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You decide. MD - pwnd1337 // AIM - pbbowler14 | "Its out of my hands"

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You decide. MD - pwnd1337 // AIM - pbbowler14 | "Its out of my hands"

Todays MD Community, I see more and more every day people with 1-10 positive rep, Going scammer status, Could this be another? Basicly, Lets all sell accounts, give the wrong last name, then 1 month later recall it and say! Oh! Its out of my hands now!




Ok. Lets go into details

Been a long time sense I had a scammer thread. Because as most of you know, I have a strict buying process for people with no rep, and with little rep.


Jan 3rd, pwnd1337//pbbowler14 came to me wanting to sell an account, So I go about it as usually do, and the result was me buying. So I had the account sitting in my stock. Well, almost a month later, Recalled. I'm usually not the first one to jump at it and be like ZMOG YOU SCAMMER. So I decide every blue moon, Ill try to call it in and maybe get it back to see what happens if its recalled AGAIN. And geuss what? Wrong last name. I have many logs, Lets start with the oldest to newest.



pbbowler14 (2:38:24 PM): hey, just saw your post for your 80 shaman, was wondering if you buy accounts as well? bunch of the repliers said you did
strikerjojo (2:38:38 PM): ya
strikerjojo (2:38:48 PM): I got a big WTB all 70+ thread
strikerjojo (2:38:52 PM): aint been bumped in a while
pbbowler14 (2:38:58 PM): ah
pbbowler14 (2:39:31 PM): well ive got a 73 Orc Hunter i'd like to sell. Im multiboxing 4 shaman now so i wont be needing him anymore
strikerjojo (2:39:54 PM): ya got rep on md?
pbbowler14 (2:40:15 PM): just posted on ur shammy thread, im TWV, as well as paypal verified
pbbowler14 (2:40:26 PM): pwnd1337 is my MD name
strikerjojo (2:41:00 PM): alright
strikerjojo (2:41:05 PM): lemme take a look gimmie a few seconds gonan finish something
pbbowler14 (2:41:17 PM): ok, il get the armory link
pbbowler14 (2:41:48 PM): http://www.mywowarmory.com/asdasdasdasdasd
strikerjojo (2:47:33 PM): could do 100 bucks
pbbowler14 (2:49:19 PM): hmm
pbbowler14 (2:50:18 PM): i think i can live with that
strikerjojo (2:51:12 PM): Alright
strikerjojo (2:51:15 PM): jus swing me info whenever your ready
pbbowler14 (2:51:27 PM): k 2 secs
pbbowler14 (2:53:03 PM): first name: Haasdasdasdasd
Last name: asdasdasd
Username: aaaasdasdasda
Password: wasdasdasdad
Question: Pets name
answer: doasdasda

pbbowler14 (2:53:20 PM): my paypal is [email protected]
strikerjojo (2:53:36 PM): k one sec
strikerjojo (2:53:40 PM): lemme finish this quest
pbbowler14 (2:53:45 PM): aight hehe
strikerjojo (2:59:04 PM): k
strikerjojo (2:59:07 PM): go ahead and swing me the real armory.
pbbowler14 (2:59:43 PM): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xmasdfasfasfsadf
strikerjojo (3:00:55 PM): This account safe?
pbbowler14 (3:00:59 PM): yessir
strikerjojo (3:01:06 PM): Still has a paypal pasyment on it.
pbbowler14 (3:01:13 PM): o my bad lol
pbbowler14 (3:01:15 PM): thats mine
pbbowler14 (3:01:22 PM): lemme take that off
strikerjojo (3:01:27 PM): sec
strikerjojo (3:01:38 PM): go ahead
strikerjojo (3:01:41 PM): and confirm the email confirmation
strikerjojo (3:01:43 PM): then take it off
pbbowler14 (3:01:47 PM): k
pbbowler14 (3:03:01 PM): to remove the paypal just cancel account right? then you can add w/e u want
strikerjojo (3:03:09 PM): here
strikerjojo (3:03:11 PM): ill take it off
pbbowler14 (3:03:22 PM): aight well email is changed
strikerjojo (3:04:01 PM): k its canceled
strikerjojo (3:04:01 PM): remeber
strikerjojo (3:04:06 PM): go to your paypal and cancel your subscription
pbbowler14 (3:04:10 PM): ya
strikerjojo (3:05:25 PM): Alright
strikerjojo (3:05:27 PM): your name and #
pbbowler14 (3:05:38 PM): brendon morris
pbbowler14 (3:05:44 PM): 902384902384092384902384 (fake # to protect)
pbbowler14 (3:06:31 PM): [email protected]
strikerjojo (3:07:15 PM): sent




