Date that scamming took place: Oct 3rd 2011
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: caffeen2011
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected] (AIM)
MMOBay Account of Scammer: caffeen2011
Other information: He seemed like a legit guy
What was scammed? Cash, He gave me 6 keys for $350, and i've sold one of the keys and the buyer(Foolmeonce) is telling me that the key was removed because payment was denied and his accoutn was reverted to trial again, so basically caf used a stolen card or something similar, and tried to sell it before anyone could tell him. ( I still havent tried the other keys because i bought it to resell, but i believe they arent working / they will stop working once i register them )
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-item...dk-sets-$67-best-price-around-guaranteed.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $350
Was a middleman used? No
Describe how you were scammed: I bought one key, i sold it to another member on these forums, and he said it worked, so i trusted caff and bought 5 more to resell, my buyer tells me that his account was changed back to trial today and the keys were removed.
Chat Logs:
how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? more then 15
Note: i don't know whats going on with caff, but i find it hard to believe he's a scammer, but just incase he is, i submitted this thread, just like i said i would.
I deleted the pics in the IM logs where it reveals the keys, and i put "XXXXX" just to hide some parts of the keys so people don't get access to them, if a mod would like to see the pics / full keys feel free to pm me or add me on AIM. I also bought a time card from him, but so far no issues with the time card yet.
I also deleted some msgs in the chat logs that werent relavent because my word limit for this thread was up.
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: caffeen2011
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected] (AIM)
MMOBay Account of Scammer: caffeen2011
Other information: He seemed like a legit guy
What was scammed? Cash, He gave me 6 keys for $350, and i've sold one of the keys and the buyer(Foolmeonce) is telling me that the key was removed because payment was denied and his accoutn was reverted to trial again, so basically caf used a stolen card or something similar, and tried to sell it before anyone could tell him. ( I still havent tried the other keys because i bought it to resell, but i believe they arent working / they will stop working once i register them )
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-item...dk-sets-$67-best-price-around-guaranteed.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $350
Was a middleman used? No
Describe how you were scammed: I bought one key, i sold it to another member on these forums, and he said it worked, so i trusted caff and bought 5 more to resell, my buyer tells me that his account was changed back to trial today and the keys were removed.
Chat Logs:
| Saturday, October 01, 2011 | |
| Durak Durak (12:35:18 PM): | hey |
| caffeen none (12:57:06 PM): | yo |
| Durak Durak (12:57:28 PM): | hey bro |
| caffeen none (1:00:35 PM): | post first |
| Durak Durak (1:00:41 PM): | sure thing bud, 1 sec |
| Durak Durak (1:01:01 PM): | done |
| Durak Durak (1:07:34 PM): | If you sell the set to me for 70 ill take it |
| caffeen none (1:07:44 PM): | I can do that one moment |
| caffeen none (1:08:39 PM): | Paypal work? |
| Durak Durak (1:08:56 PM): | yep |
| caffeen none (1:09:04 PM): | Okay one sec grabbin keys |
| caffeen none (1:14:17 PM): | bchest |
| caffeen none (1:14:17 PM): | 248EPGE7PBVKG7MEVK4HBXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:14:24 PM): | wotlk |
| caffeen none (1:14:25 PM): | K28JVCPXT68CFBFMJ9PX2XXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:14:29 PM): | cata |
| caffeen none (1:14:30 PM): | 7EPCVGCVW9MBC69XCEMY8XXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:14:39 PM): | [email protected] is my PP |
| Durak Durak (1:14:43 PM): | kay 1 secc |
| caffeen none (1:15:41 PM): | send as a gift |
| Durak Durak (1:16:08 PM): | I already sent it as goods, and im not gunna use the keys instantly so i need some protection |
