acount was recalled and Tessius1111 will not refund money

[morfin123456]

Information
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Date that scamming took place: ex; november 18 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: papasmurg1111
Your Instant Messenger ID: dranloblade123
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: tessius1111
Other information:
at the end of july 2010 i bought an acount for tessius1111 in person then i was playing this acount for 1 month
then started school full time so i had to stop for the time being when i finished school i bought the cata keys to upgrade my
acount but then when i tryed to log in it said information was invalid so i check my email and i see that theirs
emails from blizzard showing information change the password and email have been changed also so i contacted tessius1111 and he told me he might consider refunding me but i said since it was a while ago i would just take half of what i payed and he didnt answer after that so i assumed
he didnt care

Scam Information
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What was scammed?: $285
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-auctions-buy-sell/390149-%5B%5D-druid-|-6200gs-resto-|-6100-gs-boomkin-|-5-realm-firsts-|-4x-310%25-|-much-more.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $285 ca

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papasmurg1111 6:57 pm
i can try, give me a moment or two in the middle a stuff

dranloblade123 6:57 pm
k

dranloblade123 6:59 pm
all i know is the person who recalled it
traded it
and its getting chain traded
its why im getting so many emails

dranloblade123 7:05 pm
any luck on the info?

papasmurg1111 is available 7:12 pm
BUYING CATA CD KEY, + gold on any pvp world 7d and 21h ago Comment
papasmurg1111 7:12 pm
not finding the cd keys, calling will have to be the only option

dranloblade123 7:17 pm
ok
if your able to get it back
would be amazing

papasmurg1111 7:18 pm
will need to xfer it to a new account (cd keys) to make sure it doesnt happen gain

dranloblade123 7:18 pm
ya
if u get it back
can u help me do it
but first lets see if u can get it back

dranloblade123 7:31 pm
any luck on the phone with blizz?

papasmurg1111 7:31 pm
roomies on the house phone

dranloblade123 7:31 pm
o
so u gota wait i geuss '[

papasmurg1111 7:49 pm
k phones free
hold up

dranloblade123 7:49 pm
kk

dranloblade123 7:58 pm
still on hold?

papasmurg1111 7:58 pm
yup 18 mins

dranloblade123 7:58 pm
ok im gona take a shower be back in 10 while u wait
brb

papasmurg1111 8:15 pm
dude
whats the char name?
u recall

dranloblade123 8:26 pm
ooak
sorry back
his name was ********
on cho gall

papasmurg1111 8:27 pm
its been xfered to a new acc now same username tho
asked them to lock it

dranloblade123 8:27 pm
so what now

papasmurg1111 8:27 pm
need to get Id with the name ********

dranloblade123 8:27 pm
whos got it?
your not on the phone wih blizz any more?

papasmurg1111 8:28 pm
nope

dranloblade123 8:28 pm
ok
but how u gona get the id

papasmurg1111 8:29 pm
cant legally get id, for it accounts gone now unless u create fake id for it but naturally thats illegal, locked it so at least the person who stole it cant use it either

dranloblade123 8:30 pm
then whats gona happen now
do u got an acount u able to give?
cause now i lost what u bought
what i bought i mean

dranloblade123 8:32 pm
damion

papasmurg1111 8:41 pm
we'll see what i can do in regards to recovering that original druid but odds are its lost

dranloblade123 8:41 pm
i know
blizz has been investigating it for a while
what will happen if i cant get it back
and odds are i prob wont get it back
papasmurg1111 8:57 pm
hmm...i will see if i can aquire another reasonable account for u
but i cant promise

dranloblade123 8:57 pm
can i just get half the money i paid u for
id rather that cause this acounts gone
could u do that
i think thats fair

dranloblade123 9:06 pm
damion?

dranloblade123 9:13 pm
an answer would be cool
im asking for half my money back and im not getting an answer great

papasmurg1111 9:16 pm
i'll consider it, quite frankly normally once i sell an account a refound of any sort after this long of a time isnt normally in the cards
but then again this is the first one thats been recalled

dranloblade123 9:16 pm
yes i know
but as i said before i played for a month
then i was full time in school
i couldnt have known it was recalled then
i paid 285
but im fine takeing 170
thats more then fair

papasmurg1111 9:18 pm
actually its quite reasonable in ur facor
favor

dranloblade123 9:18 pm
and hows that?

dranloblade123 9:18 pm
i paid 285 to play an acount for 1 month?
then get nothing back?
its more resonable thing i see
u wont find a vanity acount like this for a cheap price
so all im asking for is 170
and everything is done with

 

[EpicNPC]

tessius1111 has been notified.