Then I messaged him when I see its recalled and after I try and call and he gives the last name to me wrong.


strikerjojo (9:31:51 PM): Hey man, asdfasdf. The account you sold me, Recalled. Auto response from pbbowler14 (9:31:51 PM): Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here
pbbowler14 (9:33:48 PM): Whatb!!!
strikerjojo (9:34:11 PM): yeah. whenever you get back on the PC, lemme know so we can talk
pbbowler14 (9:38:22 PM): Idk wut to say
strikerjojo (9:38:53 PM): well ya need to either get ti back, or refund me, and ive tried to recall it before messaging you, And turns out the last name you gave me was wrong.
strikerjojo (9:39:55 PM): refund would probably be the best, due to the fact that the last name is wrong obiviously its an unsecure account
pbbowler14 (9:41:22 PM): Un secure my [censored]..i had that account for more than a month no problems
strikerjojo (9:43:26 PM): Welp, looks like our business is done then, Because im sitting here try to get it back and email isnt evne registered to it anymore, And I called, Wrong last name.
pbbowler14 (9:45:44 PM): Then maybe i misstyped what name did i give u?
strikerjojo (9:46:17 PM): Owners name: Hasdfasfasdfasdfasdf
strikerjojo (9:17:08 AM): Any news? Auto response from pbbowler14 (9:17:08 AM): Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here
Auto response from strikerjojo (9:17:08 AM): Exausted.

Leave your account info with me, and Ill be sure to wake up to qoute and get with you, Thanks!

-Striker
Previous message was not received by pbbowler14 because of error (9:17:08 AM): User pbbowler14 is not available.






Then today.





strikerjojo (9:17:08 AM): Any news?
Auto response from pbbowler14 (9:17:08 AM): Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here


Auto response from strikerjojo (9:17:08 AM): Exausted.

Leave your account info with me, and Ill be sure to wake up to qoute and get with you, Thanks!

-Striker

Previous message was not received by pbbowler14 because of error (9:17:08 AM): User pbbowler14 is not available.

pbbowler14 (11:25:50 AM): Ive looked thru all my stuff and that was the only last name i was given.
strikerjojo (11:26:01 AM): And who did you get it from?
Auto response from pbbowler14 (11:26:01 AM): Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here

strikerjojo (11:26:03 AM): Got some ID's?
pbbowler14 (11:27:39 AM): That qas all i had
pbbowler14 (11:27:57 AM): Was
pbbowler14 (11:29:59 AM):
Im srry if it was recalled but after the month i had it and however long you have had it for it is out of my hands

strikerjojo (11:33:42 AM): I boughti t on the 3rd, so 29 days or so is out of your hands eh?
pbbowler14 (11:34:41 AM):
Ya.....how could it be in my control

strikerjojo (11:34:59 AM): So your not going to refund or get it back?
strikerjojo (11:35:12 AM): even after you give me an accoutn that has the wrong name?
pbbowler14 (11:35:34 AM):
How can i get it back? As far as i knew all the info was correct

strikerjojo (11:35:55 AM): Im sorry, but dealing with goods, if you give someone false information, that usually means a refund.
pbbowler14 (11:36:55 AM):
Well i did not know the info was false.you could have checked it that day and a refund would not have been a problem

strikerjojo (11:37:32 AM): Why would I call blizzard the day I bought it to check if it last name is right, So basicly what your saying, Everyone sell an account with the wrong last name, then wait 29 days to recall it, so its "our of your hands"
pbbowler14 (11:37:56 AM):
No.

