False Feedback.

[FlawlessBoosting]

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According to the Feedback Rules:
Grief or revenge feedbacks are not permitted.
Grief ratings are not permitted.
Disregarding these rules may lead to account suspension and/or having your account upgrade revoked.

The feedback in question: https://www.epicnpc.com/feedback/feedback/896607/view
The individual in question: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/euroboost.725030/

He is doing this because of the negative feedback I left on him: https://www.epicnpc.com/feedback/feedback/896513/view

I left the negative feedback for the following reasons:
- The individual claims in their thread: (https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/fas...service-get-your-dream-rewards-now-🔥.1461836/)
That they always use a VPN and that "And if you are not satisfied with our service or something goes wrong, we offer a full refund guarantee. No questions asked."

My screenshots of our message history in their discord show that they:
- Do not use a VPN
- Do not refund unless you push them on it, (They initially said they would not refund even though the service hadn't even started yet.)

This image shows that they do not use VPN

This image shows that they also refuse to use VPN and initially refused refund

This shows yet another one of their "boosters" refusing to use a VPN. Meaning TWICE in one interaction they are refusing to VPN, blatantly contrary to their thread.

I'd like to see a single reason why this revenge feedback should be allowed, I have not been rude I have simply stated as a customer the expectation they stick to their terms of service they publish on their forum threads. Instead of lying to customers and risking them getting banned.

I have consulted with 6+ other boosting services and they all do not do service without VPN it is not safe and a very high risk of ban, this is WELL known in the destiny 2 community as the primary way bungie investigates recovery services is by IP Address suddenly changing (for example if you live in the UK and someone from Australia logs into your account 5 minutes after you log off).

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@EuroBoost

 

[EuroBoost]

I understand your @FlawlessBoosting dissatisfaction and want to clarify the points you raised:

VPN Usage: The truth is that using a VPN was not initially discussed. Typically, such preferences are communicated before or during order placement. I had no prior indication that you required a UK-based VPN for the boost.

While VPNs mask your IP address, they don't guarantee account safety. Major VPN providers have well-known public IPs, easily identifiable by companies. Additionally, VPNs can cause high ping issues, raising suspicions among other players.
I tried to explain this to the client and asked him to calm down. I wanted the booster to do his job quickly and efficiently.

Destiny 2 Thread: Admittedly, the Destiny 2 thread from 2019 might have contained details I've overlooked. I've removed the VPN-related information from my service description. I take full responsibility for this.

Refund Process: I understand your perception of the refund process. Let me clarify:

I initially stated I couldn't issue a refund because the booster had already been paid.

A few minutes later, I informed you that the booster could use a VPN. However, for some reason, you fail to mention this and do not show it in the screenshots.

My primary goal was to complete the two raids. However, due to the booster's unstable connection, they had to discontinue, and I offered to find a replacement.
Upon learning that another booster willing to take on the order also lacked VPN access, I proceeded with the refund.

I regret that the complete chat history wasn't included in your screenshots.

Based on the aforementioned reasons and the client's manipulative behavior, coupled with my experience, I left the client negative feedback. I believe such clients are problematic and cause inconveniences for both themselves and boosters.

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

I understand your @FlawlessBoosting dissatisfaction and want to clarify the points you raised:

VPN Usage: The truth is that using a VPN was not initially discussed. Typically, such preferences are communicated before or during order placement. I had no prior indication that you required a UK-based VPN for the boost.

While VPNs mask your IP address, they don't guarantee account safety. Major VPN providers have well-known public IPs, easily identifiable by companies. Additionally, VPNs can cause high ping issues, raising suspicions among other players.
I tried to explain this to the client and asked him to calm down. I wanted the booster to do his job quickly and efficiently.

Destiny 2 Thread: Admittedly, the Destiny 2 thread from 2019 might have contained details I've overlooked. I've removed the VPN-related information from my service description. I take full responsibility for this.

Refund Process: I understand your perception of the refund process. Let me clarify:

I initially stated I couldn't issue a refund because the booster had already been paid.

A few minutes later, I informed you that the booster could use a VPN. However, for some reason, you fail to mention this and do not show it in the screenshots.

My primary goal was to complete the two raids. However, due to the booster's unstable connection, they had to discontinue, and I offered to find a replacement.
Upon learning that another booster willing to take on the order also lacked VPN access, I proceeded with the refund.

I regret that the complete chat history wasn't included in your screenshots.

Based on the aforementioned reasons and the client's manipulative behavior, coupled with my experience, I left the client negative feedback. I believe such clients are problematic and cause inconveniences for both themselves and boosters.

I mean, I've literally got our whole conversation downloaded. I can give anyone at Epicnpc the full logs of it if they really wanted I just didn't want to disclose sensitive password and steamguard details on a public forum that anyone can see hence why I just took screenshots of the relevant stuff and blocked out passwords and my other information like my full name.

You have quite literally mentioned no reason for the negative feedback, making up false reasons like "manipulative behavior" the only thing I did was say that you needed to use a VPN for my accounts safety and because you literally guaranteed the usage of it on your thread.


@EpicNPC CM Here is the FULL imgur album of our entire dm history:

https://imgur.com/a/Zzzr81j

the only details blacked out are: My full name, card details and account details.

