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Account recall

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Scam Accusation
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Multiple Accounts
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Information
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Purchase Date: Apr 14, 2021
Date the problem began: Sept, 20, 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program):Discord/epicnpc
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/annohaha.743823/ Discord: SmiLe#0949
Your Instant Messenger ID: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/dannypkker.734583/ Discord: Danber#9108

Other information:
We mostly used Discord to talk and confirmed in epicnpc

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-ar49-8-5-heroes-with-9-5-weapons-login-mihoyo-200.1901081/
Approximate value of property: $225USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
The Genshin account was recalled on 9/20/2021
Other details / notes:
The accounts username was completely changed as so with the email
When I tried to "forgot password" and put in the username it gives me an error
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I first contacted my sellers and he said that he would contact his friend.
The friend(Touch) said he got it from his friend and Original owner(Nougget)
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replied that he knows nothing of the account ever since he gave it to him.
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I tried to fill out the account recovery form
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and asked Touch for help to get information from Nougget and it took days to respond and they did the claim to not know any of the questions
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After filling out the account recovery form and getting a reponse I got denied for having incomplete information


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) He ask the current owner to unlink all devices off the account but besides from that nothing else
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 5 Months
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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SmiLeStore

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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/crypto-paypal-scammer-300-feedbacks.2431154/
Hi everyone, in advance I apologize profusely
I've tried to help force the original owner to replace it but he doesn't want to be responsible, in my post it says that I'm not the owner of the account, and when I made a transaction with dannypkker I asked him "is it safe?" And yes he said "looks good"
After a few months he said his account was taken (hack back)
I have resigned if this is my fault, to replace it with money I don't have money
I am sorry, my English is not good

this is proof he said the account was safe, then he came back after 5 months after the account was bought

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SmiLeStore

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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/crypto-paypal-scammer-300-feedbacks.2431154/
I've created a chat group for him with the original owner, and they talked about the problem

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touchzin

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Banned - chargeback scams - [email protected]
@annohaha does the owner have an account here?
hi, the owner account doesn't have an account here, i'm the guy who bought him's account from a facebook group.
as u guys saw, i tried contact with him to help danny with the recover details but he said the he don't remember bc he drop the account in the beginning
 

SmiLeStore

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From that thread

Price is 900$ paypal friends&family, open for offers
MM fee is on you

-AR 56
-unlinked account also there is no username (login) set!!!
-have receipts and the original email
-female MC
-good artifacts & builds
-inuzuma not explored, more than 10k primogems to get making quests

5*characters:
-Diluc C6
-Eula C2
-Zhongli C0
-Ayaka C0
-Raiden Shogun C3
-Kazuha C0
-Keqing C1
-Mona C2
-Qiqi C2
-Jean C1
-Klee C0
-Hu Tao C0
-Yoimiya C0
-Xiao C0
-Childe C0
-Venti C1

Worth to mention: Bennet C5

More than 20 weapons T4 with R5
if need or want more information/prints dm here or disc: Touch#0026

How do I know thats my account?

No username (hence why I can't use the forgot username feature)
AR56
female mc
Inazuma not explored

Heres a Link to the account thread from when I First bought the account https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-ar49-8-5-heroes-with-9-5-weapons-login-mihoyo-200.1901081/

You can double check all the constellation to make sure its correct and because its a older post (over half a year ago) I've played and spend money on the account and gotten new characters
and to top it all off here is a screenshot of the mihoyo recovery email(same one as my First post) that got denied but this time will include account additional details to prove this is same account he is trying resell now
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I suspect they might of been working together because these guys seems to be close.
Like using a friend epicnpc account to sell then after recovering it reselling on his, and also they have each other on other messaging apps like
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Also on his post there was

-have receipts and the original email

so clearly they were never trying help me to recover the account they giving false to no information to help me get back to the account because they already had it back in the first place
 

SmiLeStore

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you accuse me of cooperating?
why do i tell touch's epic account?
 
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We can check that account easy if you can stream it with me and a epicnpc staff in it on discord call or you can do a video showing us the same characters and equipment like the post and finally showing the UID ( to check if it match to my account)
and I believe you gave touch's epicnpc because you didnt want to get in trouble
 

EpicNPC CM

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Touchzin has been banned for chargeback scams, unfortunately @annohaha you will have to refund your buyer for the account, you can open a chargeback against touchzin and post this dispute as evidence they were banned.
 

SmiLeStore

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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/crypto-paypal-scammer-300-feedbacks.2431154/
Touchzin has been banned for chargeback scams, unfortunately @annohaha you will have to refund your buyer for the account, you can open a chargeback against touchzin and post this dispute as evidence they were banned.
I didn't receive any money from the sale of the account, the money was sent directly to PayPal touchzin, I don't have that much money to replace it

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SmiLeStore

BANNED - Do not buy, sell or trade with this user.
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Warning: Trade with Caution
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/crypto-paypal-scammer-300-feedbacks.2431154/
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the email is the same as the one used by touchzin
 
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