Dissappointed in Toonvendor

mpsyhk · Jul 26, 2012

To the EpicNPC community,

Although i do truly believe Toonvendor, (John Fitch) is a great guy, i would have never expected myself to get into a blunder with him.

I have actually purchased a name change service (500 USD) from him around 3 months ago, and until this date nothing has been done. Whats worse, is the fact that he has been MIA for the past month or month and a half, not replying to emails, phone calls or text messages.

This type of behavior is strange, i have to admit, since we have done several business transactions in the past but, if he were to go on vacation or leave the country for a while, a courtesy email would have sufficed and i would have been able to wait patiently until he took care of his own business. Unfortunately this is not the case. He dissappears with absolutely no trace or warning.

Anyways, i have not put this thread in the scammed section because im not sure what has happened to him, or if he got into some kind of accident, nor am i trying to get any form of refund from the service. Just wanted to state that i am dissappointed in his service and moreso, the whole situation.

To those that want to get this done, i dont recommend it.

Thats my rant.

If anyone who knows John personally, please tell him i have been looking for him.

Sky~ · Jul 27, 2012

John could have found himself in legal trouble from what I have heard. No telling if you will ever get that service or a refund.

Catastrophic · Jul 27, 2012

Sky~ said:
John could have found himself in legal trouble from what I have heard. No telling if you will ever get that service or a refund.

This. He can be in some serious trouble after scamming one member for $800. His name changing thing involved illegal IDs and documents which could lead to some serious jail time.

harz0rz · Jul 27, 2012

John messed with the bull and got the horns. Might not hear from him for awhile.

Ash · Jul 27, 2012

Have you even read the thread? Also, the issue you're referencing is that he used a fake ID to recover a clients account for the client. What an awful human being.
Mpsyhk, hit me up on aim.

harz0rz · Jul 27, 2012

Ash said:
Have you even read the thread? Also, the issue you're referencing is that he used a fake ID to recover a clients account for the client. What an awful human being.
Mpsyhk, hit me up on aim.

If someone can call you a name Ash, it couldn't be anything other than consistant. You are habitually misinformed, yet rush to judgement, eagerly displaying your resplendent ignorance time and time again. Your blind love for John is nothing short of embarassing.

I've spoken personally with numerous people John has scammed and have been supplied pictures of fake IDs he has used to not only steal wow accounts, but to steal sysop status of websites and other online holdings.

How can you support someone who has literally been show in chat logs to be laughing about stealing a website from someone with a fake ID he made. He was laughing at the security loophole and how easy it was to exploit. You lie with snakes and yer gonna get bitten

Ash · Jul 27, 2012

consistent*, god help you.
I side with him because thus far, he has never given me up, never let me down, never ran around me and deserted me.
Jokes aside, it's not a coincidence that he (a re-seller), has the biggest client base out of all the sellers on the site (maybe TGS excluded), and he repeatedly goes out of his way to make sure that each client and buyer feels safe. In your case, John literally loses money when SOME idiotic client decides that after an agreement, he doesn't want the account. Talk about embarrassing, you start a scam thread over a deal where you willingly gave up the accounts and honestly, you're a joke. If a time comes where John has ever is less than stellar, I'll make the choice to stop dealing with him. Until then, hop off.

- - - Updated - - -

also, please hit me up with those logs you were talking about, i'd like to see them.

KBK · Jul 27, 2012

As many people know, John and I are business partners.. to clear up some confusion / misconceptions, John isn't in any legal trouble and will not be in any, @ mpsyhk I know that John's been backed up with name changes and we're only really able to do a couple at a time and they're pretty time consuming. There's a good chance he might have just forgot about your name change, and for that I apologize but I'm sure he'll get it done for you. Like many of you, I haven't really had much contact with John for the past month or so until I talked to him on the phone last night, I didn't really get much out of him.. just that he's been out of town for a month dealing with a family emergency and told me that he would be on today (probably sometime later tonight) and that I'd be taking things over for a little while so that he can deal with whatever he has going on.