| Durak Durak (1:16:21 PM): | let me know if you got it |
| caffeen none (1:17:00 PM): | its gift or I'll just use the keys myself |
| Durak Durak (1:17:07 PM): | i already sent it as goods. |
| caffeen none (1:17:12 PM): | ill refund |
| Durak Durak (1:17:14 PM): | k |
| caffeen none (1:17:40 PM): | pro seller cost me as much as the keys, not worth me running off with |
| caffeen none (1:17:56 PM): | and I've had enough trouble with paypal when people send money as goods and hten they lock me down for no tracking info |
| caffeen none (1:18:16 PM): | Not to mention your address isn't even confirmed x.x |
| caffeen none (1:18:51 PM): | I've done 3 and 4 figure transactions too. It's not necesarrily you I'm not trusting, it's paypals bull**** limitations department |
| caffeen none (1:18:58 PM): | Your refund has been sent. An email with refund details has also been sent to the recipient. |
| caffeen none (1:19:33 PM): | I mean I have no problem using them myself if you want to try another seller |
| Durak Durak (1:20:08 PM): | yep use them your self, ill let you know if i ever want to buy them sending as gift, you should be able to sell them though, they're the best prices i've seen for a set |
| caffeen none (1:20:17 PM): | Alright |
| Durak Durak (1:21:08 PM): | with the paypal transactions, did the scammers end up winning? when they selected as goods and lied about it not being virtual goods |
| caffeen none (1:21:20 PM): | They didn't open claims. |
| caffeen none (1:21:31 PM): | Paypal just randomly limits me for having a high number of "unshipped" transactions |
| caffeen none (1:21:34 PM): | It's policy |
| caffeen none (1:22:10 PM): | Keys are good, no doubt about that, just sold a few. |
| caffeen none (1:22:54 PM): | yeah switch bought some from me a long time ago |
| caffeen none (1:22:58 PM): | to resell i think lol |
| Durak Durak (1:23:00 PM): | lol |
| Durak Durak (1:23:01 PM): |  |
| Durak Durak (1:23:57 PM): | kay **** it, ill send as gift, just don't screw me over |
| Durak Durak (1:24:07 PM): | do you need to give me new keys? |
| caffeen none (1:24:28 PM): | those keys are still valid |
| Durak Durak (1:24:51 PM): | k is there any way i could check or do i have to take your word for it? without activating |
| caffeen none (1:25:09 PM): | would have to activate, OR i do have one diea might work |
| caffeen none (1:25:15 PM): | try to use cata on a vanilla account or something |
| caffeen none (1:25:22 PM): | my guess is it would give you an error saying you need WoTLK |
| Durak Durak (1:25:34 PM): | ah ok, ill send, whats your paypal again? |
| caffeen none (1:25:40 PM): | [email protected] |
| caffeen none (1:25:46 PM): | you can check my feedback - some pos on there from keys now |
| Durak Durak (1:29:44 PM): | and after this, itd be awesome if we could trade feedback, and if you could mention that you went first xD |
| caffeen none (1:29:49 PM): | yeah for sure |
| caffeen none (1:33:35 PM): | cool - feedback time |
| Durak Durak (1:33:40 PM): | yep |
| caffeen none (1:34:48 PM): | gah im capped on feedback for the day so I'll shoot one first thing when it resets |
| Durak Durak (1:34:56 PM): | alright sure thing |
| Durak Durak (1:54:03 PM): | hey you still there? =-O |
| Durak Durak (1:59:46 PM): | tell me when you get back |
| caffeen none (2:02:32 PM): | sup |
| Durak Durak (2:03:31 PM): | would it be possible if i could get a refund for the set, i think im just gunna use my existing account and get cata for it, itd be awesome if you can, its fine if you cant. |
| caffeen none (2:04:06 PM): | already pulled funds to bank x.x - if i sell these last few sets and someone wants one ill send em ur way |
| Durak Durak (2:04:20 PM): | alright thanks |
| Durak Durak (2:04:24 PM): | how many do you have left? |
| caffeen none (2:04:30 PM): | which at $70 im sure, sold 3 , 7 left |
| caffeen none (2:06:23 PM): | http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-items-gold-keys-trading-auctions-buy-sell/436298-cdk-sets-75-a.html |
| caffeen none (2:06:26 PM): | bump it up and theyll go faster |
| Durak Durak (2:06:40 PM): | k |
