2 Negative Feedback for middleman sales

[Hellish v.2]

1. This account was sold 4 years ago Sept. 8th of 2016. I middleman sold this for Oriostoteles (a player since banned for recalling an account that I caught him selling on player auctions) he then proceeded to recall a number of accounts he had sold or that I middleman sold for him.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/end...al-thf-whm-full-1-ambuscade-rov-done.1014126/

2. This second account I middleman sold April 20th of 2018. The buyer and seller were in a skype conversation with me. We both reached out to the seller directly. The seller had actually resolved an issue for the buyer at one point via that same thread.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/3x-...c-7-relic-4-emp-6x110-crafts-shields.1294999/

Feel free to reach out to both and I can help track down the second user so the feedback can be applied against him and he can be banned.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@MrBig168 notified

 

[Hellish v.2]

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I know with mrbig the OO recalled it and had blocked me. He was banned on here for a puppet I caught him reselling. Mrbig left me feedback and I reached out right away, shared literally every piece of info I had including the registration codes (which I assume would get the account back). Mrbig saw the OO playing under the exact same name, then Ori switched his discord name to that characters name.

 

[MrBig168]

Yes. I am aware of the situation. But the real situaion was that I had contacted Oriostoteles and interested in that account originally. And suddenly Oriostoteles told me that the account was sold to someone else. ( which is Hellish V.2) Then after a couple of days, I saw Hellish V.2 put up the account up with higher price to sell. I was attracted the account already and therefore I bought the account with higher price from Hellish V.2. Does this count as middle man? To my knowledge and experiences, it is not. ( and Oriostoteles had let me access the account to see if i like it. after I bought the account form Hellish V.2, I found out that he had removed some sellable items from the account as well. ) After 3 years. OO who is Oriostoteles recalled the account. But the fact is I did buy the account from Hellish V.2 and I paid the Paypal to Hellish V.2

 

[Hellish v.2]

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When I was asked to sell it, I usually stripped accounts and made $50. This sale was an early one of mine on this site, so if I transacted the money, that was something I moved away quickly and can document (went to money being sent directly to owners as I didn’t want a dispute against me, I was just naive and thought it was safer that way to secure money and account info). I always shared with buyers who the OO was as I always worked with OOs. Aside from accounts I bought for $100 and grew myself to a value of something $50+ of profit, I usually used my name and experience to help original owners only sell accounts (I had success working with OOs because I could go to the source)

Did you use the registration codes and information I gave you to contact SE? I was away from this site and I don’t/ won’t ever be on 11 again, I just remember us talking and me sharing the information. I shared with you that he had blocked me after I caught him re-selling a puppet I also middleman sold for him. Then he got banned on here and recalled that account (I’m sure he saw it on asura). He had changed his discord name to that toons name also.

Again, I was hyper conscious of who I was working with and I wasn’t buying and selling any volume of accounts, that was much rarer for me. Again, these experience have led to my stepping away from that market. Just wish the negative feedback was against him, I’d take neutral feedback for my role.

 

[Hellish v.2]

Ultimately I’d like to see if the account can be recovered. At the end of the day you lost an account you invested time into. My negative feedback matters less than seeing if something can be done. If I’m mistaken of the circumstances then leave the feedback and let’s work to connect with SE and try the information we have (registration codes being key).

 

[MrBig168]

I already did. I even provide my certified passport ID and the Credit card screen shot to prove that it was me playing the account for 3 years.

but the SE gave me the same answer. If i want to retrieve the account, I need to provide the original certified ID when the account was registered which

is Oriostoteles 's ID. otherwise they can not help me and do anything about it. It's their regulation. Any account buying or selling is prohibited.


I paid $250 for the account and spent years of playing it. I got many master jobs and aeonic. the account should be worth like $600. But in my past experience,

and knowledge, Epic won't compensate me like that. so it should be that I spent $250 and only me and Hellish are left in this matter. So everyone should takes half loss which is $125.

 

[Hellish v.2]

Not much I can do when you play a toon for four years and a dude that had decent feedback and a fine reputation recalls an account because he got caught stealing another. He’s banned here. I aided in that. Was hoping since that was the case I’d get neutral feedback. I need the other account I middlemanned OOs banned on here also. If you feel you exhausted the process with SE I’ll touch base with this other guy and see if the same is true. Let me know what you decide epic.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

I feel a neutral feedback is fair here. The account had no issues for four years, unfortunately account recalls even years later are a risk when buying online accounts.