Keenz511 · Jul 27, 2012

Dude he has a life, deals with tons of clients all the time and is usually very busy, give him a break
John is not a scammer and does not have a scamming bone in his body, hes like the nicest guy you can meet (which is hard to find in the selling business) and actually cares about his clients
Like seriously I know for a fact John would never scam anyone, and if he did forget about your or not get back to you im SURE there was a good honest reason behind it, its not easy running a business like he does
if you really do think he scammed youthen you should at least post sufficient logs and evidence

kookajamo95 · Jul 27, 2012

harz0rz said:
If someone can call you a name Ash, it couldn't be anything other than consistant. You are habitually misinformed, yet rush to judgement, eagerly displaying your resplendent ignorance time and time again. Your blind love for John is nothing short of embarassing.

I've spoken personally with numerous people John has scammed and have been supplied pictures of fake IDs he has used to not only steal wow accounts, but to steal sysop status of websites and other online holdings.

How can you support someone who has literally been show in chat logs to be laughing about stealing a website from someone with a fake ID he made. He was laughing at the security loophole and how easy it was to exploit. You lie with snakes and yer gonna get bitten

If someone could call you something Harz0rz, it would be an internet tough guy. You keep referencing time and time again that you went and filed some sort of complaint with legal authorities about John. News Flash, nobody cares. I don't see how anyone on this board even has any respect for your *** after all the stupid bull **** you post on here. In all seriousness, I don't even know you but every single post I've seen from you has been complete nonsensical garbage. You post your uninformed, unintelligent opinions and arguments everywhere you can even in places they don't belong. I'm surprised you aren't banned yet seeing as you post useless garbage in every scam thread I've ever read when you yourself told others they would get infractions if they did the exact same thing.

You're also incredibly hypocritical. In that same thread about John you started he posted something where you talked about how you were angry with how the people running these boards would let someone mindlessly slander another person's name and business without any real proof. Well let me tell you sir, when you made that post about John that was exactly what you were doing.

Hell, John even provided proof and you provided absolutely nothing but a load off bull **** about how you were going to get him in legal trouble. Again, nobody gives a damn about your tough guy act. You must feel pretty inferior in real life to act like such a big guy on the internet.

And for the record, I don't like, dislike or even know John. All I know is that you're a raving hypocrite who enjoys acting tough online. I think these boards would be better if you just stopped posting.

TL;DR: You're the cancer of Epicnpc.

EDIT: Also, here's the post where you talk about hypocrisy and self respect. You should read what you posted here and then read the thread you made about John. You Literally made a passive aggressive thread for the sole purpose of slandering John's name on these boards a month after raging that someone else did the same thing. You're so hypocritical it's mind boggling.http://www.epicnpc.com/rants-raves-screaming-lunatics/[email protected]

Phantomous · Jul 28, 2012

kookajamo95 said:
If someone could call you something Harz0rz, it would be an internet tough guy. You keep referencing time and time again that you went and filed some sort of complaint with legal authorities about John. News Flash, nobody cares. I don't see how anyone on this board even has any respect for your *** after all the stupid bull **** you post on here. In all seriousness, I don't even know you but every single post I've seen from you has been complete nonsensical garbage. You post your uninformed, unintelligent opinions and arguments everywhere you can even in places they don't belong. I'm surprised you aren't banned yet seeing as you post useless garbage in every scam thread I've ever read when you yourself told others they would get infractions if they did the exact same thing.

You're also incredibly hypocritical. In that same thread about John you started he posted something where you talked about how you were angry with how the people running these boards would let someone mindlessly slander another person's name and business without any real proof. Well let me tell you sir, when you made that post about John that was exactly what you were doing.

Hell, John even provided proof and you provided absolutely nothing but a load off bull **** about how you were going to get him in legal trouble. Again, nobody gives a damn about your tough guy act. You must feel pretty inferior in real life to act like such a big guy on the internet.

And for the record, I don't like, dislike or even know John. All I know is that you're a raving hypocrite who enjoys acting tough online. I think these boards would be better if you just stopped posting.

TL;DR: You're the cancer of Epicnpc.