| Durak Durak (5:22:56 PM): | can you add the rep yet or you have to wait till tommorow? |
| Durak Durak (5:23:22 PM): | wow price is reduced to 67? lol no fair! haha |
| Sunday, October 02, 2011 | |
| Durak Durak (2:00:13 AM): | an update |
| Durak Durak (2:00:17 AM): | the time card worked |
| Durak Durak (2:00:22 AM): | and the cata set keys worked too |
| Durak Durak (2:00:23 AM): | sold both |
| Durak Durak (2:00:28 AM): | thanks so much, i <3 you, you |
| Durak Durak (2:00:54 AM): | i might buy more keys soon, and if you could leave the feedback when you can thatd be awesome. |
| caffeen none (10:22:56 AM): | Nice nice - thx man and sure |
| Durak Durak (12:58:53 PM): | are you there? |
| caffeen none (12:59:02 PM): | yeah |
| Durak Durak (12:59:11 PM): | did you sell all yoru keys yet/ |
| caffeen none (1:01:02 PM): | 5 left currently |
| Durak Durak (1:02:11 PM): | If i buy them all would you sell for 55 each? |
| caffeen none (1:03:05 PM): | 56 e and i can do it |
| Durak Durak (1:03:34 PM): | k deal 56, are you sure all the codes work? |
| caffeen none (1:03:40 PM): | 100% sure |
| Durak Durak (1:04:15 PM): | k gimmeh codes and leave paypal, itd be 280 total |
| caffeen none (1:04:37 PM): | you want me to go first? |
| Durak Durak (1:04:42 PM): | yea you did last time right |
| caffeen none (1:04:49 PM): | whats ur feedback at |
| Durak Durak (1:04:52 PM): | 9 |
| Durak Durak (1:04:56 PM): | it should be 10 with yours |
| caffeen none (1:04:59 PM): | +7 for me right now |
| caffeen none (1:05:02 PM): | plus pro |
| caffeen none (1:05:06 PM): | we'll do 1 at a time |
| Durak Durak (1:05:23 PM): | i don't want mulitple transactions, ill just og first, whats your paypal |
| caffeen none (1:05:35 PM): | [email protected] |
| caffeen none (1:05:42 PM): | gift as always |
| Durak Durak (1:05:45 PM): | mhm |
| Durak Durak (1:07:05 PM): | hmm how come you still havent left rep x.d |
| caffeen none (1:07:29 PM): | ive been up like 20 min lol |
| caffeen none (1:07:47 PM): | doing no |
| Durak Durak (1:07:51 PM): | k thanks |
| Durak Durak (1:08:31 PM): | sent. |
| caffeen none (1:08:34 PM): | checking |
| caffeen none (1:09:07 PM): | going to send you a .txt if thats ok |
| Durak Durak (1:09:12 PM): | mhm k |
| caffeen none (1:11:40 PM): | File shared |
| caffeen none (1:11:44 PM): | hmm upload failed wtf |
| caffeen none (1:11:52 PM): | sec |
| Durak Durak (1:11:58 PM): | could you just say them here? just for future references |
| caffeen none (1:11:58 PM): | did it let u download that? |
| caffeen none (1:12:13 PM): | these are battlechests |
| Durak Durak (1:12:17 PM): | yep it let me |
| caffeen none (1:12:18 PM): | N9PBMHBXXGPD98EJZVHMKXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:12:21 PM): | XRZDVPYZ4NV2WB8ZGHF6EXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:12:25 PM): | T86TYYDCVGJNRJ9ZX4YBKXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:12:28 PM): | 2PE7WWCCRCTTRXYD7N4HCXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:12:30 PM): | DVHDBVYZYRT8Y2GZMXYW7XXXXX |
| Durak Durak (1:12:32 PM): | k |
| caffeen none (1:12:38 PM): | getting the wotlks compiled now |
| caffeen none (1:15:19 PM): | RMWH76FPGTHTXBXP6WEDEXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:18:39 PM): | sec just gathering em all here |
| Durak Durak (1:18:43 PM): | yep no worries |
| caffeen none (1:24:55 PM): | cataPV9297BGKETC8P8C7C48RXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:25:01 PM): | getting other 4 wotlk and cata right now |
| caffeen none (1:25:07 PM): | buried in my email lol] |
| caffeen none (1:30:34 PM): | World of Warcraft®: Cataclysm™2B26PCR4WCJWVMMKCBZCYXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:30:45 PM): | H4TNDTBNHGYEVFE4HJ8Y8XXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:30:50 PM): | JM9HP8MH8PWFM7MJPW79TXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:30:54 PM): | PRZ9YP8NXTD7RR4PEZC7WXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:31:00 PM): | World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich King®22JXVNXCEB28ZFEKDMTGTXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:31:05 PM): | 6RTR2PJ7T7BJDJVMGK9JMXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:31:09 PM): | 8WF9D6VT8FEG8TNPKWEVMXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:31:13 PM): | D4KK24RTGCFH7FTZNKNZXXXXX |
