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He turned into a scammer while the site was down and scammed a lot of his customers.
He scammed me for $100 in bitcoins, admited that he did it and told it to rmik as well...
I'm not at home now and can't provide chats at this time, but rmik and others can confirm.

Also, please stop giving middleman badges to non-verified members. I knew it was a bad idea...
 
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Banned - banned on postcount - http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?151429-Lako-is-official-a-thief-(With-proof)
Going to have to show proof either way so it can be verified.
 
Actually Dane admitted all of this to me via skype, I have had him on skype for a long time. I ran his ip at the time and it was indeed him.
He was not banned yet as I just got up and sites actually working. And I was the only member he admitted this to.
I do not feel proof is needed but an excerpt of the chat is his excuse for scamming people.
[10/31/2015 4:16:40 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): tired of getting scammed for thousands of dollars cumilitavely
[10/31/2015 4:17:04 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): and we both know what someone desperate would do
[10/31/2015 4:17:31 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): it was never my intention but there was no way to recover that much in losses...
[10/31/2015 4:18:00 PM] George: what are you going to do?
[10/31/2015 4:18:08 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): what's done is already done
[10/31/2015 4:18:17 PM] George: which is
[10/31/2015 4:18:47 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): the same thing flwnster did
[10/31/2015 4:19:00 PM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): except it was around 3k

This was actually quite pathetic and sad.
scammers information:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Remarkabledragon/
[email protected]
dane7644
dane764
csgosmurfs.com
[email protected]
[email protected]


Leaving this open if mike has any questions or wants screenshots of all this
 
He scammed for more than 3000$ in total. I think Mike should reveal his personal data to the victim so they can report him to the police. This is no joke, this is a lot of money someone lost because of this kid who doesn't know how to run selling business.

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http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198055090142-csgo-counter-strike-global-offensive-items.115103/

http://i.imgur.com/xt9xfyd.png

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His full steam link http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055090142
 
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Well i tried to warn as many ppl i can when dane tried to scam me but it was a bit late. I wrote all epic members on my skype. Also talked with the guy who "had" dragonlore+fireserpent+m9 bayo he really want danes infos to report. the amount is huge enough to report i guess as rmik said this is no joke. I already help him to report dane on steamrep but dunno how its gona work. Hope Epic admin can help him...
 
We cannot legally give out ANY information with out a court order. I am sorry that would open the road for Dane to sue Epicnpc.
Dane is from canada and depending on the scammed peoples countries their options maybe extremely limited.
If the amount is serious enough they can contact the embassy for canada in their country. but if its just csgo inventory they will not do a thing to help you. If its legitimate money maybe they will.

Please do not add to this thread pushing for revealing of Danes information. If you have proof or some thing legitimate to add please do so.
 
doomedtofail said:
We cannot legally give out ANY information with out a court order. I am sorry that would open the road for Dane to sue Epicnpc.
Dane is from canada and depending on the scammed peoples countries their options maybe extremely limited.
If the amount is serious enough they can contact the embassy for canada in their country. but if its just csgo inventory they will not do a thing to help you. If its legitimate money maybe they will.

Please do not add to this thread pushing for revealing of Danes information. If you have proof or some thing legitimate to add please do so.
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What is a legitimate amount of money? I'm from the US and he scammed me of $400.
 
sirpeazes said:
What is a legitimate amount of money? I'm from the US and he scammed me of $400.
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I also dont get it. Why one person can do whatever he wants and the victim can't do anything about it. I understand it's a virtual item, but it has a value in cash as well, and we're not talking about 40-50$, its freaking 3000$. If I stole this amount from anyone in my country I would be burried alive the next day if they found me. And knowing how the US/Canada police works, I'm pretty sure they would care about this little kid that is still in school doing such things on the internet. Like at least reveal his phone number or something so that someone can contact his parents as he is still a teenager and his parents should be responsible for what their son does on the internet.
 
$400 if he was in the US And it was money like western union he could be prosecuted. Or civil lawsuit. International affairs are different. If you sent him $400.00 via western union maybe a diplomat to canada might pursue it for you.