As you can see in our message history, absolutely nothing I've done could be considered "manipulative" it is a clear case of revenge feedback, as a client I'm fully entitled to demand that the service provider "Gamexboost" / "Euroboost" obliges the terms of service they offer on their thread, I have done and said nothing other than asking them to use a VPN which they said they will in their thread. Absolutely nothing manipulative about any of my statements on this forum or in our messages.

I ask you to apply punishment to them for abusing the feedback system incorrectly as an attempt to get revenge for me exposing their service for lying and risking customer accounts getting banned.
They also STILL are saying their service is safe, here is literally one of the biggest providers of destiny 2 on your site saying otherwise.

Imagine how many hundreds of customers who aren't as knowledgeable as I am (As I have been in the Destiny boosting industry for over 8 years now) haven't realised that these guys are gambling with their accounts, it is important that individuals who go around saying their services are safe when they take no safe precautions (i.e using a VPN) are held accountable.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Feedback will only be reviewed if a Trade Guardian service was used.
Feedback cannot be give if there was no exchange. Either the item or payment must have been exchange. Otherwise feedback is not allowed.

 

[EuroBoost]

Could you remove both feedback from him and me?

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

Feedback will only be reviewed if a Trade Guardian service was used.
Feedback cannot be give if there was no exchange. Either the item or payment must have been exchange. Otherwise feedback is not allowed.

There was an exchange, payment for service. I'm reporting him for "revenge feedback" which is against the rules.
My feedback is entirely valid, please look at the messages.

It is very important that my negative feedback stays on him as he had false advertisement on his thread for over 5 years, which is unacceptable as it has baited many customers including myself into buying. It was only removed after I reported him and his thread last week.

 

[EuroBoost]

You received a refund. You did not discuss with me the mandatory use of a VPN either at the beginning of our conversation or during payment. As you can see, the only person I “misled” is you, the rest of the feedback tells a different story.

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

You received a refund. You did not discuss with me the mandatory use of a VPN either at the beginning of our conversation or during payment. As you can see, the only person I “misled” is you, the rest of the feedback tells a different story.

I received a "refund" that you cut the cost off for quote fees.
On your thread you said you use a VPN, but neither of your boosters were willing to use one. Hence why mods agreed and made you change the thread

 

[EuroBoost]

Every time you forget about the most important thing, the conditions. I would never take an order if I knew that someone absolutely needed a VPN and I couldn’t organize it

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

Every time you forget about the most important thing, the conditions. I would never take an order if I knew that someone absolutely needed a VPN and I couldn’t organize it

Yeah, i'm not going to reply to you anymore. Your thread said "We use VPN to match your country and protect your account" that is YOUR conditions not mine. You failed to meet the standard you set yourself. I did not expect to have to ask for a VPN when it is the most basic thing every provider does and your own thread said you'd use it.

I'm done with you, waiting for Epicnpc mod / cm.

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

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Feedback will only be reviewed if a Trade Guardian service was used.
Feedback cannot be give if there was no exchange. Either the item or payment must have been exchange. Otherwise feedback is not allowed.

This is a dispute for him revenge feedback, I have literal proof that none of what he says is true, please read the discord log that I've uploaded to this thread, that shows EVERY communication with this seller. This feedback was only done to me AFTER I reported his thread + feedbacked him.

I'm aware normally feedback will only be reviewed if a trade guardian service was used but in a case where it is provable that there is no reason for the negative feedback it should not exist, I'm just asking that I don't have this seller revenge feedback on me. Think about how it looks to anyone who buys on Epicnpc where they are powerless against someone ruining their reputation just because the transaction took place on discord.

Is like sending someone $5 over discord and saying "Now that we have transaction I am going to negative rep you for whatever reason I like and you can't even dispute it."

It's simple
My reasons are provable and on this forum. (He lied in his thread about VPN usage.)
His reasons are not provable, not on this forum and not on any discord.

Literally just ask him to prove his negative reputation he can't because their is no proof, our dms are still there and he still has me added so he can easily go and try to look lol.

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

Any update?

 

[EpicNPC CM]

I'm sorry, but if TG wasn't used and there was a payment exchange/account info sent we simply don't review the feedback. Since that has taken place, we will not review either claim.

https://www.epicnpc.com/infocenter/forumrules.html

"Epicnpc only investigates feedback disuptes if Trade Guardian is used. Any of the Trade Guardian services including the free service.

• If TG was not used, we will ask for proof of transaction. This means showing a transaction started, either payment, service or item was sent.
  • If proof is provided, the feedback will remain. We will not investigate the actual dispute. The feedback will not be changed.
  • If proof of transaction is not provided, the feedback will be removed"

 

[FlawlessBoosting]

I'm sorry, but if TG wasn't used and there was a payment exchange/account info sent we simply don't review the feedback. Since that has taken place, we will not review either claim.

https://www.epicnpc.com/infocenter/forumrules.html

"Epicnpc only investigates feedback disuptes if Trade Guardian is used. Any of the Trade Guardian services including the free service.

• If TG was not used, we will ask for proof of transaction. This means showing a transaction started, either payment, service or item was sent.
  • If proof is provided, the feedback will remain. We will not investigate the actual dispute. The feedback will not be changed.
  • If proof of transaction is not provided, the feedback will be removed"

So i'm punished for using your feedback system to report someone for false advertising? Way to incentivize people never to negative feedback out of fear of having their reputation ruined with revenge feedbacks.

Many of the sellers do not and will not use Trade Guardian, so that if they do anything you will refuse to investigate lol.