Double negative feedback (insulting) in a failed deal offsite

[Sayo55]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Previously banned: Alreadytaken

I met this user in epic npc, new user in epicnpc less than a month and new user in facebook, less than 3 months.

willar71​

The user posted the same post in facebook.
I contacted the user by phone cause he provided his number.
We dealt on facebook. I offered him to used mm but he said not becaue ''they all are scammers" I insisted about using EPICNPC middleman but he rejected.
Imagine offering such account in advance without getting paid...
So we dealt I accepted the conditions because at first were advantageous for me. So I changed all, ALL. I noticed that the mail was being used by a lot of devices, weird because the seller told me I hadn't pc.
And then I paid, luckily, the platform xoom payapl needed some id credentials for completing the payment proccess. So the money was on hold. I even called for accelerate the process.
So as soon I paid him, I wanted to ensure all was okay but surprise, all the recovery phone where changed to his again. The mail has attached to it a ''brand email'' and thats weird for me.
So the guy was silent for 20/30 minutes while I was trying to secure the mail.
Then I said ''I received a notification security is that you'' and sent me a screenshot OF OUR CONVERSATION and he goes sorry wrong screenshot, so I started to suspect a lot then I went modo diablo and I tried to delete the gmail (I thought I
did lose my money at that point but the money was still on hold) for recreating it with my own data. (That was a fail because the gmail was frozen or thats what I thought but he could easily recover it'').
He played the victim and said you are doing wrong blah blah but EVEN SO he tried to re-do the deal hahaha
So I investigated further and I saw the very same copy/paste post in several facebook pages and I even catched the post log and I could see how he suddenly changed the price from 1500 to 500, what a dicount isn't?

So I came back to change my feedback and the guy did the same only he did it insulting me and gave double negative feedback for the same deal made offsite.

The guy is 100% a scammer and resentful so either, ban him or force him to remove the feedback.

 

[EpicNPC Mod]

@willar71 Please provide proof of transaction.

 

[willar71]

I met this user in epic npc, new user in epicnpc less than a month and new user in facebook, less than 3 months.

willar71​

The user posted the same post in facebook.
I contacted the user by phone cause he provided his number.
We dealt on facebook. I offered him to used mm but he said not becaue ''they all are scammers" I insisted about using EPICNPC middleman but he rejected.
Imagine offering such account in advance without getting paid...
So we dealt I accepted the conditions because at first were advantageous for me. So I changed all, ALL. I noticed that the mail was being used by a lot of devices, weird because the seller told me I hadn't pc.
And then I paid, luckily, the platform xoom payapl needed some id credentials for completing the payment proccess. So the money was on hold. I even called for accelerate the process.
So as soon I paid him, I wanted to ensure all was okay but surprise, all the recovery phone where changed to his again. The mail has attached to it a ''brand email'' and thats weird for me.
So the guy was silent for 20/30 minutes while I was trying to secure the mail.
Then I said ''I received a notification security is that you'' and sent me a screenshot OF OUR

@willar71 Please provide proof of transaction.

No transaction was completed, and no payment was received as @Sayo55 has kindly shown in the image above. I gave him the logins and the set the recovery details to his, which he will attest to.He even changed the email password. I dont know if it was just pure incompetence or what but @Sayo55 quite literally deleted the linked gmail account as shown in the attached images.Google treated the sudden deletion as a malicious hacking attempt and reverted to the old recoveries. I made an attempt to give Sayo55 back full control of the account but he was finnicky . I dont know why he blames me for the failure when it was clearly due to his own hubris. @Sayo55 deleted the linked gmail account, it was his fault gmail reset , he had full control of the gmail and had recovery set to his own details, i had not received any funds from him. How am i at fault?

 

[willar71]

No transaction was completed, and no payment was received as @Sayo55 has kindly shown in the image above. I gave him the logins and the set the recovery details to his, which he will attest to.He even changed the email password. I dont know if it was just pure incompetence or what but @Sayo55 quite literally deleted the linked gmail account as shown in the attached images.Google treated the sudden deletion as a malicious hacking attempt and reverted to the old recoveries. I made an attempt to give Sayo55 back full control of the account but he was finnicky . I dont know why he blames me for the failure when it was clearly due to his own hubris. @Sayo55 deleted the linked gmail account, it was his fault gmail reset , he had full control of the gmail and had recovery set to his own details, i had not received any funds from him. How am i at fault?

After encountering a tonne of Indian scammers , i know what a scammer . While @Sayo55 is not a scammer , he has a very poor understanding of gmail and risk making similar mistakes if his response it to use someone as a scapegoat instead of learning and accepting his shortcomings.

 

[Sayo55]

Banned - Previously banned: Alreadytaken

And again insults, maybe you are the incompetent or the fool kid here, cause I've sold and bought plenty and NEVER had any trouble or any middleman assignated to the deals. Maybe you are the stupid for not securing properly your email because I entered to a full red flag alerts account. He claimed being the original owner and he told me he had never paid for any in-game product so the account maybe be transferred, he declined that after I opend the ticket for smilegate. As I said dude has done suspicious acting, so for me is not trustworthy even if he provided full data before getting paid.

 

[willar71]

@Sayo55 Did you delete the linked gmail account?

 

[Sayo55]

Banned - Previously banned: Alreadytaken

And again I wanna make this clear this thread is for feedback recusal. This guy gave double bad feedback for a deal offsite. I provided all the information of what happened in case anyone wants to deal with him, people need to be informed.

 

[Sayo55]

Banned - Previously banned: Alreadytaken

@Sayo55 Did you delete the linked gmail account?

Yes I did it, I clearly said it in the first paragraph I am not a liar and shady like you.

 

[willar71]

Yes I did it, I clearly said it in the first paragraph I am not a liar and shady like you.

I rest my case. @mods . This is confirmation of what i described above .He's a victim of his own incompetence and still wants to point finger at me. For all i know , he could have deleted my epic7 account , given his fresh track record of deleting important accounts. He is a danger to other members .

 

[willar71]

And again I wanna make this clear this thread is for feedback recusal. This guy gave double bad feedback for a deal offsite. I provided all the information of what happened in case anyone wants to deal with him, people need to be informed.

Those were both replies. You can only rate a person once. Look the numbers above the green and red squares. See ,just plain incompetence.

 

[Sayo55]

Banned - Previously banned: Alreadytaken

EpicNPC Mod​

I won't reply any further you can clearly see his intentions.

For any person who read this and is thinking on dealing with this guy, save your time dude is not trustworthy and the account is reported to smilegate and already doomed. I upload my last proof of how he changed the original price of 1500 to 500.

 

[willar71]

EpicNPC Mod​

I won't reply any further you can clearly see his intentions.

For any person who read this and is thinking on dealing with this guy, save your time dude is not trustworthy and the account is reported to smilegate and already doomed. I upload my last proof of how he changed the original price of 1500 to 500.

Google "Why would a business lower the price of a product or service ?" I don't get the point you're trying to make .You're grasping at straws.