EDIT: Also, here's the post where you talk about hypocrisy and self respect. You should read what you posted here and then read the thread you made about John. You Literally made a passive aggressive thread for the sole purpose of slandering John's name on these boards a month after raging that someone else did the same thing. You're so hypocritical it's mind boggling.http://www.epicnpc.com/rants-raves-screaming-lunatics/[email protected]

I love you collin

MaskedArmory · Jul 28, 2012

I am not the biggest fan of John, but there is no doubt that he takes care of his clients. Give him a bit of time and I am sure that the issue will be rectified.

As for Harz0rz, do not pay him any mind. He just gets angry whenever he cannot buy an account an extreme discount for his own "personal use" and then turn it around on the auction site for at least double or triple. That speaks to the kind of salesman he is. While John and I might have extravagant prices, we also have the best clients in the world. I guess people rather pay those higher prices to be treated properly

I still laugh at the fact that he has been John's biggest fan up until the scam thread that he opened on him. Let me guess -- the next scammer will be Jano (according to harz0z that is)!

TrevorsMD · Jul 28, 2012

I am in the same exact boat i have paid for my name change and have been waiting for him to come back im on the last step of the name change to and i can not go forward without him... I have tried various contact methods... Please toon come back...

Twizz · Jul 28, 2012

I don't know if anyone read the "family emergency" part you might want to give him awhile. I don't know why you guys continue to bash this man over and over from what I can tell his clients always come first just takes him awhile.

Eu_Dreamer · Jul 28, 2012

KHAccounts.net said:
As for Harz0rz, do not pay him any mind. He just gets angry whenever he cannot buy an account an extreme discount for his own "personal use" and then turn it around on the auction site for at least double or triple. That speaks to the kind of salesman he is. While John and I might have extravagant prices, we also have the best clients in the world. I guess people rather pay those higher prices to be treated properly

I completely agree.
I just think there are people who want to feel so strong, but they are only children and maybe even jealous.

I have many rich clients most of them are from Saudi Arabia, but who trust on you don't really care about what kind of price he have to pay. I sold some acounts for 5x-7x Profit, but RICH people do not care. They just want keep the accounts, and all re-sellers want to keep their customers, as toonvendor, KHA, jano, and ofc me. And every reseller can put the price you want, so this is not an argument to discuss.

If you buy from a re-seller, the price is definitely a little higher due to the fact that you are buying a security, you are making an investment.
All can be re-seller, but in the end only the best remain ....

I'm the partner of Beastmode as everyone know. And in this month we can't be really often online for real life problems, we have some clients to satisfy, but maybe my clients have a little more brains, Instead of opening a scam thread and ruin an image created over the years.

Ash · Jul 28, 2012

preach

harz0rz · Jul 28, 2012

Thats cute. 3/4th of the people criticizing me were prospective clients of mine that either didnt want to shell out dough on an account they wanted from me or needed a diaper change after i turned down one of their accounts. Adorable.

Edit - go back and look at all of my old posts. About half or more of the people i've argued with have beem banned for something. I may not be overly tolerant, but i have a good prediction of who is a scammer.

...and KHA criticizing me for selling an account for twice what I bought it for. You sell them for much more than that. Also, bashing me for supporting John then reporting him. Its called me getting stabbed in the back by a con artist. KHA, actually everything you say is ridiculous and stupid. You sell $400 accounts for $2000, and these poor idiots buy them and hit like on your posts like you did them a service lol.

The fact is you resellers act haughty and put up some image like you are balling. Im willing to bet i make more in a night of work than you do in a month of selling accounts.

kookajamo95 · Jul 28, 2012

If you think reselling is all a reseller does to put money in the bank you're pretty naive. How much does being a male nurse pay? I'd be pretty damn surprised if you make more in one night then KH does in a month selling accounts.

It's not who you argue with harzorz is the way you convey your arguments. You can't win arguments by starting them off with "Hey ****tards, you're all ****ing idiots and this is why." It just makes you look like an idiot. Like I said I don't know you, but the constant trash you spew in threads you shouldn't even be concerned with has been bothering me for 3 months so I just felt like saying something. I might be completely wrong about you as a person and you might be an amazing cool guy, you just don't show it by the way you post on these forums.

