Yirps charged back 200$ on paypal after I sold him account

FBUser93549359 · Apr 17, 2021

this was through trade guardian with the MM 'useeds'

he claimed "the credentials on the account were changed last night while I was gone and I no longer have access to the account"

which is impossible since he has the email details now.

Will be making a ticket with riot to get back the account if he doesn't fix the chargeback today.

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

You literally already have the account man! I can’t access the account at all so clearly either you already recovered it with Riot or the original owner did. I’m charging back the PayPal unless you give the credentials back

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

I did receive a password reset the night of buying the account that I did not initiate.

FBUser93549359 · Apr 18, 2021

Pretty obvious what's going on here. He didn't even think about messaging me first before initiating a chargeback on paypal. Any normal person is going to ask the seller before going to such drastic measures. Claims I changed account details yesterday, but it looks like he was able to change the valorant account name to Yirps#Yirps a hour ago and he literally played a game of valorant today at 6PM.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/2032bcf6-03c9-4ebf-a995-f6c7ada18718?handle=Yirps#Yirps

Split Competitive
32m 02s 04/17/21, 06:46 PM

He was able to lose 4 straight games on the account, which demotes the competitive rank on the account making it worth less money as well.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Yirps#Yirps/overview

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

You’re pretty good hacking back into the account and playing more games on it AFTER I changed my information. Pretty sad you do this for a living, attempting to scam people and then get them banned from trading platforms for legitimately disputing because you get the accounts back. I guess I should have known with a username like yours you would scam.

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

I literally wasn’t even home today to play a game of Valorant on the account.

FBUser93549359 · Apr 18, 2021

Yirps said:
I did receive a password reset the night of buying the account that I did not initiate.

You can initiate your own password reset since you clearly have the email on the account so this means absolutely nothing.

Yirps said:
You’re pretty good hacking back into the account and playing more games on it AFTER I changed my information. Pretty sad you do this for a living, attempting to scam people and then get them banned from trading platforms for legitimately disputing because you get the accounts back. I guess I should have known with a username like yours you would scam.

This is where it's obvious you're lying through your teeth. Since you have the email on the account I would have to make a support ticket to riot games which takes at LEAST a couple days to retrieve the account. It's literally impossible to get the account back that fast and you used the words 'hacking back the account' which makes absolutely no sense.

I have this kids personal information with those emails and just waiting on an admin to ban him so I can retrieve the account back.

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

Enjoy the ****ing account you loser. PayPal Case Dispute was closed last night and I’m not fighting it with my bank because I literally don’t have time to waste to prove some fat **** framed me for “scamming” a Valorant account worth 200 lousy dollars. You’re a virgin and if you do this for a living I really do feel bad for you. Whenever an admit reads this, feel free to just delete my account because I’ll never be coming back to the website.

FBUser93549359 · Apr 18, 2021

Yirps said:
Enjoy the ****ing account you loser. PayPal Case Dispute was closed last night and I’m not fighting it with my bank because I literally don’t have time to waste to prove some fat **** framed me for “scamming” a Valorant account worth 200 lousy dollars. You’re a virgin and if you do this for a living I really do feel bad for you. Whenever an admit reads this, feel free to just delete my account because I’ll never be coming back to the website.

haha dumb kid realized there's no logical response to my last reply, it's alright buddy being ugly irl isn't really that bad of an issue.. i can recommend you some plastic surgeons

imagine thinking i do this for a living when i have +7 feedback over a span of almost 3 years

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

Like at this point I'm just curious because I know no matter what I say it's not going to change the outcome and I actually don't have the account anymore. Were you the original owner of that account or no? You can keep the 200 but it's actually gone. Like I said I'm not fighting that chargeback so at this point it should be settled. Whether you took the account back yourself or it was the original owner, I actually don't have the account. I played 3 games on the 16th when I got it but I didn't play yesterday because I wasn't home.

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

Of course its going to show that "I" played because I changed the name to Yirps. Yes, I did get access to it for a period of time but then the account was recovered and the password was changed. Like I don't know what else to say to that

FBUser93549359 · Apr 18, 2021

Yirps said:
Like at this point I'm just curious because I know no matter what I say it's not going to change the outcome and I actually don't have the account anymore. Were you the original owner of that account or no? You can keep the 200 but it's actually gone. Like I said I'm not fighting that chargeback so at this point it should be settled. Whether you took the account back yourself or it was the original owner, I actually don't have the account. I played 3 games on the 16th when I got it but I didn't play yesterday because I wasn't home.

Keep bullish!tting lol, my paypal is literally still -200 and the name was changed the day after you claimed to have not played. Also have never played raze in my life and you’ve played it twice on the account so far on the 16th and 17th.

Yirps · Apr 18, 2021

How would you know what I changed the name to? Just curious? If you didn’t have any access to the account?

Yirps · Apr 19, 2021

Proof that the case is closed. Enjoy the money and the account (because I actually dont ****ing have it). Also, would appreciate it if you could stop spamming both my god damn emails. Enjoy Los Angeles too there pal hope the weathers nice

EpicNPC CM · Apr 20, 2021

@FBUser93549359 Are you the original owner?

Please post original sales thread and please confirm you have received a refund.

FBUser93549359 · Apr 20, 2021

EpicNPC CM said:
@FBUser93549359 Are you the original owner?

Please post original sales thread and please confirm you have received a refund.