But virtual items are not legal to sell and have no real world value. So if he scammed your items you wont get any assistance.


We cannot give out any information on him, simple as that.
 
btc cannot be chargedback, unfortunately, i doubt it is possible to get anything back from it :X doing a revenge scam just becoz he gt scammed is just childish.

[HIDE=99999999999]as a reminder to fellow mods, i understand the frustrations but pls do nt give out any personal details without prior approval. [/HIDE]
 
You can't reveal the info to the victims, but how about directly reporting him to the authorities? Or calling his parents at least?
But yes, the biggest problem here is that he stole only intangible items. :(
 
Banned - banned on postcount - http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?151429-Lako-is-official-a-thief-(With-proof)
I'm fairly certain if the transactions were with Paypal, you can contact their Fraud Investigation Team. This is one of the posts on Paypals site: https://www.paypal.com/?cmd=xpt/Help/popup/CrimeDoesntPay if you could potentially prove that fraud had occurred through paypal, you could potentially have something happened from it. As for BTC I'm not totally sure of anything with that as I have never dealt with it. But as others have stated, we cannot release personal information as it would be held against EpicNPC for releasing that information and it could be a huge backlash with it.
 
[HIDE=99999999]No-one is revealing anything. I just suggested that mike sends ID details of this ******* who JUST SCAMMED YET ANOTHER PERSON as I was typing this message. I honestly feel so bad for those who got scammed and that they can't do anything about it.[/HIDE]
 
We have no legal basis to contact the authorities. Also since its virtual items and not formal currency no one will listen. Hes id verified. I have no reason to believe hes under 18 and his parents will do no good. Also the phone number is his personal cell.

Hes banned here its not our fault they do not check
 
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We have no legal basis to contact the authorities. Also since its virtual items and not formal currency no one will listen. Hes id verified. I have no reason to believe hes under 18 and his parents will do no good. Also the phone number is his personal cell.

Hes banned here its not our fault they do not check
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Oh right, expect that site was offline for last week.

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$400 if he was in the US And it was money like western union he could be prosecuted. Or civil lawsuit. International affairs are different. If you sent him $400.00 via western union maybe a diplomat to canada might pursue it for you.

But virtual items are not legal to sell and have no real world value. So if he scammed your items you wont get any assistance.


We cannot give out any information on him, simple as that.
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I'm the guy who was scammed for over 1,5k$ in items. Admin of forum about trading items who's saying that virtual items are illegal to sell is something unbeliveble. Well, since you're protecting scammer - obligated by law or not, you're doing nothing to help - i'm going to forward this thread to SteamRep admins with suggestion to automark any middleman+ members of EpicNPC as potential scammers, since it's place where no one is protecting it's users OR protecting claims they've made (i.e. "he's middleman so we trust him") with anything more than "okey, we banned him, bye".

If selling virtual items is illegal, why you're moderator on forum based on it?


Also, to anyone who have any info, legaly obtained, about Dane764 - his Western Union data, Paypal data, email adress, anything that can reval who he is, where he is and what he is doing - let me know by private message.
 
Banned - banned on postcount - http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?151429-Lako-is-official-a-thief-(With-proof)
Lindeed, the issue is, we aren't protecting the Scammer. We are doing what we can legally to help. We aren't able to give personal information without a court order because it would get this site and anyone involved with giving person information in a lot of trouble. Simple as that. We understand that you are extremely upset about the situation and we honestly wish we could do more legally for you and the others that are victims in this. Unless there is a court order, we cannot give personal information like that out to anyone.
 
Id like to add he scammed everyone knowing site was down. I banned him soon as site was up. There was nothing we can do when site was down. I listed his personal email and paypal in earlier posts. NO SITE can give out any information about their users. At all. I am sorry you don't like the answer. I am not going to open site up to a lawsuit.