Ash · Jul 28, 2012

Nevermind, not worth it.

MaskedArmory · Jul 28, 2012

harz0rz said:
...and KHA criticizing me for selling an account for twice what I bought it for. You sell them for much more than that. Also, bashing me for supporting John then reporting him. Its called me getting stabbed in the back by a con artist. KHA, actually everything you say is ridiculous and stupid. You sell $400 accounts for $2000, and these poor idiots buy them and hit like on your posts like you did them a service lol.

The fact is you resellers act haughty and put up some image like you are balling. Im willing to bet i make more in a night of work than you do in a month of selling accounts.

Made my night

I am in this to offer a service and make money. If you think otherwise, you are even dumber than I thought you were. The great thing about what I do nowadays though, is that 99% of my business is referral based. See, when you treat people nicely and operate in such a fashion to make for smooth transactions in both a buying and selling manner, then people refer other people to you. I know that this may be a foreign concept to someone that is a narcissist though.

Also, as for how much I make per month, it would blow your mind to see how much I make from treating people nicely and not being a blistering idiot at every turn.

No wonder you have problems buying/selling accounts...lol...

harz0rz · Jul 29, 2012

I have a problem buying/selling accounts? I do it as a hobby and have easily sold at least 25% of the volume you have; without a website or ads. I don't even do it for money, i do it for fun.

I run a hospital lab, WoW is a h o b b y.

I do like argueing with you though, it gives me great joy.

MaskedArmory · Jul 29, 2012

25% of my volume? You cannot hold a candle to the kind of accounts that I carry. Enjoy those $100-200 profit margins!

It baffles me that someone trusts you in a hospital lab. Yet again, it does make sense. Keep the freaks in the lab locked away. Human interaction is not your forte and I am glad that I am not the only one that has figured that out.

harz0rz · Aug 1, 2012

I've sold scarab lord accounts for 1/5th the price you charge. Ripping people off doesn't make you some sort of baller. It makes you an ******* LOL

MaskedArmory · Aug 1, 2012

harz0rz said:
I've sold scarab lord accounts for 1/5th the price you charge. Ripping people off doesn't make you some sort of baller. It makes you an ******* LOL

There is a difference between knowing the market and just being stupid. It is not my fault that you do not know how to market your merchandise properly, therefore gimping your potential profit.

When you take a Marketing 101 class, then you can come back and pretend like you can compete with me

UnholySonata · Aug 1, 2012

harz0rz · Aug 3, 2012

LOL its called not ripping people off. Glad the 3 same lemmings keep "liking" your posts. It's cute, like puppy dogs or tapeworms.

Btw, nobody is "competing with you." Friggin dork

TheCrusher · Aug 5, 2012

harz0rz said:
LOL its called not ripping people off. Glad the 3 same lemmings keep "liking" your posts. It's cute, like puppy dogs or tapeworms.

Btw, nobody is "competing with you." Friggin dork

that

mmogold4u · Aug 5, 2012

Lord, I do not fit in with the whole verified argument and what not, but please grow up. You guy bicker like my sister and I did when we were in 2nd grade. Move on with your problems and make something out of yourself. Everyone is unique in their own ways and has their own ways of processing and doing things. Neither of you are better than one another, cockiness. You guys really do look like complete idiots the way you guys are bickering over the internet, this shows that life isn't really what it use to be. People will scam and do whatever their heart desires and you really cannot do **** about it. As for the marketing argument, if you're both making money why are you boasting about it? I really thought there were some immature people on this forum but it turns out there are some toddlers actually. As I stated, I am just pointing out that you both look pretty stupid arguing over a forum on the internet and shows how mature you guys really are. No, neither of you look ******. Harz, I'd like to say that really you need to open your eyes and look at reality you cocky son of a gun. You're the type of person who was spoiled when younger and had everything that was asked for. You're boasting your profits, in reality I bet if you weren't so cocky you would have younger look at you as a roll model, same goes for all of you who make nice profits on the internet. Bragging and being cocky really isn't cute or classy because you really do look stupid and you just look like you've always had the great side of life which some people who have got the lower end and built their way up to making money and doing things that is helping them succeed. You do this as a "hobby" I have to admit you really did give me my midnight giggles

Goodnight guys, I hope you get your $500 somehow.

