Account is locked

[SeiShonagon]

Dispute Against

EmptyxD

Hi not a while ago I did a trade on this site with the user @EmptyxD and the middleman @ARMIK and found out today my email had been suspiciously recovered. The login info is secured I changed the password and my email recovery except the back up code which the middleman still has access to and no one else. I did not share my logins with anybody or anybody else only the mod knows the backup code. I’ve tried contacting him about the changed password and I did not receive a reply since.

 

[Angel]

It seems that your email is recovered by the original owner and this is not Armik. @EmptyxD can you help us here, please?

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@Angel I have not taken the account. I cannot help. Whatever proof you would like to prove that it's not me that took the account. I will provide it.

 

[SeiShonagon]

It seems that your email is recovered by the original owner and this is not Armik. @EmptyxD can you help us here, please?

Wouldn’t that be impossible and strange? Empty has told me that he had the account for quite a while and there were no anonymous login attempts ever since he bought it from the original owner.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

if there is anything i can do let me know.

 

[SeiShonagon]

I got suspicious sign in attempts this week I thought I had forgotten the password but I found out on my recovery email that it was changed twice without my notice so I contacted armik for the backup code last week for the password change and he hasn’t responded to me at all

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@Angel Just so you know, the person that secured this account when i bought it from another seller was Armik. So i would really love his input here

 

[SeiShonagon]

i didn’t want to suspect Armik due to his high rep but he’s the only one that secured my account before anyone else also the back up code that is required to change the account’s password was also armik’s so theres no possible way that the original owner saw the backup code as our convo was private

 

[Angel]

When is about ARMIK I can assure you that this issue has nothing to do with him.

@EmptyxD how long did you had this account before is sold to @SeiShonagon?

 

[SeiShonagon]

@EmptyxD do you know how many people has used this account prior to me?

 

[ARMIK]

hey, i wasnt home all day

what i can tell is i think empty also bought it from someone else. and i think the original owner might have been the one that recovered it

as angel mentioned, i have never been accused or proven to take over any of the accounts i middleman. its weird that you think i did it.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@ARMIK didn't you secure it?

 

[ARMIK]

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[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

how was it recovered?

 

[ARMIK]

@ARMIK didn't you secure it?

should i refresh your memory and point out you bought this account off someone else? and then sold it to this guyu?

i secured it 2 times.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

so how was it recovered if you secured it?

 

[ARMIK]

original owners have upper hand in recovering accounts since they have more info to tell the support.

 

[SeiShonagon]

so how was it recovered if you secured it?

Empty if you know the owner please tell so I can recover that account

 

[SeiShonagon]

I also need purchase receipts if you’ve ever bought anything on that account

 

[EpicNPC]

June 9 - Redkidd sells acount to EmptyxD
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account to SeiShonagon
Aug 6 - SeiShonagon needs code to change password
Aug 12 - SeiShonagon claims Gmail account was recovered


1) This images shows SeiShonagon asking for help in changing the password. The transaction completed on July 18, you didn't update any info for 3 weeks? Why not? It is the buyers responsibility to secure the account once they receive it.
https://img.epicnpc.com/2020/08/1758032_454872d0d0596f4b9258055844712938.jpeg


2) @Redkidd you labeled your sale thread as "Original owner". Please recover the email address mi*******[email protected]. Once you have regained access to the email address, reply back here.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/global-endgame-acc-9-ml-5-28-pulls-for-pity-mystics-250.1634337/

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[EmptyxD]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

I have messaged Redkidd on discord to check epicnpc

 

[SeiShonagon]

June 9 - Redkidd sells acount to EmptyxD
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account to SeiShonagon
Aug 6 - SeiShonagon needs code to change password
Aug 12 - SeiShonagon claims Gmail account was recovered


1) This images shows SeiShonagon asking for help in changing the password. The transaction completed on July 18, you didn't update any info for 3 weeks? Why not? It is the buyers responsibility to secure the account once they receive it.
https://img.epicnpc.com/2020/08/1758032_454872d0d0596f4b9258055844712938.jpeg


2) @Redkidd you labeled your sale thread as "Original owner". Please recover the email address mi*******[email protected]. Once you have regained access to the email address, reply back here.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/global-endgame-acc-9-ml-5-28-pulls-for-pity-mystics-250.1634337/

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I‘ve changed the password 2 weeks after I got the account because I was told by Armik not to change anything to avoid any possible google lockdown. But after I changed the password I found out that the password was changed again by an unknown source a week after I secured the account so I thought I had forgotten my password hence why I’ve contacted Armik about the back up code. But when in fact it was somebody else that had changed the password without my notice.

 

[SeiShonagon]

Here’s the receipt on my recovery email someone was using a chinese phone to recover the email

 

[EpicNPC]

I‘ve changed the password 2 weeks after I got the account because I was told by Armik not to change anything to avoid any possible google lockdown. But after I changed the password I found out that the password was changed again by an unknown source a week after I secured the account so I thought I had forgotten my password hence why I’ve contacted Armik about the back up code. But when in fact it was somebody else that had changed the password without my notice.