And selling virtual items is not legal, thats how it is. I am not saying its wrong, its what we do.
Go to your local police and they will not help you. And since its considered international they have no ability to help you. They will not intervene on paypal payments either unless they total more then whats considered min for grand theft. Western union they will pursue though since you need an id to recieve payment and all pickups are recorded on video.

Also no users are allowed to post his details on this site either. What they do through private channels like skype are not our concern. Any users posting contact information for him, this is the only warning
 
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Oh right, expect that site was offline for last week.



I'm the guy who was scammed for over 1,5k$ in items. Admin of forum about trading items who's saying that virtual items are illegal to sell is something unbeliveble. Well, since you're protecting scammer - obligated by law or not, you're doing nothing to help - i'm going to forward this thread to SteamRep admins with suggestion to automark any middleman+ members of EpicNPC as potential scammers, since it's place where no one is protecting it's users OR protecting claims they've made (i.e. "he's middleman so we trust him") with anything more than "okey, we banned him, bye".

If selling virtual items is illegal, why you're moderator on forum based on it?


Also, to anyone who have any info, legaly obtained, about Dane764 - his Western Union data, Paypal data, email adress, anything that can reval who he is, where he is and what he is doing - let me know by private message.
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As you can see on your steamrep report nobody gives a damn about your or mine or any other person's reports there. The site is dead and no longer considered as a very reputable site. Most of the people are now using CSGO cash rep or the former dota2 traders rep whenever they want to share their cash reputation. On steamrep they randomly choose reports and reply to them, the 90% of the reports are ignored. I got reports on steam rep when I was first scammed, it's been more than 2 years and I haven't got any reply even though all of the info was provided. And what you going to tell the SteamRep, mark all their admins as scammers on another forum? :) Don't make me laugh please. All they can do is to also ban the user on steamrep (which most of the people on steam don't even know how to check if the user has reports or not).

I'm with you on the sharing the data, but as you can see it's against the US Court Law and it would bring much trouble and probably a lawsuit to the owner of this forum if he shared that info and I understand why it's not happening.

If we lets say take a forum that looks like epicnpc but from Russia - getdota2.ru - Whenever someone is banned there, the admin posts every single info regarding the scammer. IP address, cell phone number, skypes, social network and payment info. This forum owner is different and he lives in another country which doesn't allow to disclose any private information about the users of this forum.

Why am I saying this? because different forums look at this differently. Like I said in my country if I requested this info from bank I could easily get whatever I want (legally or not, it wouldn't be an issue here). But in the US they have very strict rules and laws and everyone tries to go by them. So the reason you're not getting any "help" from the forum staff is basically before it's would be a violation and could bring some bad circumstances.
 
Okey, i've understand, you have law obligation and stuff. I didn't realize EpicNPC was based in USA, and i understand that admin want to protect himself, i would do the same on his place. HOWEVER i hope you understand my position here - i was scammed for ammount that in every country would be consider as "much". I'm not going to stop here and i will do anything i can do find him. I said about private messages because i don't want to put your users in trouble and set you in trouble position where you need to protect scammer data, because of the law.


Anyone who traded with him over Western Union - which has most data of people who're doing deal with them - please, let me know. We can make some safe-chat OTR if you don't feel protective enough and you're worried about courts and stuff. At this moment i have most of his data - Name, surname, address and phone number. I would like to verify if those data are right one, as well get anything else. HE IS underage, so even if i can't press charges from other side of the world i can let his school, friends and parents know about his behavior.


To admin/mod/whoever is in charge - i'd like to ask you, kindly, about posting any data that you CAN legaly post. ANYTHING can help.
 
I don't know, maybe you used VPN? If you are not his alt/buddy how did you know my skype, since only Dane and Elk knew it? Why you blocked me on skype? Why you send message SECONDS after i was scammed? So many questions...
 
Easy question:
1. WHERE you get my skype from?
2. Why you contact me RIGHT after i was scammed?

This is not question to all Canadians. It's question to you.
 
