False Negative Feedback

[Hoboro]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

This guy https://www.epicnpc.com/members/joeysshop.811051/ left me a false review after we completed a transaction. He contacted me asking to buy a Minecraft account and all was going smoothly, I had a few red flags when he wouldn't use a middleman but I shrugged them off. I sent him the account details and waited for the payment he then changed the email before he paid me, I disputed the email change and got my account locked. He said he was sorry and paid me $120 and I said I would compensate him because it doesn't feel right taking money like that. I obviously wouldn't send him the MC account so after some discussing, we agreed on me giving him 10 random non-full access Fortnite accounts with random stats, one non full access Minecraft account and 3 Fortnite accounts with Save The World. This is completely false and I can provide more proof to back up my claims (I have deleted some of the discord chats).

EDIT: While typing this I found his post: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/hoboro-scammed-my-120.1393696/
Most of what he said is true but there are a few things that are false:
1. I never blocked him I just unadded him and I tried adding him back to talk to him again http://prntscr.com/lmu1pn
2. That's not my PayPal email and I received $116.4 not the $120 we agreed on http://prntscr.com/lmu3ur
3. I gave him all the login credentials for the account including the security questions but he said he couldn't change the email so I offered to help him, while helping him he changed the email before paying and I disputed it
3. I clearly told him that I didn't know what was on the accounts and he agreed to the terms http://prntscr.com/lmu1jb
4. I do not even own the account it's my brothers (I have since deleted that message)
5. People find it weird that I delete old messages I do it for everyone it makes everything cleaner for me http://prntscr.com/lmu4no

Proof:
Sending the NFA Fortnite accounts: http://prntscr.com/lmtseb
Sending the NFA Minecraft accounts and NFA STW Fortnite accounts: http://prntscr.com/lmtsxm
His discord: http://prntscr.com/lmtti0
This is the feedback: https://www.epicnpc.com/feedback/feedback/298188/view

 

[Hoboro]

Even if the transaction didn't have the contents of what he added me for, I shouldn't get a negative review because we both agreed on the transaction in the end.

 

[JoeysShop]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

"2. That's not my PayPal email and I received $116.4 not the $120 we agreed on http://prntscr.com/lmu3ur " This is a lie, yes, this is your paypal email, you deleted the message on discord with your paypal email to make it seem like it wasn't your PayPal email and lie and I can prove that it's your PayPal email, on your thread you put the link to the stats of your Minecraft account on Hypixel, and once you click on that link (https://plancke.io/hypixel/player/stats/Hoboroni) you can see that he has a YouTube channel named Hobostroy, (https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNinjaBob) and in that link as you can see it says "TheNinjaBob", which is related to the PayPal email I sent the $120.00 to (https://gyazo.com/c8a94d6a54648314c3f03d972c268775), plus you have videos of you playing Minecraft on your Hoboroni minecraft account that I was buying from you, so this is definitely your YouTube channel. Also I thought you blocked me but apparently I was wrong, you just unadded me.

"3. I gave him all the login credentials for the account including the security questions but he said he couldn't change the email so I offered to help him, while helping him he changed the email before paying and I disputed it " yes, you did give me all the login credentials for the account including the security questions, and yes you did offer to help me change the email, but I paid $120.00 THEN you sent me the minecraft account and gave me the security questions and then I tried to change the email, but apparently Mojang wouldn't let me change the email because the email I was trying to change it to was already associated with another Minecraft premium account that I forgot about setting up, so once I said that on Discord to you I noticed I couldn't login the Mojang account anymore because you was trying to help me change the email of the Mojang minecraft account that I bought from you, so I asked you to change it to one of my other emails that didn't have a Minecraft premium account associated with that email, but then I wanted to change the email myself, so I said this to you on Discord (https://gyazo.com/14ceb359ab4cce83321d38bf5e656cfb) that I would change the email myself, and then you sent me the login credentials to the Minecraft account and I changed the email, but then after I changed the email you took the account back and changed it back to your email because you said that you thought someone else hacked your account and changed the email (which you deleted that message on Discord as well), in which you should know that the email I changed the minecraft account to was indeed my email and you shouldn't have taken the account back from me since in this picture (https://gyazo.com/14ceb359ab4cce83321d38bf5e656cfb) I told you to change the email to [email protected] (which is my email), but then after I said that I told you to give me the credentials to your Minecraft account and that I was changing the email instead of you so you did give me the login credentials and then tried to play me and take the account back for yourself. So yeah, I never played you, you played me.

"3. I clearly told him that I didn't know what was on the accounts and he agreed to the terms http://prntscr.com/lmu1jb " yes, I did agree to the terms, but you said that the accounts had random loot, and I expected to at least get 10 fortnite accounts with skins and axes and etc, which is loot in fortnite, but I checked through all of the accounts and none of them had any loot on them and all of the accounts were no skin accounts, except one, plus the stw accounts didn't even work.