| caffeen none (1:31:59 PM): | File shared: ( he gave me a link to the codes ) |
| caffeen none (1:32:03 PM): | u get |
| Durak Durak (1:54:49 PM): | hey you there? |
| caffeen none (2:20:36 PM): | sup |
| Durak Durak (2:21:01 PM): | can you still edit your post? in your thread |
| caffeen none (2:22:00 PM): | not sure - not home atm |
| Durak Durak (2:22:04 PM): | alright |
| Monday, October 03, 2011 | |
| Durak Durak (2:50:43 PM): | i need you to get back to me. |
| Durak Durak (2:53:53 PM): | can't believe you scammed me, trusted you |
| Durak Durak (2:58:34 PM): | my family isn't rich, you have no idea whats gunna happen to me if i just lost 280 dollars to you, please respond as soon as you can.. i still trust you to do the right thing |
| Durak Durak (3:00:50 PM): | Ill wait till 5:30, before i call my cc company and do a chargeback |
| caffeen none (3:04:22 PM): | how did I scam u |
| Durak Durak (3:04:25 PM): | the keys |
| Durak Durak (3:04:27 PM): | you gave |
| Durak Durak (3:04:28 PM): | to everyone |
| Durak Durak (3:04:37 PM): | they got declined cause of a stolen card or something |
| caffeen none (3:04:45 PM): | send me screenshot |
| Durak Durak (3:05:22 PM): | asking my client to, ill give you one once he comes back, look at awesome guys post http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-items-gold-keys-trading-auctions-buy-sell/436370-wts-wow-cd-keys-vanilla-bc-wotlk-cata-cheap.html |
| caffeen none (3:05:47 PM): | that's not proof tho |
| Durak Durak (3:05:52 PM): | ill contact blizz and get a screenshot |
| caffeen none (3:06:24 PM): | alright |
| Durak Durak (3:09:42 PM): | should get a response within 5 mins just stay with me here |
| Durak Durak (3:19:13 PM): | hey u there? |
| Durak Durak (3:19:54 PM): | already went afk ? <,< |
| Durak Durak (3:21:11 PM): | get back to me please i got the proof you wanted |
| Durak Durak (3:24:44 PM): | blah.. >.> |
| caffeen none (3:25:06 PM): | yah im on the phone dude |
| caffeen none (3:28:27 PM): | i didnt give you those keys.. im looking at the txt file right now |
| Durak Durak (3:28:44 PM): | the ifrst ones |
| Durak Durak (3:28:47 PM): | the very first one |
| Durak Durak (3:28:54 PM): | the ones i bought for 70 dollars |
| caffeen none (3:28:58 PM): | checking |
| Durak Durak (3:30:45 PM): | Greetings, Yes, the keys were removed and invalidated because the payment was declined & we never recieved the funds for thier purchase. this removal effectively destryoed the keys, they can no longer be used to activate or upgrade a game. This makes perfect sense if you think about it. When the charges declined, that means Blizzard never got paid for those games. If we didnt disable them it would be the same as giving them away free. Which we really cant do and stay in business. If you have any follow up questions or new questions please feel free to call back in or open a new support ticket at https://us.battle.net/support/en Regards, Blizzard Entertainment |
| Durak Durak (3:30:47 PM): | just got that as well |
| Durak Durak (3:32:10 PM): | caffeen none (1:09:04 PM):Okay one sec grabbin keyscaffeen none (1:14:17 PM):bchestcaffeen none (1:14:17 PM):248EPGE7PBVKG7MEVK4HBXXXXXcaffeen none (1:14:24 PM):wotlkcaffeen none (1:14:25 PM):K28JVCPXT68CFBFMJ9PX2XXXXXcaffeen none (1:14:29 PM):catacaffeen none (1:14:30 PM):7EPCVGCVW9MBC69XCEMY8XXXXX |
| Durak Durak (3:34:12 PM): | u still talking on the phone? idk whats going on |
| caffeen none (3:36:04 PM): | ya on phone atm |
| Durak Durak (3:36:38 PM): | with blizzard? you're gunna help me resolve this right and not disappear or something? i really can't lose 280 dollars and get scammed yet again. |
| Durak Durak (3:44:34 PM): | bump? :s |
| Durak Durak (3:49:18 PM): | bro respond!! Im getting worried |
| Durak Durak (3:52:58 PM): | caffeen.. can you give me an update or something? |
| Durak Durak (4:00:40 PM): | its been an hour since i asked you for help, and idk if you got screwed, or if im getting screwed here right now, but i need you to answer me, are you talking with blizz? |
