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I guess Justice McCay noticed sales were down, and as he was away from his business, as he often is, people started to become vocal about wanting refunds for services not rendered or any number of other things he has claimed to do.

He is on a mass ban spree, for those trying to collect money or speak out against him.

He also finally revealed his age, 19. So all the previous posts about him either being a kid or manic... a kid is the correct answer.

False Accusations to Cease - eGaming Supply MMORPG Marketplace
 
Wrong thread. Moved to Rants, Raves and Screaming Lunatics
 
Actually, Dragon, is there any way you can possibly dig up some legitimate proof that suggests EGamingSupply is pulling this fraud because I know that you wouldn't randomly post this and it'd be lovely to have something up on "Website Reviews" so that we can begin utilizing it as a database in the future for people interested in understanding what they're getting into.
 
You should post EGS in the title so more people know who he is referring to.
Justice McKay aka Monarch is EGS CEO.

dragonsbait may be specifically referring to this example.
Scammer - Monarch - eGaming Supply MMORPG Marketplace
akagoof has been requesting a refund for EGS MM service. This has been going on for 3 months, and he was eventually banned. I don't know the exact reason why he was banned possibly for posting his threads or chargeback. But he wasn't the only person requesting refunds. Refunds are usually requested when a trading partner no longer wishes to complete a transaction. Their standard policy is to offer a credit or refund 75% back. Monarch states that he is not obligated to issue refunds for his Middleman service.

There are more serious charges.

All the proof you need is on my site.
EGS - Articles

Specifically this article:
eGaming Supply Middleman Astralflow resigns! - Articles
Middleman resigning for not receiving $700

Off-Topic: Don’t buy from EgamingSupply.com – Scammer Alert - Articles
PL company requesting EGS CEO Monarch to pay his $20 invoice for power leveling services. I believe the invoice is 2 months overdue.

I ask Monarch, EGS CEO, to reply to my threads all the time because I hate 1 sided new stories. So Monarch if you're out there let us know your side of the story.

Also I was thinking of writing a Website Review of them myself, but I may not necessarily be the best person since I was banned on EGS (Not for scamming.)
 
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There is more info on complaintsboard.com and ripoffreport.com

More info here as well (Off-Topic: Don't buy from EgamingSupply.com - Scammer Alert | RPG-Exploiters)


I did post that in private, for other professional sellers to not get mixed up with EGS/Justice McCay, not for it to be posted to the general population, since EGS consumers are mostly unaffected by this, and am not saying that the people on the site are scamming, only Justice McCay.
 
dragonsbait said:
There is more info on complaintsboard.com and ripoffreport.com

More info here as well (Off-Topic: Don't buy from EgamingSupply.com - Scammer Alert | RPG-Exploiters)


I did post that in private, for other professional sellers to not get mixed up with EGS/Justice McCay, not for it to be posted to the general population, since EGS consumers are mostly unaffected by this, and am not saying that the people on the site are scamming, only Justice McCay.
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complaintsboard.com and ripoffreport.com complaints are usually not backed by any evidence or these victims were scammed by another user rather than EGS staff.

Unfortunately the Middleman, Power Leveling, and slow refund service is no longer a private matter. Since Middleman and Power Level fees are paid in advance, the consumer is waiting for a service that is unavailable or extremely slow. In terms of Middleman services, some buyers are forced to wait up to 3 days for no service because a MM has just resigned or some other problem with no notification from the staff. So the buyer and seller do the transaction without MM which defeats the entire purpose. In terms of Power Leveling service, most buyers don't get any service at all since Monarch has outstanding PL bills. This is no longer just bad PR now and bordering on fraud.
 
I do very much enjoy seeing scammers like KCJAccounts welcomed with open arms on EGS. In fact, he is a platinum member over there.

No wonder that site is getting such a bad reputation. Sooner or later, people will go to the site just to see it has been shutdown. Monarch has bent the truth so many times that it will only take one more issue for that site to tank (although I think it already has).
 