 

[Tessius1111]

gold him the account in person July of last year provided all information i had with the notice i was quitting Sq was provided with no id (as the account had none) he had my home number my cellphone number and my personal emails, and i believe it was 2-3 days ago contacted me stating the account was lost 3 weeks after purchase (we kept in touch for the first week), quite frankly i dont know what circumstances lead to the loss of this account but despite his attempts to pretend to be a mod on the forums threatening me i attempted to assist him in the recover he had none of the applicable account information and when i scanned through the few records i did keep he went as far as to get access to a druid which he didnt purchase (and old 80 i had laying around apparently) to later on inform me "oh actually i do have the information you provided" quite frankly if this account was lost withing the first few weeks...hell even a month or two afterwards i'd be fine with refunding him but 7 months after he's purchased from me i wont issue a refund this was lost through negligence alone -.-

 

[morfin123456]

k first of all the phone number u gave me it wasnt yours i called it and it said this number cant be reached as dialed your email u never gave me i still have the paper u wrote down the info at when we met at the internet cafe all u gave me was the guys name and sq and the answer .i contacted him on aim even but it was his gf who answered so if your telling me i didnt try to contact u, dont bull****t please cause the minute i found out it was gone i did and mike if u want i got more emails from blizzard to prove this acount was recalled and thats its been chain traded before the acount was move on to a new WOW acount

 

[Husky]

gold him the account in person July of last year provided all information i had with the notice i was quitting Sq was provided with no id (as the account had none) he had my home number my cellphone number and my personal emails, and i believe it was 2-3 days ago contacted me stating the account was lost 3 weeks after purchase (we kept in touch for the first week), quite frankly i dont know what circumstances lead to the loss of this account but despite his attempts to pretend to be a mod on the forums threatening me i attempted to assist him in the recover he had none of the applicable account information and when i scanned through the few records i did keep he went as far as to get access to a druid which he didnt purchase (and old 80 i had laying around apparently) to later on inform me "oh actually i do have the information you provided" quite frankly if this account was lost withing the first few weeks...hell even a month or two afterwards i'd be fine with refunding him but 7 months after he's purchased from me i wont issue a refund this was lost through negligence alone -.-

He was not pretending to be a mod, I was the one who spoke to you.

 

[morfin123456]

as i said so many times before i played the acount for a month before i started school full time their was no way i would have been able to know the acount was recalled i was very busy when my course's were done i bought the cata cdkeys to upgrade the acount but when i tryed to log in it said invaild information and i also said i would take half of what i paid u so dont say i wanted full refund even when i posted are convo in this thread

---------- Post added 02-23-2011 at 08:13 PM ----------

lol who can i pretend to be a mod thats funny

 

[Tessius1111]

and i take your word for this after half a year? that's absurd and Kascada next time you message someoen have the good sense to mention who you are and notify them in forum so you dont come across well...the way you did

 

[Husky]

and i take your word for this after half a year? that's absurd and Kascada next time you message someoen have the good sense to mention who you are and notify them in forum so you dont come across well...the way you did

Normally I do so I apologize, however when I mentioned that your account could possibly be banned/suspended I would figure that would be a hint.

Regardless of that fact, You are responsible for accounts you sell on the forum, and if you dont want to refund morfin's money it would be a good idea to at least help him retrieve his account back.

 

[morfin123456]

he called blizzard but he doesnt have any infomation to the acount so he couldnt get it back and blizzard told him that the character has been moved to a new acount

 

[Tessius1111]

yes it was moved to a new account , i was the one who informed you of this and of course i dont have this information i provided YOU with every shred of information there was when i provided it to you i have no obligation to hold onto the information for this long (i have a few obscure emails) but as i mentioned to you and u were well aware i was done with wow account sales when u purchased it you were a tool, and didn't bother to check into the account, you didn't bother to inform me of any mismanagement on my part, and like I've said and will say again your **** outta luck if your going to contact me half a year later and tell me i cheated you cause when we squared up you didn't have any complains you insist on me going outta my way and pocket to reimburse you for an account you didn't even bother to check up on? sounds like absolute bull**** to me i've never once purchased an account TWV or otherwise and not at least check into the account to make sure its safe, and busy with ur studies bull**** dude when u bought it u just came back into the country you got into a heavy school course 3 weeks after that? my ***

---------- Post added 02-23-2011 at 08:55 PM ----------

actually if i recall didnt i even add a month a frigin playtime on there with u in the cafe