ToonVendor · Aug 5, 2012

Hey everyone,

I needed to take emergency leave for the past month due to a real life emergency (not legal troubles). Despite what many of you think, my name change method does not involve any fake documentation whatsoever. Every thing is completely 100% legal and done through blizzard's customer support.

I apologize for leaving some of you (including Martin) in the dark the past few weeks that I've been dealing with this emergency. I'm back now and I'm here to help all of you with whatever needs to be done.

That being said, as far as name changes go, everyone will have the choice of either receiving a refund or scheduling a date for their name change to take place (should all the prep work already be done). If you choose to stick with me, you'll receive a $300 store credit for use on anything in the future (accounts or name changes).

I apologize again, all forms of contact have been cleaned up and are now, once again, open for contact. Please feel free to contact me to fix anything.

John

harz0rz · Aug 6, 2012

I really make very little money selling accounts. As I said, this isn't a way of making money at all for me. And yes, I am cocky. I'm educated, have a hot wife, and make ****loads of money. You would be too.

Ash · Aug 7, 2012

No one cares.

mpsyhk · Aug 7, 2012

Toonvendor, i have sent you a few emails. Still waiting for a response. Kindly reply when you get the chance, so we can clear everything up. Thanks.

FancyMMO · Aug 7, 2012

Can't we all just get along

UnholySonata · Aug 7, 2012

FancyMMO said:
Can't we all just get along

It's more fun when we don't

Ash · Aug 7, 2012

Harz0rz, you really don't get it. Not only are you just morally askew, you are wrongfully cocky and it's just embarrassing.
1) No one in the history of the world gives a poop about your financial situation on this site. There are many people who are much wealthier than you, there are people who are poorer than you, that's how it is. Also, how much do you define as a "*** ton of money", that one really made me laugh.
2) Education- You're educated, great. So are most people who resell accounts, and before you go on the warpath, I could give less of a f about your education, as well as your career path, that of a "lab owner", AKA Male Nurse.
3) Your hot wife- Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I'm assuming.

TL;DR

You're an idiot.

harz0rz · Aug 7, 2012

Ash said:
Harz0rz, you really don't get it. Not only are you just morally askew, you are wrongfully cocky and it's just embarrassing.
1) No one in the history of the world gives a poop about your financial situation on this site. There are many people who are much wealthier than you, there are people who are poorer than you, that's how it is. Also, how much do you define as a "*** ton of money", that one really made me laugh.
2) Education- You're educated, great. So are most people who resell accounts, and before you go on the warpath, I could give less of a f about your education, as well as your career path, that of a "lab owner", AKA Male Nurse.
3) Your hot wife- Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I'm assuming.

TL;DR

You're an idiot.

The post before this one you sais "who cares." Have bipolar disorder?

Ash · Aug 7, 2012

Please, for someone who is so educated, learn to spell.
b) Please resolve your scammer thread, you should probably figure that out soon-ish. Would be a shame if you were banned.

harz0rz · Aug 8, 2012

Yawn. You are as inspired as you are witty. At least kha is mildly amusing. You on the other hand make references to typos. You put the M in mundane

UnholySonata · Aug 8, 2012

kookajamo95 · Aug 8, 2012

harz0rz said:
I really make very little money selling accounts. As I said, this isn't a way of making money at all for me. And yes, I am cocky. I'm educated, have a hot wife, and make ****loads of money. You would be too.

So being a male nurse makes you **** loads of money? Get over yourself please. $15 an hour isn't **** loads of money.

The fact that you feel the need to lie about your real life and financial status on an online forum is pretty sad, I'd feel bad for you if you weren't a complete idiot.

Ash · Aug 8, 2012

harz0rz said:
Yawn. You are as inspired as you are witty. At least kha is mildly amusing. You on the other hand make references to typos. You put the M in mundane

I may put the M in mundane, but you put the D in dumbass.

Sky~ · Aug 8, 2012

-sigh-

All of you grow up.

Thread closed - off topic.

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