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Exenztrix

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Trade Guardian Orders: 149

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<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="color: #00CCCC">Sorry for not posting with the scammer format, but most of it doesnt apply. Basically, this guy wanted to trade his toon in for a PL. He told me he met all my requirements and then ended up lying to me about everything. No need to ban this guy since he already has a neg and I'm sure no one stupid enough would trade with this guy.

1. He told me he was the OO and he wasnt.
2. Told me he was using his "son's" email.....right...
3. TW Post shows he is in IA when the address he gave me was DC
4. Gave me a cell phone when I asked for a landline

Attempted scam IMO....lol, yes lets try to scam a repped member on MD when I have been trading accounts for a living and think I'm stupid enough to fall for this.

AIM logs below:</span></span></span>

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I would have to disagree....

Last time something like this happened I posted it in the scammer section and again a mod moved it to here. The guy I posted about ended up scamming about 3-4 people BECAUSE people never saw his name in the scammer thread section.
 
Yeah, I have to agree with Alexandra.

There are more guides and stickies than I can count that warn people to search for people's information on MD and on Google, had those people that scammed did some background checking on the people they where doing business with they would have seen your thread and not got ripped off.

People have to take responsibility for who they choose to do business with online, and read the guides and stickies about safe buying, selling, or trading and follow the advice given if they don't want to get scammed.
 
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First off i never scammed nor was i trying to

used my sons email
and i jsut recently moved to DC for business

this person wouldnt take time to listen to my reasons i had a different email and address, she just jumped to the conclusion i was scamming. to me there is no point in having a land line when family has cell phones, many people dont own a land line now-a-days.

we didnt even trade or anything
the negative feedback she left was very unproffesional

please close or remove this thread because there is no proof i scammed, which i didnt. She just jumped to the conclusion.
 
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Lol....

Read your own logs. You admitted to lying.

So, no, I didn't jump to any conclusions. I CAME to the conclusion that you were lying to me, and you were.

Also, the address on the account was in DC and now you are saying you moved there for business?? Yet in the chat logs you admitted to not being the OO? You are just full of lies.
 
ok im a lier
not a scammer

just cause im not OO doesnt make me a scammer
even if i said im OO im not a scammer

ud be getting a legit account that no one would touch
but anyways doesnt matter ive already traded the account
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RandomGamers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok im a lier
not a scammer

just cause im not OO doesnt make me a scammer
even if i said im OO im not a scammer

ud be getting a legit account that no one would touch
but anyways doesnt matter ive already traded the account</div></div>


scammer
One entry found.


Main Entry:
2scam
Function:
transitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
scammed; scam·ming
Date:
1963

1 : deceive , defraud 2 : to obtain (as money) by a scam
— scam·mer noun

Deceiving or defrauding someone, by definition, makes you a scammer.

Whats the definition of deceiving you might ask?

Main Entry:
de·ceive Listen to the pronunciation of deceive
Pronunciation:
\di-&#712;s&#275;v\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
de·ceived; de·ceiv·ing
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French deceivre, from Latin decipere, from de- + capere to take — more at heave
Date:
13th century

transitive verb1archaic : ensnare2 aobsolete : to be false to barchaic : to fail to fulfill3obsolete : cheat4: <span style="font-weight: bold">to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid </span>archaic : to while awayintransitive verb: to practice deceit ; also : to give a false impression <appearances can deceive>
— de·ceiv·er noun
— de·ceiv·ing·ly Listen to the pronunciation of deceivingly \-&#712;s&#275;-vi&#331;-l&#275;\ adverb
synonyms deceive , mislead , delude , beguile mean to lead astray or frustrate usually by underhandedness. deceive implies imposing a false idea or belief that causes ignorance, bewilderment, or helplessness <tried to deceive me about the cost>. mislead implies a leading astray that may or may not be intentional <I was misled by the confusing sign>. delude implies deceiving so thoroughly as to obscure the truth <we were deluded into thinking we were safe>. beguile stresses the use of charm and persuasion in deceiving <was beguiled by false promises>.

When you inaccurately describe an item you have for sale as being something it isn't it make you a liar and if you accept money for something that isn't what you claimed it was it makes you a thief.

What you did was no different in telling someone your Volkswagen with a body kit is a classic Ferrari... and according to the rules of the TW rating system (atleast as I understand them) your negative is very warranted.
 
Sorry, my copy and paste was a bit messed up there, lets try again. :P

Definition of a scammer:

scammer

noun
a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scammer?jss=0

And now lets look at what the true meaning of deception...

Deception
De*ceit"\, n. [OF. deceit, des[,c]ait, decept (cf. deceite, de[,c]oite), fr. L. deceptus deception, fr. decipere. See Deceive.]

1. An attempt or disposition to deceive or lead into error; any declaration, artifice, or practice, which misleads another, or causes him to believe what is false; a contrivance to entrap; deception; a wily device; fraud.

http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=deception&search=search

So in summary the person misrepresented the item they where selling by lying about being the Original Owner, and by definition they are a scammer, even though they said:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RandomGamers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok im a lier
not a scammer

just cause im not OO doesnt make me a scammer
even if i said im OO im not a scammer

ud be getting a legit account that no one would touch
but anyways doesnt matter ive already traded the account</div></div>
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RandomGamers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i like how im in the scam busters
i didnt even trade anything

</div></div>

you cannot spell either...
 
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