strikerjojo (11:38:05 AM): You say no. But your going to do nothing about it?
pbbowler14 (11:38:34 AM):
You tell me how i can get it back and i will do it

strikerjojo (11:38:56 AM): Umm.. Contact the scammer which you got it from? Or give a refund?
pbbowler14 (11:40:50 AM):
I dont even remember who i bought it from

strikerjojo (11:41:07 AM): Wow.
pbbowler14 (11:41:34 AM):
Its been 2 months..

strikerjojo (11:41:55 AM): .. I bought it on the 3rd of january, Its not feburary 1st, How is that 2 months?
pbbowler14 (11:42:32 AM):
I told u ihad it for a month before i sold to you

strikerjojo (11:42:48 AM): and I'm spose to believe that? Obviously you didnt if the last name is wrong
pbbowler14 (11:43:37 AM):
I did....i have no reaaon to lie. If u dont believe me w/e

strikerjojo (11:44:21 AM): I dont.
strikerjojo (11:44:33 AM): Anyway, Im putting up a thread, Ill link when done for you to defend yourself.
pbbowler14 (11:46:04 AM):
Im not going to cause this isnt my fault or my problem.the account was secure for more than a month. So do whatever u want cause MD means nothing to me

strikerjojo (11:47:51 AM): Thats fine, But everyone needs to know of you if they wanna do business with someone that gives the wrong last name then wont refund.
pbbowler14 (11:50:16 AM):
I dont use MD anymore so go ahead waste ur time and vent aboit me

strikerjojo (11:50:59 AM): This isnt venting
strikerjojo (11:51:00 AM): Its warning.
strikerjojo (11:51:16 AM): Venting would be me going on and crying about it. Im just letting everyone know.
pbbowler14 (11:53:29 AM):
W/e dude. I wont be on that site anyway
strikerjojo (11:53:50 AM): Probably proves more that you purposly give me the wrong last name
pbbowler14 (11:54:52 AM):
No.not at all. If i had [censored] known it was false i wouldnt have sold it. I wouldnt ruin my rep over 60bux

strikerjojo (11:55:00 AM): 60?
strikerjojo (11:55:04 AM): It was 100.
pbbowler14 (11:55:51 AM):
W/e.means nothing now





I dont know about you guys. But when the last name given to the account is wrong, Im pretty sure that means compensate or refund. Even the way he goes about "I dont care, I wont be on that site anyway", Pretty much proves it in my eyes he meant to do this.

Already trying to get funds back via paypal. Anyway, Id love to hear you alls feedback, I highly suggest avoid this user.
 
Re: You decide. MD - pwnd1337 // AIM - pbbowler14 | "Its out of my hands"

And his result...


strikerjojo (11:58:34 AM): http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2238723#Post2238723
strikerjojo (11:58:36 AM): There you are.
pbbowler14 (11:59:14 AM):
W/e lol im not gonna bother



Ban hammer please? Or are we just gonna let users with some rep go around and scam and not even care?
 
Re: You decide. MD - pwnd1337 // AIM - pbbowler14 | "Its out of my hands"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strikerjojo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont know about you guys. But when the last name given to the account is wrong, Im pretty sure that means compensate or refund. Even the way he goes about "I dont care, I wont be on that site anyway", Pretty much proves it in my eyes he meant to do this.

Already trying to get funds back via paypal. Anyway, Id love to hear you alls feedback, I highly suggest avoid this user.
</div></div>
In my opinion, a refund is MANDATORY. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. This guy has a VERY non-chalant attitude about the whole thing and it is very clear that this scam was intended. He was trying to play dumb and failed miserably at it.

I am sorry for your loss SJ and I hope that things come full circle for this idiot.
 
Re: You decide. MD - pwnd1337 // AIM - pbbowler14 | "Its out of my hands"

I want to make it clear right now...I NEVER...EVER..intended to scam anyone. The real scammer is the person who sold me the account.