I've never really spent time over at EGS but by the looks of it... it almost seems as though the users have been in constant rebellion... To make it worse, the administrator is banning them rather than making changes.
 
Well, I have been banned over there and after 3 months I have yet to receive a reason. I simply posted my WTB thread over there and then the next day I was banned.

End of the story.
 
brtev said:
Hey. Can you refer me to the thread or evidence showing what KCJAccounts did to get banned?
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Unfortunately it is not possible as the thread in question was in the Rants/Raves or Lounge on the original MD. Those threads were not included in the purchase of Markee Dragon data.
 
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I haven't had any issues with EGS myself.

Personally, the guy seems to at least be communicating to fix the issue so at least it is showing an effort that any past issues he is trying to clear up. It's also his website so he has the right to suspend/ban you if he wants.

People are to harsh on many companies out there. A lot of the comments about this company are very harsh, and biased. If the company has been around for a couple of years, I highly doubt that they are intentionally trying to scam people like some have claimed about EGS.
 
You are correct that there has been no valid evidence that EGS has been directly scamming its members.

However there are other issues at hand. If you feel there's a bias view then please go to my links above and reply to some articles. No one else is defending EGS on my site ... not even the 8 EGS staff members on my site.
 
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I understand completely and while my opinion is neutral about the situation, I just find it interesting companies bash their competition (being EGS) as scammers when EGS has been in business for 5 years I believe, and now because of some problems he has with media people are entitling him as a scammer. Even if he did scam a few people, that doesn't mean 100% of his order are scams, and it's clear to me he didn't intentionally try to scam people.

I just find it interesting that actual companies are bashing other competitors on this forum yet don't think that this isn't going to piss off the other company to do just the same thing.

If the company has a merchant account such as PayPal, and it hasn't been shut down, then clearly they aren't scamming people enough to be shut down as you have to maintain a less than 1% chargeback ratio. Maybe they aren't the safest, but nobody is perfect in this industry filled with uncertain outcomes due to the harsh agreements these game developers have.
 
Right which is why I started my site. To sort rumor from fact. Otherwise here's the typical scenario:

Guy: Hey! I'll buy from you if you come to my forum!
Girl: Nope, I heard your forum is full of scammers so you come here.
Guy: No thanks, I heard the same about your forum. No deal then.

How is this in any way productive? But this is the environment that is built up among companies and forum. Forum mods can't police outside of their forums so they're better off not recommending them for safety reasons and for competitive reasons. At my forums, all we do is verify you. Then you can sell wherever you want. All we do is try to empower you with knowledge. :D

Pacomania said:
If the company has a merchant account such as PayPal, and it hasn't been shut down, then clearly they aren't scamming people enough to be shut down as you have to maintain a less than 1% chargeback ratio. Maybe they aren't the safest, but nobody is perfect in this industry filled with uncertain outcomes due to the harsh agreements these game developers have.
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Incorrect. It's hard to scam PayPal buyers for this reason. PayPal sides with the buyer 99% of the time unless you don't know what you're doing and it leaves an electronic trail. Scamming in MMORPGs doesn't leave much and that's where it happens. Then you resell normally as "legit" transactions. I'm not saying that's what EGS is doing, but pointing out it is hard to get a big picture without any kind of regulation involved.

Also it depends on your definition of scamming. Would you consider not paying their Middleman for services rendered or outstanding Power Leveling invoices as scamming? If yes, then the Monarch EGS CEO is guilty of that.
 
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Pacomania said:
I understand completely and while my opinion is neutral about the situation, I just find it interesting companies bash their competition (being EGS) as scammers when EGS has been in business for 5 years I believe, and now because of some problems he has with media people are entitling him as a scammer. Even if he did scam a few people, that doesn't mean 100% of his order are scams, and it's clear to me he didn't intentionally try to scam people.

I just find it interesting that actual companies are bashing other competitors on this forum yet don't think that this isn't going to piss off the other company to do just the same thing.