Banned - Working with Dane764 to scam
I saw your post and I added you and said I've sold stuff to him

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i can search up your name without any problems because your skype was on sr and your sr report was at 3pm and i messaged you at 8
 
How do you "meet' a random person in the cs:go game and decide to sell him one of the most expensive items in the game and him not even having anything saying anything like "buying cs:go items" in his steam name. and instead having "LearnSomeSkill". This is just really weird if you asked me, don't you think so, Random?
 
Banned - Working with Dane764 to scam
He introduced me to this site and he showed me his rep so I went first. He wasn't a scammer back then as well. I don't know why he would start scamming he had good reputation. He removed me on steam and blocked me on skype so I haven't talked with him since.
 
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And how did you even find that steamrep report? Even I didn't know it until I was messaged by all of the victims that he scammed. Are you on a 24 hours overwatch of dane's steam account? Don't say you just randomly happened to check steamrep and found the report of the same person that you met randomly in a cs:go and later sold him a dragonlore.


Not accusing you of anything, but these things just happen to be very weird and you don't get to see those every day.

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And you also happened to reply to my post only 6 minutes later. Are you also keeping an eye on this thread 24/7? :) No offense, like I said, it's just uncommon ;)
 
Banned - Working with Dane764 to scam
Well I was looking through my own steamrep friend list and I found that unconfirmed report on LearnSomeSkill I wanted to see what he did. Why can't I reply 6 min later we are having a convo.
 
He introduced me to this site and he showed me his rep so I went first. He wasn't a scammer back then as well. I don't know why he would start scamming he had good reputation. He removed me on steam and blocked me on skype so I haven't talked with him since.
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Didn't you just say he blocked and removed you from steam. correct me if I'm wrong but steamrep only shows steamaccounts of people on your friend list, not the ones you had on the list ;) You're going the wrong way sir ;)
 
Here is mine for example http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198131452959 . Dane actually removed me from and even if I wanted to check ALL MY FRIENDS' steamrep status I wouldn't be able to find dane's profile there. So I don't know by what miracle you managed to find that report shortly after Dane scammed the guy and you even added him on skype right after to tell him (what would it change though?) that you sold a dlore to dane and he didn't scam you.
 
well I would like to add you, dane and the third person (who he proved assisted him) are from the exact same part of canada. actually more like only a few miles apart. maybe you should stop posting in this thread and stop lying. its kind near impossible to meet someone in game and find out your neighbors. Random no more posts in this thread or you will be labeled an accomplice as you added the one user right after dane scammed him to "smooth things out".
 
The problem with the current system is that it`s so easy to become a middleman. Many of the current middleman does not have the financial backing to be a legit middleman.

In order to prevent the same problem in the future, EPICNPC must mandate that each middleman post a deposit to the forums. The amount has to be significant. I think $500-$1000 deposit to maintain a middleman status should be enough because most deals will not go higher than this amount. The deposit shall be returned when the middleman decide to retire its middleman status. The original requirement to become a middleman should stay there, but the deposit is also required if a person want to be a middleman on EPICNPC

If this rule is imposed, I will be the first one to pay the deposit and maintain my middleman status. We don't need random Joe to be middleman on this site, we need professionals like me to safeguard the integrity of EPICNPC
 
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$1000 for a deposit to maintain a MM status and admin will returned it if a MM will retire? Hmm thats a lot of money and nonsense, if a person decide to scam someone in the end & he can get back that money from big time scamming with profit already.

Anyway sorry for posting, Dane is wondering why the thread hasn't been closed yet cos his already banned. Here https://gyazo.com/67319886553f393f2caaf69d22f6355a
 
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I'm relatively certain Random is a friend of Dane/is dane.

Will be bringing this up in the private forum.

Edit: And we could give a **** what Dane wants/cares about in regards to this thread being opened.
 
