calls me a scammer but we already resolved the case.

[mii.kura]

about 2 weeks ago i bought a genshin NA account from deltapcee on epicnpc. a few days later i decided to resell it since i wasnt interested in it anymore and sold it to epicnpc user miku1216. when i bought the account from deltapcee, i told the seller to bind my own email to it so i can make sure that the account is safe. i sent the money per friends and family since he had a perfect good rep and not a single bad feedback. you couldnt have guessed that he was indeed a scammer and miku1216 accused me of sloppy research, but there was nothing bad to find about this guy when i first bought it.

when i sold it to miku1216 i provided them with the username and the password of the account, i have unlinked my email of the account. the scam report claims that i still bound it to my email which isnt true. when i asked whether they changed the password and the email immediately after i gave them the account, they said yes. both claims from them are false in the end.

the seller i got the account from, got the account back with genshin customer support. when i bought the account i even asked for receipts about top ups but the guy stated that he only had the welkin one so i assumed that he wasnt the original owner and that he had the account for a while.

yesterday when miku1216 messaged me about the account, i immediately texted the guy i got the acc from and also checked his profile. turns out the guy was reported and scammed multiple people the same way.

i cant provide miku1216 with the money they gave me and i dont feel like i have to do it if i am completely innocent. i would, but due to personal reasons im unable to pay them anything of it back. they proceeded to ask me what my job was and where i lived and invaded my privacy. i understand this is unsettling but there are boundaries that shouldnt be crossed. we solved it out but they left the bad feedback on my profile since i am not able to pay them back.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@miku1216 notified

 

[miku1216]

You could have paid me back or verified the account was safe for owning it for a few weeks before selling it instead you hot potato-ed a account you bought for a questionable price to me and sold it for double what you paid for it which was $60 this account you then sell to me for $135 it is very clear this guy is a scammer and you did not do your research which is why you should take some responsibility in this case and since you refuse to do so your do deserve this feedback even if you feel you don't you should have done your research if you want to flip accounts for a living you can't expect customers to give you money only to get scammed I don't think you should be selling if what you are selling is not from a reliable source. If the mods don't think you should be the one to take full responsibility for your actions with selling this unsafe account I think you should get a neutral feedback still because you still have some fault in this and refuse to make it right for example if I were in your shoes I would have given at the very least a partial refund with the profit money you received then at least you be trying to remedy the situation instead I take the full loss which is simply not good business.

 

[mii.kura]

You could have paid me back or verified the account was safe for owning it for a few weeks before selling it instead you hot potato-ed a account you bought for a questionable price to me and sold it for double what you paid for it which was $60 this account you then sell to me for $135 it is very clear this guy is a scammer and you did not do your research which is why you should take some responsibility in this case and since you refuse to do so your do deserve this feedback even if you feel you don't you should have done your research if you want to flip accounts for a living you can't expect customers to give you money only to get scammed I don't think you should be selling if what you are selling is not from a reliable source. If the mods don't think you should be the one to take full responsibility for your actions with selling this unsafe account I think you should get a neutral feedback still because you still have some fault in this and refuse to make it right for example if I were in your shoes I would have given at the very least a partial refund with the profit money you received then at least you be trying to remedy the situation instead I take the full loss which is simply not good business.

like i said before, ive done research about this guy. 2 weeks ago he had a flawless rep with no negative reviews, sold accounts almost daily, of course i would trust him then. ive done what i could from my side but i find it unacceptable that you leave a false review on my account. you can leave a bad review saying that i wasnt able to pay you back or something but you cant lie about me being the scammer if it isnt the case. you can give negative feedback, thats what its there for, but dont spread lies about me. i tried my best from my side but ive done what i could. leave a bad review, but dont lie about me being a scammer. that is all i am asking for. im not putting the blame on you and i do take responsibility for the loss but you have to understand ive done what i could do.

 

[miku1216]

like i said before, ive done research about this guy. 2 weeks ago he had a flawless rep with no negative reviews, sold accounts almost daily, of course i would trust him then. ive done what i could from my side but i find it unacceptable that you leave a false review on my account. you can leave a bad review saying that i wasnt able to pay you back or something but you cant lie about me being the scammer if it isnt the case. you can give negative feedback, thats what its there for, but dont spread lies about me. i tried my best from my side but ive done what i could. leave a bad review, but dont lie about me being a scammer. that is all i am asking for. im not putting the blame on you and i do take responsibility for the loss but you have to understand ive done what i could do.

you cannot do the decent thing and send some kind of refund for your mistake from buying from a scammer thus you are also a scammer for not helping the situtaion in the slightest I like this thread to be closed I have no interest in pursuing this converstain unless you can offer compensation for the product you sold me that was defective my feedback stands I will let the mods decide how to handle the rest. It may as well as been a product that never arrived the seller usually refunds the buyer even if it was the mail system that lost it.

