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Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
Yep,that's how I sent it.
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
Yes I will give his account back for $125(which is how much I gave him)+$75. I lose 100USD
 
It’s really for the best since we couldn’t get Redkidd to reply and I really really needed the money from my account for my college tuition. Thank you @EmptyxD for the compassion and understanding I really thought I was gonna lose everything.
 
I'm glad you were able to come an agreement. I have also issue a refund for the MM fee for this transaction TG #24517 .

Please update once the exchange is complete and we can then close this dispute.
 
@EmptyxD I thought we had an agreement? A few people reached out to me claiming that you were going to sell my account outside of EpicNPC for triple the price point that we agreed on was going to be returned to you when I have the money by October. Can you please clarify your intentions here because I’m starting to doubt everything that you said.
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
I have not sold anything, and won't.That was before we had come to an agreement.
 
I have not sold anything, and won't.That was before we had come to an agreement.
Something doesn’t add up the date you were going to sell my account was on August 23rd the guy had a screenshot and everything we had an agreement on Friday 21st of August. The date we had an agreement was 2 days before you put my account on sale to other platforms. Please explain to me @EmptyxD you were the last person I expected to do this.
 
The agreement was made nearly a week ago. When do you guys plan to make the exchange? SeiShonagon do you have $200?
I currently do not have the funds to return to him yet which is partly why I had to sell my account in the first place for money so I can afford my tuition but now that I have to pay for my own account which I don’t have at the moment. That’s why I made an agreement with empty on October that I refund his payment and I have my account returned to me on day the I have the money.
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
Right, I'll be honest with you. Waiting two months is rough on top of the fact that I have to deal with the fact that you can take my account back, it's kinda stressful. And like I said, I have no intention of selling it. I will definitely wait til October if that's what takes, but I would like your word.
 
What about letting EmptyxD sell the account since he seems to have an interested buyer. EmptyxD can keep $200 from the sale, then the remaining amount is given to SeiShonagon?

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Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
The post was made before we had agreed upon our deal, people still message me however. I can remove the post if you like.
 
What about letting EmptyxD sell the account since he seems to have an interested buyer. EmptyxD can keep $200 from the sale, then the remaining amount is given to SeiShonagon?

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He wouldn’t lose any money but I will because originally my asking price for my account was $800 and that‘s the lowest I can possibly go for an account that I spent so much money and time investing in acquiring almost all the heroes excluding the free 3 stars. The only reason I agreed to trade with empty cause his account value was approximately $600-$700 plus an $125 fee for the extra stuff on my account and I was pretty desperate in need of cash so I sold it to the first person that’s interested in it. But I didn’t expect the traded account to be recalled. So even if the account was sold I’ll receive not even a fraction of the price he was selling for $400.
 
Right, I'll be honest with you. Waiting two months is rough on top of the fact that I have to deal with the fact that you can take my account back, it's kinda stressful. And like I said, I have no intention of selling it. I will definitely wait til October if that's what takes, but I would like your word.
You have no idea lol I have to pay for my tuition fee which I don’t have the money for plus the fact I have to drop out of school because I do not have enough money to cover my rent either. I even had to quit my part time job and as a student living alone I can’t sustain myself not with the on going epidemic you have no idea how much pressure and stress I’m dealing with right now @EmptyxD.
 
I don't know what the buyer's offer was only that it was "triple the price point that we agreed".

It wouldn't hurt to look for a buyer while you wait on the $200 payment. If get a good offer, that would resolve it for everyone and if not, then you just wait for the $200 payment.
 
I don't know what the buyer's offer was only that it was "triple the price point that we agreed".

It wouldn't hurt to look for a buyer while you wait on the $200 payment. If get a good offer, that would resolve it for everyone and if not, then you just wait for the $200 payment.
I meant that he was possibly trying to sell my account for more profit because the $200 that we agreed on wasn‘t enough for him. Though I’m not sure how much my account was put up on sale for and if it was sold idk how much I would receive in return to cover my loss.
 
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Both of you should be involved if a buyer is found. The payment should be sent to SeiShonagon since you would receive the majority of the money anyway. $200 would then be sent to EmptyxD.
 
Here to update our situation @EmptyxD changed his mind a few days ago and declined my offer to refund him for my account. He decided that he wants to keep my account after pulling F Lidica from the anniversary covenant. I’ve given him time to come up with a solution but he’s been giving me the same response “I’ll get back to you”, “I’m busy” and today he’s been ignoring my messages. I’ve offered him a large discount that includes a discharge fee that covers his transaction with Redkidd but he still thinks that isn’t good enough. I really don’t know what I’m gonna do.
 
EmptyxD has been email notified. He has not been online in over a week. If there's no response from him, we'll have to issue a ban in 48 hrs until he resolves it.
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
The only way i see this happening is, if i get refund on how much i've spent as well which near 200 on in game purchases. So I would be looking at around 400. I personally think thats fair. No way, i can give it back for 200usd and screw myself over for 200 for an investment that i put into the account, seeing as i would permanently own the account.
 
