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GarryBron

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Dispute Against sstar3005
Information
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Purchase Date:

Oct 10, 2022​

Date the problem began:

Oct 23, 2022​

Method of Contact Used (chat program): discord and epicnpc
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Aldrich#8812 and TerroR#5669 sstar3005
Your Instant Messenger ID: EpicNPC GarryBron, Discord got hacked today


Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/whale-vip-17-370b-power-top-1-sv.2333165/#post-8633179
Approximate value of property: $2000 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? #65871 (The Integrity MM)

What is the dispute about?
The seller has banned the account or is trying to restore it

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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
First of all, im not dispute the account. The account still in your hand, i dont have any information to login and i dont take back that account. Admin can teamview my discord chat, he will know the whole story even when you delete all your message and block me. Dont forget that my message is still there. And you tell me that some random guys, go hack your discord, then delete your message you chat with me, and block me? What is the point?
 
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Are you all right? You couldn't write to me on the site? If my discord was hacked, it does not mean that someone deceived you. And what am I a scammer? You received money. Why did you take your account?
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Nah. Just wait until admin/middleman online. I can let him teamview my PC, the discord which i use to chat with you. He will know who is the liar
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Btw, please chat with the Afk Arena Supporter, ask her if i have the account or not. And send the proof here
 
I can also provide any details they require. Let them check. You received $2,000 and banned account/trying to get it back. I am ready to cooperate with the admin, either unban the account or return the money, any option will suit me
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
I will not talk to you anymore if you still want to lie. Wait until admin online, he will have the whole story
 
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I don’t mind, my discord was hacked, the correspondence should be from your side, let them read what you wrote about agreeing to 2000, what you wrote about a sick child, let them see the messages that we agreed on an additional payment due to your situation with the child, let them see the messages that we have agreed to transfer the balance of funds for November 10, because I will only be able to receive a salary in the next month, let them see all this, also let them see that the account has already been banned. I can give you back access to your account and you sell it for a different price, I did not add anything there, return what I paid you or unban account.
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
They will know about the deal in the first place. They will know about a "hacker" who hacked a discord, just to delete the chat and change discord name to "deleted user". What a joke. haha. Please no more respond until the admin is online :)
 
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My mail and accounts that were linked to it were stolen while I was at work, I didn't even know about it. How could the theft of my discord affect our deal? I transferred $2,000 to you, I had to transfer the rest on November 10, these messages were in our correspondence. If you know that the account in the discord has changed, then why didn't you write to me on the site? As soon as I found out about it, I told you on the website. If someone stole my discord, it does not mean that you were deceived. You have received the money and I would transfer the balance on November 10, as we agreed. You immediately banned the account, without any other questions. You could have written to me on the website, you could have written to me in the game when the account was not banned, you could have opened a dispute on this issue, I would have answered you as soon as I saw it. I'm not giving up on our deal, I've already given you 2000 and losing an account for $500 is very stupid.
 
If you are so honest and self-confident, then return the money to me, I will return the account, everything will be fair, you can sell the account more expensive, I will buy another one for myself. What is the problem? I am not a fraudster, I need my money back or the account I paid for. What is the problem? If you are not a scammer, then why are you not satisfied with such conditions? Why do you write that you don't care if you get banned here? I needed a fair deal and a good account to play, I'm disappointed that I lost my money and account because of the deal with you, initially you seemed like an honest person
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Answer me 1 thing only: who hacked a discord, just to login and delete the message you chat with me, change the discord name to “deleted user”, then block me? That hacker have no brain? And you tell me that the hacker hacked your email in the first place. So, he hack your email just to login in discord and do that stupid thing? What a joke.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Wait for admin. Im not reply your 0 logic reason anymore
 
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Read the private messages, I gave you an answer there. I'll repeat it here.
If I knew who was stealing the data, I would try to return it or report this person to the police! I do not know what happens to the account when it is stolen, I do not know what was done to the account and who was banned there. You are not alone in my discord, you are not the only person on this planet, check your self-esteem, there are many other work contacts in my discord that could also be blocked due to hacking, how do I know? if my account was stolen and I don't have access to it? I just didn't see it right away and couldn't even think that it would somehow affect you, because my discord doesn't affect our deal, and you can always write to me, you have my contacts.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Russian guy is original owner now i give all the information to him. I dont keep any information for my self. You can ask him if i take back any email/lilith mail i give him or not. Why it false advertisement when he already secure the account? Your middleman already checked all. This dispute thread is not about false advertisement
 
@sstar3005 you listed the account as the original owner in the thread. This is false advertisement an a 100% refund must be issued.
He already wrote me in private messages that it doesn’t matter to him whether he is banned here or not. He just got the money and that's the main thing for him.
I'm afraid it won't return anything. I don’t need a deal on such conditions, let him return the money, I’ll just buy myself another account, from a seller who will not block anything
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Okay admin already online, so i will explain the whole story @EpicNPC CM

1. Dealing process
- After I posted to sell my account at https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/whale-vip-17-370b-power-top-1-sv.2333165/, a discord name "Sandier" added me on my Discord (TerroR) on October 9 and said he wants to buy my account.