Also I did some research and 10 random non-full access Fortnite accounts, one non full access Minecraft account and 3 Fortnite accounts with Save The World isn't worth $120.00. Right here on Discord I said that I wanted something else worth $120.00 (https://gyazo.com/e8929c917c593a3aa449b10a004f6a74) and 10 random non-full access Fortnite accounts, one non full access Minecraft account and 3 Fortnite accounts with Save The World is worth approximately $5.20 or less, in my opinion, according to the cheap alt shops on the internet, like I don't wanna pay $120.00 for something I can get for $5.20, I paid for your Minecraft account which to me costs $120.00 because of the high and good stats it has on Hypixel, I didn't expect to just get nfa accounts instead, but you gave those to me since you think I played you, and I agreed to the terms because I didn't know that was worth $5.20, until now, but I didn't play you dude, I changed the email because I thought I was allowed to since you gave me the login credentials after I said on discord that I wanted to change the email.

Anyways if you was telling the truth about your Minecraft account getting locked after you took the account back from me, then we can end all of this by you sending me a full refund of the $120.00 I sent you for your Minecraft account, but if it isn't locked and you were lying to me about that, then I still want a full refund of $120.00, and also EpicNPC please remove the negative feedback from my EpicNPC profile, I never played this guy and nor am I a scammer, this guy played me and I tried my hardest to prove it in this post that I am making right now.

Thanks for reading,
-JoeysShop

 

[Hoboro]

1)All my accounts are associated to the email I sent you (ninjacritzz), Hobostroy is my friends channel, yes he is the owner of the account and multiple Fortnite accounts you seem to have skipped that part where I was not the owner, and because of our actions we got his account locked (I did have some part on it but if you just followed the instructions and waited this wouldnt have happened) and I still don’t understand why you havent added me back if you want to discuss things.
2)You sent me multiple different emails and none of them worked I offered you to try them first but since that didnt work you let me, none of us could do anything cause it got locked.
3)Last time I checked save the world was worth more than $5.20 let alone multiple ones and I did say that it wasnt 100% guarantee that all of them would work but you got more than you asked for(I offered 2 STW and gave you 3, one of them didnt work so I guess it worked out in the end). And you did expect to get NFA accounts, in the screenshot you can clearly see me saying its going to be a NFA Minecraft account. And the part about it getting locked I am not 100% sure about that because its my friends account and I went behind his back and did this he hasn’t told me much but I dont think were going to be talking anymore.
4)I do not think you are a scammer but you definitely did some fishy stuff, you broke my trust when you played me and I can still compensate you but then again you did agree to the terms and you got what exactly what you agreed to, if you don’t believe that is the case I can find more things to give you but I already went out on a limb and gave you stuff. I admit that I did something wrong by going behind my friends back but you had a part in this too and you were compensated now your moving the goal posts and thats not fair, you agreed on something now stick with it.

 

[JoeysShop]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

1)All my accounts are associated to the email I sent you (ninjacritzz), Hobostroy is my friends channel, yes he is the owner of the account and multiple Fortnite accounts you seem to have skipped that part where I was not the owner, and because of our actions we got his account locked (I did have some part on it but if you just followed the instructions and waited this wouldnt have happened) and I still don’t understand why you havent added me back if you want to discuss things.
2)You sent me multiple different emails and none of them worked I offered you to try them first but since that didnt work you let me, none of us could do anything cause it got locked.
3)Last time I checked save the world was worth more than $5.20 let alone multiple ones and I did say that it wasnt 100% guarantee that all of them would work but you got more than you asked for(I offered 2 STW and gave you 3, one of them didnt work so I guess it worked out in the end). And you did expect to get NFA accounts, in the screenshot you can clearly see me saying its going to be a NFA Minecraft account. And the part about it getting locked I am not 100% sure about that because its my friends account and I went behind his back and did this he hasn’t told me much but I dont think were going to be talking anymore.
4)I do not think you are a scammer but you definitely did some fishy stuff, you broke my trust when you played me and I can still compensate you but then again you did agree to the terms and you got what exactly what you agreed to, if you don’t believe that is the case I can find more things to give you but I already went out on a limb and gave you stuff. I admit that I did something wrong by going behind my friends back but you had a part in this too and you were compensated now your moving the goal posts and thats not fair, you agreed on something now stick with it.

I'll discuss this with you on Discord tomorrow and add you back, right now it's my bedtime and I have school tomorrow, so after school tomorrow we'll discuss all of this on Discord.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Adding this for records :

Will update shortly.

 

[JoeysShop]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Adding this for records :

Will update shortly.

Ok so I talked to Hoboro on Discord and he said in a couple of days he would either give me steam games or a fortnite account with some skins and 2k vbucks, I'll update you with what he gives me and once he gives me one of those things this case will be closed and you can remove the negative feedback from both our profiles on EpicNPC.

 

[Hoboro]

^he changed the goal posts but we're working things out I understand how it could have been misinterpreted from both sides.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Removed