The only way i see this happening is, if i get refund on how much i've spent as well which near 200 on in game purchases. So I would be looking at around 400. I personally think thats fair. No way, i can give it back for 200usd and screw myself over for 200 for an investment that i put into the account, seeing as i would permanently own the account.

if you can invest in monthly $100 dollar packs then you can you can afford to buy the account which you have not and refused to pay even after I offer a discount to my already low price. Which one is it? Also I am not responsible for your “investment” when you are literally about to sell my account outside of EpicNPC.
 
The only way i see this happening is, if i get refund on how much i've spent as well which near 200 on in game purchases. So I would be looking at around 400. I personally think thats fair. No way, i can give it back for 200usd and screw myself over for 200 for an investment that i put into the account, seeing as i would permanently own the account.

You didn’t even bother replying to my messages after I’ve asked you countless times to negotiate the pricing of my account and it’s absolutely gross how you are charging me the price of the packs you’re buying when I value my price according to the market if I were to charge you my investment that’ll be more than 4k in total which you could not ever afford when you can’t even afford to pay me $400 that’s already a huge discount from my original asking price.
 
The only way i see this happening is, if i get refund on how much i've spent as well which near 200 on in game purchases. So I would be looking at around 400. I personally think thats fair. No way, i can give it back for 200usd and screw myself over for 200 for an investment that i put into the account, seeing as i would permanently own the account.

Since you have already paid $125 I’ll deduct that plus I’ll add another $190 to the deduction to cover your fees with redkidd and no you cannot charge me the pack fees that you’re investing in my AngryHoe account because that is absurd and absolutely ridiculous as you’ll be keeping the account you’re investing in. In total that will bring the price down to $485 that is very fair for the both of us. So please consider the deal
 
June 9 - Redkidd sells account to EmptyxD ($190)
July 18 - EmptyxD trades same account + $125 to SeiShonagon for his account

EmptyxD gives account back to SeiShonagon if he refunds $125 + $75? - Original agreement
EmptyxD now wants $400 for the account - New offer from EmptyxD

He decided that he wants to keep my account after pulling F Lidica from the anniversary covenant.
This dispute was opened Aug 12. Why are you spending money on an account you agreed to return 3 weeks ago? Why are you playing on it at all?

If the value of this account has increased due to the recent activity, that does not mean EmptyxD can make a profit. The lose between EmptyxD and SeiShonagon should be equal, no one is allowed to profit when a scam is reported.

We'll wait 48 hrs for EmptyxD to come to an new fair agreement with SeiShonagon. If one can't be reached, a ban will be issued.
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-is-locked.1677959
The money was spent before then. I have spent maybe 20ish usd after Aug 12. That's it.
 
The money was spent before then. I have spent maybe 20ish usd after Aug 12. That's it.
Wait if you didn’t spend any money after our agreement then why have you increased the price drastically? Originally we had an agreement for $200 but now you want double the money that we agreed on. Not to mention our agreement was literally 2 weeks ago. Me paying $400 for my own account plus the account that I traded for got taken back it’s like the trade never happened and that Im being scammed to pay $400 for putting my own account up for sale. I really need the money for school @EmptyxD im not even joking and now you want me to buy my own account for $400 that’s ridiculous. I’m the one that’s losing everything how does that “fair“ to you when Im the one paying off your debt. Also please stop spending money on a account that you’re going to be selling and then increase the price with the packs you bought without the buyers consent that’s literally cheating. And can you reply to my message so we can negotiate properly??
 
Its been a week since Redkidd replied. I do not believe he's the original owner of this account and he is not providing any help in recovering it.

scammers info:
[email protected]
[email protected]
RekberIlham
[email protected]

@EmptyxD please file a dispute or chargeback for the payment you sent to Redkidd. Please update once you have done that.

If Redkidd helps to recover the account, he can be unbanned.
Just want to mention that I know the paypal email ([email protected]) , he is an off-site middleman "that accepts" receiving paypal payment for fees.
Not sure about that [email protected] , I suspect that is the bound email for the account?
 
It seems clear EmptyxD ([email protected]) does not plan to resolve this issue. He's been banned until he does.

We will allow EmptyxD to resolve this based on the original agreement. SeiShonagon if he contacts you, please keep this thread updated. We'll leave it open for a few more days to see if he changes his mind.
 
It seems clear EmptyxD ([email protected]) does not plan to resolve this issue. He's been banned until he does.

We will allow EmptyxD to resolve this based on the original agreement. SeiShonagon if he contacts you, please keep this thread updated. We'll leave it open for a few more days to see if he changes his mind.

Unfortunately I don’t think he’s planning on returning my account since he’s running away with it and I’ll end up losing my money 😞. But thank you for helping me it’s been really stressful dealing with this scam while trying to find the money to fund for my college tuition.
 
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EmptyxD has not contracted us and I'll assume he has not contacted you either.

I'm sorry, other than banning him, there's nothing else we can do. I'm not sure how you sent the original payment to him, but if you can, you can try opening a dispute for that. Good luck and if EmptyxD eventually does contact you, please let me know.
 
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