Okay, thank you for the explanation.

We'll wait for an update from Redkidd and EmptyxD

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@EpicNPC What would you like from me?

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

I have not taken the account, i've been trying to help @SeiShonagon since yesterday. I've provided all receipts for epic seven, so he has a chance to get the account back.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

I've also tried recovering that account for him. but this is the message i get

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

https://cdn.[Social group links not allowed].com/attachments/733381901234077846/743153185417461770/Screenshot_20200812-180524_Google_Play_services.jpg

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@EpicNPC

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

 

[EpicNPC]

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@Redkidd posted he's the original owner of this account, which means he should be able to recover the Gmail using his device. He must recover it or he will be banned. If he's not the original owner and can't recover it, that's false advertising and results in a 100% refund.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

Who is issuing the refund? @EpicNPC

 

[Redkidd]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959/

I'm trying to recover it, its been 2 month since i ssold my acc

 

[Redkidd]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959/

what should i do??

 

[SeiShonagon]

I'm trying to recover it, its been 2 month since i ssold my acc

Are you really the original owner of the account?

 

[ARMIK]

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[SeiShonagon]

Hi I’ve haven’t gotten any response are you the original owner of the account? I’ve got an update from @EmptyxD on his account that my account was indeed stolen as It was shown logged on a couple minutes ago.

 

[EpicNPC]

June 9 - Redkidd sells acount to EmptyxD
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account to SeiShonagon
Aug 6 - SeiShonagon needs code to change password
Aug 12 - SeiShonagon claims Gmail account was recovered

Redkidd is responsible for recovering the account.

If he can recover, then you have to tell me what you guys want to do.

SeiShonagon can regain control of the account
or
EmptyxD refunds SeiShonagon and EmptyxD keeps the account
or
Redkidd keeps the account and both EmptyxD and SeiShonagon receive refunds

If the account can't be recoverd, then Redkidd should refund EmptyxD and EmptyxD should refund SeiShonagon.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

@EpicNPC What if he doesn't refund anything?

 

[SeiShonagon]

June 9 - Redkidd sells acount to EmptyxD
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account to SeiShonagon
Aug 6 - SeiShonagon needs code to change password
Aug 12 - SeiShonagon claims Gmail account was recovered

Redkidd is responsible for recovering the account.

If he can recover, then you have to tell me what you guys want to do.

SeiShonagon can regain control of the account
or
EmptyxD refunds SeiShonagon and EmptyxD keeps the account
or
Redkidd keeps the account and both EmptyxD and SeiShonagon receive refunds

If the account can't be recoverd, then Redkidd should refund EmptyxD and EmptyxD should refund SeiShonagon.

First option would be great but if the account can’t be recovered then I‘d think a refund would be for the best.

 

[EpicNPC]

As stated Redkidd said he's the OO and currently the account is locked. The original owner should not have too much trouble submitting his data to show he's the original owner. If he can't unlock it, we will assume he's not the original owner. He will be required to issue a refund for false advertising. If he does not, Redkidd will be banned and EmptyxD can dispute the payment.

 

[EpicNPC]

@Redkidd please post an update on the status of the account recovery. If there's no reply in 48 hrs he'll be banned.

 

[SeiShonagon]

Hi I still haven’t receive any updates from the self proclaimed owner and @EmptyxD told me he hasn’t responded to his messages yet

 

[SeiShonagon]

I just received an email from EpicSeven team about the account recovery they wanted some infos about the account before they transfer the data to a new email address. @Redkidd i would really appreciate if you help me out on this one as it’s supposedly your account.

 

[EpicNPC]

Its been a week since Redkidd replied. I do not believe he's the original owner of this account and he is not providing any help in recovering it.

scammers info:
[email protected]
[email protected]
RekberIlham
[email protected]

@EmptyxD please file a dispute or chargeback for the payment you sent to Redkidd. Please update once you have done that.

If Redkidd helps to recover the account, he can be unbanned.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

i paid via f&f, so i cant dispute

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

only option is "report unauthorised purchase"

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

What im willing to do is i can return this account back. If @SeiShonagon can refund my $125USD + 75USD (to somewhat cover my cost for the other acc), i will return the account back.

 

[EmptyxD]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959

What do you think @EpicNPC

 

[EpicNPC]

June 9 - Redkidd sells account to EmptyxD ($190)
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account + $125 to SeiShonagon for his account

What im willing to do is i can return this account back. If @SeiShonagon can refund my $125USD + 75USD (to somewhat cover my cost for the other acc), i will return the account back.

You will give SeiShonagon back his original account if he refunds $125 + $75?

If SeiShonagon agrees, you can do that or you can report the payment to Redkidd as an unauthorized purchase.

For the original transaction with Redkidd, he did not mention sending the payment as family. Are you sure that's how you sent it?