 

[morfin123456]

LOL ok dude first of all U WROTE THE INFO DOWN FOR ME at the internet cafe so dont ****ing tell me that and second if u know any thing about georgebrown college and their coruse hours which u dont u would know how busy i am and so what its been 7 months doesnt mean any thing if the acount is still gone AND SECOND I DIDNT ASK FOR A FULL REFUND i said just half and no u didnt i had to use my credit card to activate the acount so ****king bull**** with me thinking u did all of this i remember everything that day

 

[Tessius1111]

yes you used ur credit card and u gave me 15 dollars less than the price i was asking for , and and i did write down the info for you thats correct and you verified all of it on the spot didn't you? whats ur point about how i gave it to you, anyways im done nothing else to say to you let the mods decide whats what

 

[morfin123456]

i will let them and the info u gave me was wrong the name doesnt fit with the acount just the sqa but ok will lets the mods decide what to do

 

[SeanDylan]

First of all, if you purchase an account without having the ID, as a buyer, you should be well informed of the risks. Regardless, the seller is still responsible for the account, unless he states otherwise. What I need to see to come to a decision is this. I need Morfin to post a screenshot of the email that Blizzard sent you, informing you that the password was changed and the account had been recalled.

If either of you two have any questions or concern, message me on AIM. Try to upload this photo within the day.

 

[equipto]

gonna mention this """Ge tthe **** out of my post you ****, Dont contact me the account history is clearly avaliable on the forums Aquired from Destiny, to RMC, to me this post is regarding the sale of the account if you want to know about the gear, the time, anything character related that we talk about and how do you figure im a scammer from out conversation you piece of ****..."""


stated in http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-auctions-buy-sell/390149-[]-druid-%7C-6200gs-resto-%7C-6100-gs-boomkin-%7C-5-realm-firsts-%7C-4x-310%25-%7C-much-more.html

 

[SeanDylan]

Equipto,if you're not directly involved with this, please stay out of it, thanks. This is your final warning.

 

[morfin123456]

heres another email that i have from blizz

Imageshack - email5.png

 

[EpicNPC]

morfin123456 purchased account from Tessius1111 in July
Nov 18, account info was changed (password ?)
Nov 26, email address was changed

morfin123456 was provided with all account info, not including ID

yes it was moved to a new account , i was the one who informed you of this

When did you find this out? when you called Blizzard what did they tell you about who recalled the account? Did they say someone sent in the ID?

morfin123456, the first email you posted shows "account change notice". Was this when the account was moved? If the email wasn't changed until the 26th, why didn't you reset the password yourself?

What was the policy discussed if something were to happen to the account. morfin123456 did Tessius1111 tell you he would be able to recover the account for you if something happened?

 

[morfin123456]

i noticed it at the end of januaruy when my semester ended i came back home and the log in didnt work then i saw that i had alot of emails from blizz log with inforamtion change and an email change and the first email was november 18 2010 then they kept coming and then i tryed to contact tessius but apprently it was his girlfreind on aim and she blocked me when i asked for him so i tryed calling but the number he gave me when i dialed said sorry this number cant be connected as dialed so i sent a ingame message and he responded and thier really was not a discussion on what would happen if the acount was recalled we just met at a internet cafe exchange info and that was it

---------- Post added 02-25-2011 at 10:16 PM ----------

i didnt get told by blizz the acount was moved to a new acount tessius was told by blizz when i asked him to call them then he said only way to get it back was with an id for the regular acount but we couldnt

 

[EpicNPC]

Ok, so basically you didn't see any of the emails until Jan.

This is going to come down to the agreement between you and Tessius1111.

thier really was not a discussion on what would happen if the acount was recalled

You obviously knew he didn't have the ID and wasn't the OO. Its seems to me you didn't really ask the questions you needed to when you purchased the account. Asking what happens incase of a recall is a pretty big question not to ask when buying a $275 account.

Due the the time that has passed I'm not going to ban Tessius1111 if he doesn't refund partial payment to you. It wasn't his fault you didn't see the emails from Blizzard in Nov, had you seen them, you might have been able to prevent the account being changed or getting locked.

I do think he should provide you with some refund as he should have mentioned something to you about a refund/recall policy, but not 1/2. Maybe 1/3 or 1/4, however this is only my recommendation, Im not going to ban him if he doesn't.

 

[EpicNPC]

Leaving it open for any responses from OP or tessisus1111. Closing in 24 hrs.