At this point:
Dane, Elk and Random lives in same area of Canada (while Elk claiming he lives in Sweden, yet he has Canadian IP because "VPN, im scared of DDoS".
Random is Dane close buddy or him.
Elk was guy who set up scam on me("we can use middleman from EpicNPC"), and as well guy who probably has mine Dlore on some alt, as confirmed by diffrent sources that they were spliting loot 2/1. All Dane stuff was moved to diffrent account (won't post it here, Rmik can confirm i found it).
Dane is underage (15 at this point). I have almost all his data at this moment; Full name, full address, age, one of his school, his phone number (also confirmed). Don't have data on Elk and Random_Person yet, but it's matter of day or two. Won't post it here, i won't break the rules, but i invited OP of this post to skype. Anyone else who was scammed can also feel himself invited.



Within few hours i will have some updates.

Edit; damn with slow forum this post multiplied
 
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Banned - banned on postcount - http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?151429-Lako-is-official-a-thief-(With-proof)
Fairly certain Canada shares the same laws with us about Personal Information being given out. Users sharing his/their information with you, could really turn things into a huge mess for you.
 
Banned - banned on postcount - http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?151429-Lako-is-official-a-thief-(With-proof)
Lindeed said:
Doesn't really care, i doubt scammer will go to police and even if, will they start international investigation? Nope, they won't.
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the problem is, they wouldn't have to do it. You going to the police about it and them(dane) showing some kind of proof of you getting that information would be enough to cause an even bigger investigation and could be harmful to this site and any other parties involved with it that gave that information. I understand you are completely upset with this and you have every right to be this upset about it. But, there are laws that do protect a persons personal identity especially with US and Canada and it being illegally obtained which could start a firestorm for you in the long run.
 
Oh! We've misunderstood each other, and i apologize for that. You're completly right that if i go to police it can be bad for me. But i'm not getting this data to go to police. I want to get as much as i can on him (including screenshots of his scams, etc), and then forward it to his parents, to his school, to all his friends i can find, to his second school. I doubt he will hand stuff over, he's just mad 15yo guy, but his parents might be bit angry on him for that.

Hopefuly everything is clear now! :)
 
I have removed multiple feedback on random since its clearly because they are friends. Now random is more then likely involved due to his actions. Contacting the scammed member right after to smooth things out. How would he know what happened unless he was involved? Random has been banned
 
I can confirm the IPs on random_person and dane764 are from the same city

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/849483-Austin-Brown-Scammer
In this previous dispute thread Dane764 used Random_person's email for Paypal payment
[8/29/2015 1:55:25 AM] dane764 (csgosmurfs.com): [email protected]
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random_person and Dane764 are now considered scamming partners.


scammers info:
[email protected]
Random_person
randomperson546
dane764
[email protected]
skype:dane7644
csgosmurfs.com
[email protected]
STEAMIDLE.COM
[email protected]
elkisme
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198182684035

Normally I don't do this, but this is public info, so sorry Dane. Hope you end up in jail with your friend.
http://www.whois.com/whois/steamidle.com (public WHOis info for dane764, feel free to file police reports)

Domain Name: STEAMIDLE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1957875042_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.launchpad.com
Registrar URL: LaunchPad.com
Updated Date: 2015-11-06T02:27:12Z
Creation Date: 2015-09-06T15:00:22Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-09-06T15:00:22Z
Registrar: Launchpad, Inc. (HostGator)
Registrar IANA ID: 955
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Daniel Markos
Registrant Organization: Website
Registrant Street: 5 Wolf Run Court
Registrant City: Newmarket
Registrant State/Province: ON
Registrant Postal Code: L3Y 4W1
Registrant Country: CA
Registrant Phone: +1.6474689992
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Daniel Markos
Admin Organization: Website
Admin Street: 5 Wolf Run Court
Admin City: Newmarket
Admin State/Province: ON
Admin Postal Code: L3Y 4W1
Admin Country: CA
Admin Phone: +1.6474689992
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Daniel Markos
Tech Organization: Website
Tech Street: 5 Wolf Run Court
Tech City: Newmarket
Tech State/Province: ON
Tech Postal Code: L3Y 4W1
Tech Country: CA
Tech Phone: +1.6474689992
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: [email protected]
 
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Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
Good luck filing the police reports all victims now when his personal details are revealed.
Should make it alot more easy and there are so many victims so i'm pretty sure he end in jail.
 
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