| caffeen none (4:03:31 PM): | Yeah I'll figure it out - im eating dinner right now man and still on phone |
| Durak Durak (4:03:58 PM): | thanks, i'm begging you don't scam me |
| caffeen none (4:04:01 PM): | so what did blizzard do? |
| Durak Durak (4:04:09 PM): | they took away the cards |
| Durak Durak (4:04:16 PM): | i mean the one registered |
| caffeen none (4:04:25 PM): | so what happened exactly |
| caffeen none (4:04:31 PM): | it removed the keys or locked them |
| caffeen none (4:04:32 PM): | or what |
| Durak Durak (4:04:53 PM): | they removed the keys and made the acc trial again |
| caffeen none (4:05:05 PM): | okay so u just have to give the guy new keys |
| Durak Durak (4:05:09 PM): | yep |
| caffeen none (4:05:09 PM): | anyone else have that issue |
| Durak Durak (4:05:22 PM): | yes from what i know, damnwall he bought the keys directly from you |
| Durak Durak (4:05:33 PM): | I still havent sold my other keys though, but im guessing once they get registered they'll be removed |
| caffeen none (4:09:50 PM): | haven't had any contact from him about a problem |
| Durak Durak (4:10:17 PM): | yea i don't know, but he bought it from you so im not worried about him right this instant |
| Durak Durak (4:10:26 PM): | im worried about the key i sold to the other guy, and the 5 keys i bought from you after |
| Durak Durak (4:22:56 PM): | caffeenn one moment you're responsive the next you're afk, i understand you're eating, but im kinda getting worried here |
| caffeen none (4:29:22 PM): | im calling blizz now |
| Durak Durak (4:51:10 PM): | any thing yet? |
| caffeen none (4:52:36 PM): | hold atm |
| Durak Durak (5:12:11 PM): | When an account is upgraded the way your's was, on good faith we provide the codes to upgrade. The other option would be to make player's wait 2-3 days for the transaction to go through before being able to upgrade. With your situation, the order was declined so the product was taken back. I'm not seeing the order on your account, so if you want to look into that further I would suggest contacting the person that provided you with the keys. If you need any further help, just respond to this ticket. Thanks! -Mark F. Account and Technical Services |
| Durak Durak (5:16:28 PM): | I provided all the proof you needed, so idk whats taking this long for you to help me out here. |
| caffeen none (5:21:14 PM): | They said the originating order didn't process properly and they were fixing it |
| Durak Durak (5:21:31 PM): | so everythings gunna be alright? |
| caffeen none (5:21:36 PM): | yeah |
| caffeen none (5:22:52 PM): | they said ill get an email in the next hr |
| Durak Durak (5:31:51 PM): | j/w in 1 hour are all the keys gunne be fixed or just that 1? |
| caffeen none (5:37:03 PM): | they said theyd email me in an hr |
| caffeen none (5:37:05 PM): | thats all I know |
| Durak Durak (6:21:15 PM): | did you get email yet? |
| Durak Durak (6:30:04 PM): | the day is almost over, and i've done nothing productive today because of this, could we just finish this? instead of stalling. |
| Durak Durak (6:35:59 PM): | caffeen can you please answer |
| caffeen none (6:41:21 PM): | im checkin |
| Durak Durak (6:46:39 PM): | anything? |
| Durak Durak (6:49:29 PM): | you can't still be eating, you're done with the phone, i don't understand whats taking you so long, when i respond right after you msg me |
| Durak Durak (7:04:47 PM): | still waiting on a response, i expected better "customer service" since i took them all of your hands |
how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? more then 15
Note: i don't know whats going on with caff, but i find it hard to believe he's a scammer, but just incase he is, i submitted this thread, just like i said i would.
I deleted the pics in the IM logs where it reveals the keys, and i put "XXXXX" just to hide some parts of the keys so people don't get access to them, if a mod would like to see the pics / full keys feel free to pm me or add me on AIM. I also bought a time card from him, but so far no issues with the time card yet.
I also deleted some msgs in the chat logs that werent relavent because my word limit for this thread was up.