 

[mii.kura]

you cannot do the decent thing and send some kind of refund for your mistake from buying from a scammer thus you are also a scammer for not helping the situtaion in the slightest I like this thread to be closed I have no interest in pursuing this converstain unless you can offer compensation for the product you sold me that was defective my feedback stands I will let the mods decide how to handle the rest. It may as well as been a product that never arrived the seller usually refunds the buyer even if it was the mail system that lost it.

i tried my best and ive done everything i could, i rightfully sold the account to you and you bought it, i couldnt have known that the guy i bought it from was a scammer. i had nothing to do with what the guy was doing in the end, you clearly lied about me scamming you AND the account beingn binded to an email since i have proof of you saying that you changed the password and attached an email to it right after i gave you the login info. you are spreading false accusations, that doesnt make you any better. i was as transparent as possible about the situation but you are so persistent on putting the blame on me, i hope the mods will decide what is the right thing to do here in this case.

 

[miku1216]

i tried my best and ive done everything i could, i rightfully sold the account to you and you bought it, i couldnt have known that the guy i bought it from was a scammer. i had nothing to do with what the guy was doing in the end, you clearly lied about me scamming you AND the account beingn binded to an email since i have proof of you saying that you changed the password and attached an email to it right after i gave you the login info. you are spreading false accusations, that doesnt make you any better. i was as transparent as possible about the situation but you are so persistent on putting the blame on me, i hope the mods will decide what is the right thing to do here in this case.

Once again I have nothing to say here my feedback stands you cannot offer a refund for a defective product I have no interest in pursuing this conversation once again if I were in your shoes I would have given at the very least a partial refund with the profit money you received then at least you be trying to remedy the situation instead I take the full loss which is simply not good business. let the mods decide if they want you selling on here when you cannot take responsiblity for when a deal goes wrong with the orignal owner I am sure they want someone on here who cannot take a PARTIAL loss and support the buyer in some kind of refund please stop replying

 

[EpicNPC CM]

How long after sale was the account recalled?

Have you contacted the original owner? @mii.kura

 

[mii.kura]

How long after sale was the account recalled?

Have you contacted the original owner? @mii.kura

i bought the account from the original owner on 03/18/21 and sold it to miku1216 on 03/21/21 (3 days after). the owner took the account back approximately yesterday, thats when the problem occured. i contacted the original owner right after i received the message from miku1216 but no reply.

 

[mii.kura]

i bought the account from the original owner on 03/18/21 and sold it to miku1216 on 03/21/21 (3 days after). the owner took the account back approximately yesterday, thats when the problem occured. i contacted the original owner right after i received the message from miku1216 but no reply.

they retrieved the account 10 days after i already sold it to miku1216.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Who did you purchase this account from? Do they have an account on our site? @ mii.kura

 

[mii.kura]

Who did you purchase this account from? Do they have an account on our site? @ mii.kura

@DeltApCee but already reported for several similar scammer cases and very recently banned too.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Did you pay them via paypal?

 

[mii.kura]

Did you pay them via paypal?

via paypal fnf

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Open a dispute against them and try to get your money back.

Unfortunately you will have to refund @miku1216 as it's your responsibility when you sell accounts, even if the original owner recalls.

If the OO wasn't banned, we would be contacting them and telling them to refund you after you refund Miku, but they're already banned, so do everything you can to get your money back and please refund Miku.

 

[mii.kura]

Open a dispute against them and try to get your money back.

Unfortunately you will have to refund @miku1216 as it's your responsibility when you sell accounts, even if the original owner recalls.

If the OO wasn't banned, we would be contacting them and telling them to refund you after you refund Miku, but they're already banned, so do everything you can to get your money back and please refund Miku.

i will try my best in that case, but i would ask miku1216 to change the feedback into something that isnt a complete lie. that was the point of the whole dispute, since i was already trying to get the money back before i reported.

since i sold the account to miku, the account was under their ownership. i also wasnt the one who took it back therefore i think i am not responsible for their loss. once they bought an account from me its on them to what happens to the account. i was willing to cooperate with them and try and see what i can do to refund the money but they invaded my own personal privacy and i provided more information about myself than i wanted to. if they werent extremely rude i wouldve been willing to do everything i could to pay them back but simply leaving false bad feedback and making me look like a scammer even though i am clearly innocent with PROOF that they lied too?? this dispute wasnt about the money, i am still trying to get it back somehow, this was about the false feedback given to me.

if the feedback wont be changeable because apparently i am “a scammer” i am not willing to cooperate anymore. i dont mind bad feedback but i do mind false bad feedback.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Once the money is refunded the feedback will be changed to neutral as we don't remove negatives, and it will be labeled 'Resolved"