.


He went missing for TWO days out of the 30 I had ordered. Man, recalling this makes my blood boil at the gall of this scam artist.


Again, you are making this up. Yes, i didn't answer you at that time when you wanted, but I wasn't missing for 2 days. I answered you at the same day. Please don't joke, as you can literally see it on pictures that I replied you at the same day midnight
First picture: you wrote me on October 6th 11:38pm (your time). Second picture: I wrote you back October 7th 5:27am (your time). This isn't 2 days!
 
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I haven't said anywhere that these viewers are mine. You are only showing that part of conversation.
I said 40 viewers (third party site) + my viewers !

None of them were your viewers. Why did your viewers so conveniently enter the moment I bought from third party site? And were completely missing for an hour, despite you saying that they were delivered at that point?
 
Why should I even refund you? We didn't make any agreement. You didn't ask any questions about the service before buying it except for price and that was it.




Again, you are making this up. Yes, i didn't answer you at that time when you wanted, but I wasn't missing for 2 days. I answered you at the same day. Please don't joke, as you can literally see it on pictures that I replied you at the same day midnight
First picture: you wrote me on October 6th 11:38pm (your time). Second picture: I wrote you back October 7th 5:27am (your time). This isn't 2 days!

24 25 26 27. 3 days.
And before that was 2 days, you ignored message for two streams on two days for me. Even though it's within your supposed delivery time.
 
You got the viewers. There were 40 (other site) + my viewers
You wanna say that when you inform me that you started the stream and I won't answer, it automatically means I'm not delivering? Look at the viewers count and stats please. I'm also delivering other orders, so you can't expect me to answer always, but i will see your message and i will send the viewers.
 
You got the viewers. There were 40 (other site) + my viewers
You wanna say that when you inform me that you started the stream and I won't answer, it automatically means I'm not delivering? Look at the viewers count and stats please. I'm also delivering other orders, so you can't expect me to answer always, but i will see your message and i will send the viewers.
Look at the stats for that day.

I asked and you said you delivered. But average viewers was 0 for an hour, AFTER you said you delivered.
Then I ordered from third party site and they delivered. After which you claimed that those are your viewers. So they conveniently joined my stream only after I bought from the third party site and were missing the whole time before that?
 
Look at the stats for that day.

I asked and you said you delivered. But average viewers was 0 for an hour, AFTER you said you delivered.
Then I ordered from third party site and they delivered. After which you claimed that those are your viewers. So they conveniently joined my stream only after I bought from the third party site and were missing the whole time before that?

I believe you that you ordered from third party site, but there also were my viewers. I haven't said it even for once, that these 40 viewers were mine. I have always said, 40 (third party site) + (my viewers).
If you mean the "average viewers" picture you sent on your first post, then how should I know it is with correct date. I don't see the date and number of viewers, so I can't trust that.
 
I believe you that you ordered from third party site, but there also were my viewers. I haven't said it even for once, that these 40 viewers were mine. I have always said, 40 (third party site) + (my viewers).
If you mean the "average viewers" picture you sent on your first post, then how should I know it is with correct date. I don't see the date and number of viewers, so I can't trust that.

I'll show the date and screen to admin, once someone tells me how to use the hide staff bbcode tag. The only way to show date is to take a screenshot of the whole page, and there's revenue info on it which you dont need to know.
 
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