If the company has a merchant account such as PayPal, and it hasn't been shut down, then clearly they aren't scamming people enough to be shut down as you have to maintain a less than 1% chargeback ratio. Maybe they aren't the safest, but nobody is perfect in this industry filled with uncertain outcomes due to the harsh agreements these game developers have.
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I just want to make it clear we do not "bash" other websites. This is a "Website Review" forum as we've had numerous inquiries about the legitimacy of other companies' operations. Everything that is found in this thread has been backed up; not a falsified allegation. We do not call EGS "scammers," persay, because I cannot rule out every member of their forum a scammer due to bad reviews for one person. HOWEVER, the review is more geared for recommendations; and if the lead admin is practicing business like this, it's clear that it's a touchy subject on whether or not to do business with them.
 
I also want to point out that this thread was originally posted in the professional sellers forum only. It was intended to show only the other professional sellers that Justice McCay, was not to be trusted. The people on the forums themselves, were not mentioned in the original post.
 
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TJP said:
I just want to make it clear we do not "bash" other websites. This is a "Website Review" forum as we've had numerous inquiries about the legitimacy of other companies' operations. Everything that is found in this thread has been backed up; not a falsified allegation. We do not call EGS "scammers," persay, because I cannot rule out every member of their forum a scammer due to bad reviews for one person. HOWEVER, the review is more geared for recommendations; and if the lead admin is practicing business like this, it's clear that it's a touchy subject on whether or not to do business with them.
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Posting a comment about a company that was negative, and then twisting it to make them look worse is bashing them. Some of the people have never even used EGS services, yet they bash them. You have the right to free speech in the United States, however posting a lie is a civil matter. Over the past few years, I have personally seen many slanderous things on this board against dozens of companies. Some of the comments posted directly feed off other lies that were previously told about them. All in all, it's really hard to believe what you hear based off other peoples comments which are most likely false to begin with.

A perfect example is IGE. IGE has thousands of complaints out there. Some people purposely bash them to make them look worse than they actually are. Some of the people bashing them most likely have never ordered from them, yet they still bash them. The facts are however that IGE has been in business for close to 8 years, and if IGE was purposely defrauding people, they would not be in business still.

While in no way I was directly implying that TJP/BRTEV were bashing EGS, there are a few websites I have specifically seen bashing other companies for the past few years on this forum, and one of them posted on this same specific thread.

Posting a review about a website experience is perfectly fine. However, purposely lying to portray them as fraudulent is slanderous, and can be brought up in civil court.
 
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Monarch is definitely dishonest, as is proven by his announcement to all registered users at EGS. I saved a clipping and posted it at my own site to call him out and document it.

"I deeply apologize that the site was not functional for a period of about a week (maybe longer). I thought the problem had been fixed before I left for Haiti during the crisis there, where I volunteered everyday helping the people receive medical attention, food, equipment, supplies, and water."
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At the time, they were turning down paramedics, student nurses and doctors, and even graduate nurses and doctors... why? Because the moment it happened, they were inundated with fully qualified volunteers.

So if even doctors are being turned away, why would they want a young guy that runs a forum?
That destroyed my last shed of faith or respect.

Right now, he's feeling a squeeze and is only refunding his users that scream the loudest. Those whom don't aren't getting repaid after waiting for months. Some users are afraid to really put their foot down because, yes, they're getting banned and complaints are getting deleted. Brtev has shown me several fresh threads that have later been deleted because someone said something like, "Well, it's been about a month. I'm getting upset with you now. You lied to us."

Hopefully, Justice will come clean. He's got too much market share on FFXI to be cheating people like that. He needs to recognize the responsibility that goes with having that kind of power.
 
They'll last until he's back.
It's nothing new, it's been said before. Just this time he doesn't have anyone to fall back on, and I doubt anyone will be stupid enough to MM for him.
 
I've never been on egs but I took sometime to read that post artemys and I can't believe you guys put up with him this long.
 
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