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- The price agreed by both parties is $ 2500, the middleman fee he will bear. The middleman fee is about 150$, so the total amount he has to spend on my account (including the middleman fee) is about 26xx $.

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- Since he doesn't have enough money in his account right now, he begged me to split the transaction in two.
- The first time is 2000$ (His account only has 2000$, so I will send the middleman fee first, then he will return the fee to me on the 2nd transaction)
- And the 2nd time will be 6xx$ ($500 he owes, and 1xx middleman fee I paid him in advance on the first transaction)
- He promised that after completing the first transaction, about 2-3 days later he would have money to complete the second transaction.

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-> I agree to that condition and I actively look for middleman on EpicNPC to start trading

2. First transaction
- Me and him started trading, middleman is The Integrity
- I am the middleman fee payer, the fee is $125, paid in bitcoin and confirmed by the epicnpc system
- I then sent the entire account information to The Integrity, he has fully checked the information and confirmed
- Since he (Garry) is in Russia, he said he can't directly transfer to my country, also can't pay by paypal. So I have to hire a money transfer service (temporarily called Mr. B)
- The payment process is: I send Mr.B's Russian bank account number to Garry. He transferred money there, 2000$ = 125,000RUB. After Mr.B confirms receipt of funds, I will confirm with middleman and middleman will send my Afk Arena account to Garry
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- Everything went without any problem. Mr.B received 125000 RUB. Garry got my Afk Arena account from The Integrity and changed all the information (middleman assisted him in changing). Me and him confirm the transaction is complete
-> Complete the first transaction

3. Second transaction
- He promised to make a second transaction in bitcoin or USDT, so that I would be able to receive the money directly not through Mr.B anymore.
- We completed the first transaction on 11/10. He promised to complete the second time 2-3 days later. Then he didn't answer me. On October 13, I texted him and he still didn't reply
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- After I texted him threateningly, he replied. He said he didn't have the money yet, promised me that he would pay it on November 10, I agree

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4. Scam process
- On October 23, Mr.B called me, saying that a banker had just called him. The banker said that another person (Garry) submitted an application to the bank and asked for a refund 125000 RUB
- Immediately I checked my discord (TerroR), found all the messages Garry sent me had been deleted, Garry's Discord had changed its name from Sandier to "deleted user" and unfriended my discord ( Terror), block me. (still get blocked 28 october)
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- I use another discord (Aldrich) to add to Garry's discord, he still accepts the friend request, and can still send him messages. He reads but doesn't reply (23 october)

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- I immediately informed The Integrity of the situation and received advice from him

5. Garry shows his stupidity
- I contacted Belinda (Afk arena customer support) asking to temporarily lock my Afk arena account
- After realizing his account was locked, Garry had to message me on epicnpc, asking why I locked the account. (Gary still keeps all the access information for the Afk Arena account, I don't have it, only he can access it)
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- Garry said it wasn't because he wanted to scam the rest of the money, but because his discord was stolen. He lost both the discord and the email attached to the discord. He uses discord for work.

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- He continued to lie that he only agreed to pay 2000, the rest was because he felt pity for me, so he agreed to add it, not from the beginning.

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6. Easy question to answer
- Why would someone call Mr.B's bank and ask for a refund of RUB 125000 -> Only Gary who know about Mr.B receive 125000 RUB
- Why would a hacker, hack a discord, just to login, delete Garry's messages with me, then change his name to "deleted discord" with a non-capital d, pretending that this discord account has been deleted -> No one is so stupid, doing things that don't make sense
- Why can I still friend him on another discord (Aldrich), can still message him on the 23rd, but the old discord (TerroR) doesn't -> He only blocks TerroR discord, and he still have access to the discord, the discord is not deleted
- Why does Garry always say he only agreed to 2000, the rest is because I texted that I need money for my kids (I sent this message on October 13, while the time I was texting him about the price of 2500 October 9 and October 10, before the first transaction was completed (October 11) -> He lied, please read the message in that date
- He admits that there is a 2nd transaction he hasn't completed, it's epicnpc chat -> proves my discord chat is not fake
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7.Conclusion
- Garry is trying to get the bank to refund the 125000 RUB he sent to Mr.B. And he tries to erase all the evidence, block me so he doesn't have to pay the remaining $625
- I'm the one who locked the account. But I didn't get my account back, Gary still has everything to access.
- I won't unlock my account until Gary pays me the remaining $625 and apologizes for trying to scam me.
- I don't care about getting banned on epicnpc or not. I only care that scammers like Gary get punished or i take the all the money i deserved
- I can let the admin access my computer remotely to prove that the chat existed before the transaction was completed, and prove that it is not fake
- I have completed a few transactions on epicnpc, the accounts are expensive, and neither need to use middleman, they all pay me before I deposit the account (I can send proof that they deposit first) ). After that, I received good feedback from customers. There's no reason for me to cheat $2000.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
The image of the entire chat between me and Gary has been attached, Admin please read it
 