YES I DID sell jojo an unsecured account...but I DID NOT KNOW it was unsecured. I had the account for more than a month. Whether or not you believe me is neither here nor there.

I take responsibility for selling JoJo an unsecured account.If I was better at detecting a scam, this would have never happened.

I take responsibility for being a [censored]. Its not that I didn't want to refund Striker. I could not afford to.I just knew that if I said that he would have disputed anyway. I have talked to him and regardless of the outcome of the dispute, I will be refunding him the full price.

I am not a scammer nor have i ever been. this was a huge mistake that could have been easily avoided.I was irresponsible and Striker was rightfully accusative, with me not having a ton of rep and whatnot, and then this.

Oh. And Knucklehead00...We have never done business or even spoken to each other so don't act like you knew my intentions.

so there's my 2 cents. take it or leave it.
 
Wow, not to resurrect an old thread or anything, but can you just reply that I did actually refund that payment almost 2 years ago lol... i was pretty immature about the whole thing and as I have recently started doing business again as well as this thread being the first related post to my new thread I dont want potential customers reading this and thinking "omg scammer screw this". I also will be levelling the accounts myself so the info on them will always be correct guranteed.
 
I'd contact Striker Via AIM as im sure hes probably not monitoring scammer section since this was so long ago.
 
And his result...


strikerjojo (11:58:34 AM): UBB Message - MD WoW AION FFXI Darkfall WoT news and more
strikerjojo (11:58:36 AM): There you are.
pbbowler14 (11:59:14 AM):
W/e lol im not gonna bother

What happened to you weren't going to bother? Or MD not meaning anythong to you... Apparently it does... Hope everything turns out in your favor Stricker. It seems to me someone is just lying and lying *cough*Pwn*cough* But thats just my two sense.
 
What happened to you weren't going to bother? Or MD not meaning anythong to you... Apparently it does... Hope everything turns out in your favor Stricker. It seems to me someone is just lying and lying *cough*Pwn*cough* But thats just my two sense.

Striker was already refunded for this mishap long ago. I was just replying to this thread to ask him to state that so people who might want to do business with me can see that although I made a big mistake by not checking the last name right away and by not refunding striker right away as well as saying MD meant nothing to me which wasnt true in the first place. I just wanted to act like it never happened but I cant do that. To those of you that have seen scammer after scammer I'm sure you think I'm just full of ****. The truth of the matter is I want to try and make up for my past mistakes by showing you all how trustworthy I am. Everyone makes mistakes and I'm no different. I dont deny whatsoever what I did was wrong all I want is a second chance.
 
Striker was already refunded for this mishap long ago. I was just replying to this thread to ask him to state that so people who might want to do business with me can see that although I made a big mistake by not checking the last name right away and by not refunding striker right away as well as saying MD meant nothing to me which wasnt true in the first place. I just wanted to act like it never happened but I cant do that. To those of you that have seen scammer after scammer I'm sure you think I'm just full of ****. The truth of the matter is I want to try and make up for my past mistakes by showing you all how trustworthy I am. Everyone makes mistakes and I'm no different. I dont deny whatsoever what I did was wrong all I want is a second chance.
Well that's good bro. As long as you refunded him and hope to do proper and fair business then by all means a second chance should be given. Hope your Trading and selling goes well. Let's just hope an Incident like this doesn't hope again and if it does your more mature about it PWN. If you ever need someone to Vouch let me know, seems you changed your act and want to make trades and sells so its only fair for a second chance after all you did reinburse stricken. GL :)
 
Thanks man I appreciate it. I have always hoped to do proper business and I'm in the process of levelling some fresh accounts myself so atleast I know none of the account info can be wrong lol. After that I plan to buy and resell and I learned my lesson as far as choosing who to buy from goes.
 
well considering your account isn't banned, that should be proof enough it was resolved. I'll keep this open for 48 hrs for strikerjojo to confirm, but if not Im closing this.
 
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