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
You made such a huge post, but you either don’t understand something yourself, or you are trying to deceive the admin as well. Everything on the screenshots is correct. BUT I HAVE HACKED MY MAIL AND THE ACCOUNTS THAT WERE LINKED TO IT WERE ALSO STOLE. HOW COULD YOU THOUGHT I DECUSED YOU just because my discord account was stolen????
You immediately blocked the account, what did you base it on? On what grounds do you think I cheated you if we agreed on an extra payment for NOVEMBER 10, dude, NOVEMBER WILL BE ONLY, yes, before you pay you, NOVEMBER 10 MY EMPLOYER Must pay me. I didn’t even know that something happened to my discord, I went into the game and saw that the account was blocked. I went to the discord, my login data did not fit and I immediately wrote to you on the site. You immediately began to accuse me and call me names, you hysterical child. Why didn't you write to me on this site? Why didn't you write in the game? Why didn't you open a dispute here if you thought you were scammed? You and I AGREED and I have already paid you $2000, the remaining $500 is a trifle compared to what I have already paid you! Normal people do not block the account at the first opportunity, but try to ask what happened. You immediately blocked. Personally, I have only one thought. You received the money, now you have decided to block the account, later it will be returned to you, because. support has already written that the account is being disputed and the one who provides payment receipts will be returned to him. You decided to get my money and account? And then you say that I'm a fraud? Scammer because someone hacked into my discord or because I paid you money and you took my account? Note that at the moment you have received the money and banned the account. Everything is completely yours.
If you say you're honest, why can't you get my money back and I can get my account back? What's wrong? You sell it for more, I'll buy something else (I hope someone more honest).
Now you have not fulfilled any of the conditions of our deal, in fact, now you just cheated me out of $2,000.
By the way, mind you, you call me stupid, but I'm writing this to you for the third time, you just don't read or can't say something about it, because you're a scammer. Your only argument is that you were blocked in the discord that I had hacked. But how does discord affect our deal? You have ways to contact me, I often visit the site, you could write to me here, I would see it and answer you that everything is in force.
Get my money back or unlock my account, I don't care. But it’s better to return the money, I don’t want to constantly worry that you might not like something again at any moment and you will block it again. But for now, any outcome will suit me, because. there are events in the game, I need access to an account, or money to buy a new one.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
No one stupid enough to believe your “discord hacked” story. Who hacked a email, just to login a discord and delete some specific message? LoL. Why he only block my main discord, why he change the name to “deleted user”????? Please grow up atleast, have a brain. Or you get what you deserve. So stop pretending. As i said. Pay all, admit your stupid mistake and you get what you want. If not i dont care. What you take is my time. I dont have time to resell, and i dont want too. Not just my time, you let me in alot of trouble just because i was believe in you. Dont try to write to me anymore. I will let the admin decide. Read my 7. Conclusion and get lost
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
Btw, you have 2 days to chat with me on epicnpc and you didnt do it. Not until the supporter tell you you cannot unban. So again, dont think everybody is stupid as you. I already warn you, this is serious to me. Normally i dont bother and i will let you get away with it. But not now. Not this time. So get what you deserved. Or pay the rest, admit the mistake and say sorry like a man
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
More pretending please. Like i said. I dont care. You will get what you deserved. Even when i get banned in epicnpc. Just keep the banned afk arena account for yourself. I dont want it, you should look at it everyday. Next time think carefully before you try to scam anyone ok?
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
You can call me scammer if you want, i dont care too. Get what you deserve. You think im not lost anything? I can sell my acc for 3000$. But no, i trusted and sell it cheap price for a scammer. Who stupid who not, people all know after they read my chat and post. So yea, just sit at the “hacker who hacked a discord and delete message” reason and cry. This is my final reply to you. Get lost. I dont want to be affect by your stupidity
 
People respect and understand that you're a ****ing scammer. You stole money from me and you have the audacity to accuse me. You are very lucky that we live in different countries, otherwise we made a deal at a meeting in person and now we could meet, believe me, you would not talk like that and I would tell you in detail that you are a ****ing scammer
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-sstar3005.2348095/
? First im the original owner. Then when i sell the account to Gary he is the original owner. I dont keep any information for my self? He have all?
 
We are trying to unban the account, please do not do anything yet, perhaps the seller and I were in a hurry with the decision to blame each other. I will write in this chat what we ended up with
 
I transferred another 700 dollars to him so that he unbanned the account and now he is gone ... I don’t know what to think, a scammer or busy in real life
 
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