Yes, account is still negative. Don't understand how you believe his words at all. Guy types "Whenever an admit reads this, feel free to just delete my account because I’ll never be coming back to the website." then proceeds to come back after his paypal supposedly declines his charge back. There mere fact that he never tried to resolve this account issue through private messages before initiating a charge back tells me all I need to know.

Yirps said:
Proof that the case is closed. Enjoy the money and the account (because I actually dont ****ing have it). Also, would appreciate it if you could stop spamming both my god damn emails. Enjoy Los Angeles too there pal hope the weathers nice

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not in Los Angeles by the way dumbass, i'm in orange county

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

This guy clearly is the original owner if he is saying things like “ I have this kids personal information with those emails and just waiting on an admin to ban him so I can retrieve the account back”. Which means He easily could have already retrieved the account back and is literally trying to frame me for scamming him out of 200 dollars that I am going to lose out on anyways.
He signed me up for a bunch of mailing lists as well because he’s mad that I’m calling him out for scamming me

Like I have proven, the case is closed on the PayPal chargeback. If I had access to the account I wouldn’t be here cause this much of a hassle for anyone. He recovered the account literally hours after I bought it. I never played at all on the 17th of April because I wasn’t even home (and again, how would you know what the name was changed to if you didn’t have access to the account??? Precise name and all to look up the game details)

FBUser93549359 · Apr 20, 2021

Like I have stated in a previous post which you clearly ignored.

This is where it's obvious you're lying through your teeth. Since you have the email on the account I would have to make a support ticket to riot games which takes at LEAST a couple days to retrieve the account. It's literally impossible to get the account back that fast and you used the words 'hacking back the account' which makes absolutely no sense.

It's funny because you thought you would be able to get away with changing the name so I wouldn't know you have played games after charging back on paypal. Are people this retarded?

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

Also if I had access to the account you would think I would be playing on it right??? If I would have came to you what would you have done about me not being to log in? If you aren’t the original owner then how was the account recovered? There hasn’t been a game since I called you out besides you playing one the next day. Why would I be sitting here fighting this if I had access to the account? I would be playing the ****ing game LOL. It’s been 3 days since the last game and it’s because I don’t have credentials to the account.

Admin, I proved that the case has closed for PayPal, I can provide a screenshot of the payment in my bank statements if needed, but I refuse to let this guy try and claim that I scammed him because in reality it’s the other way around. Whether you guys can do anything about me losing $200 and the account is beyond me but at this point I’m just stating facts of what has happened.

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

FBUser93549359 said:
Like I have stated in a previous post which you clearly ignored.

This is where it's obvious you're lying through your teeth. Since you have the email on the account I would have to make a support ticket to riot games which takes at LEAST a couple days to retrieve the account. It's literally impossible to get the account back that fast and you used the words 'hacking back the account' which makes absolutely no sense.

It's funny because you thought you would be able to get away with changing the name so I wouldn't know you have played games after charging back on paypal. Are people this retarded?

It does not take a couple days to retrieve the account. You can literally submit this information below and recover the RIOT account. I don't know what the sign up email was, I don't know what the oldest email was either. So for you to say it's impossible is completely false.

You recovered the account back after you sold it to me and now you are trying to say that I scammed you. Of course I am going to chargeback because you didn't hold up your end of the deal. I'm not just going to come and ask you "Hey why can't I log in anymore?" because its clear you recovered it. If I'm not fighting the payment at this point, why don't you give me the credentials again then?

If this guy is the original owner of the account then he easily could have recovered it because he has access to that original email used to create it.

1. How did you know the username I changed it to? I never provided you that information in any way shape or form? Which by the way I changed it on the 16th - as all three games I played showed Yirps instead of whatever the original name on the account name was.
2. Why would you say to just ban me so you can retrieve the account? So you know how to do that then?
3. I provided the screenshot of the password reset that I did not initiate the night of the 16th after I was done playing.

Below is the RIOT recovery account form. Take a look admin

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

Here is proof that the account "humanbitcoin" is no longer associated to the email I signed up with

This is proof I changed the username literally the morning I got the account, not later on. Which again - how would he have any idea what I changed it to?????

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

Oh, and here's proof that you can automatically recover your account without submitting a ticket to RIOT if you have the original information

Yirps · Apr 20, 2021

EpicNPC CM said:
@FBUser93549359 Are you the original owner?

Please post original sales thread and please confirm you have received a refund.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-diamond-1-with-335-skins-ruin-glitchpop-daggers.1917547/

original thread for you

FBUser93549359 · Apr 21, 2021

Yirps said:
You recovered the account back after you sold it to me and now you are trying to say that I scammed you. Of course I am going to chargeback because you didn't hold up your end of the deal. I'm not just going to come and ask you "Hey why can't I log in anymore?" because its clear you recovered it. If I'm not fighting the payment at this point, why don't you give me the credentials again then?

haha you're such a joke it's insane. what kind of excuse is that? Just immediately charging back when you're dealing with someone with MULTIPLE positive feedbacks that has had at least 6 other accounts sold for at LEAST 200$ each on this website since 2018. Anyone not trying to scam would give me a quick message to see what has transpired before taking the chargeback route since all you need to do is click a button to chargeback lol. I am friends with @METAMMO and have sold him at least 3 200$+ valorant immortal/radiant accounts I could have taken back as the original owner. Paypal is still -$200 and I know you are a pathological liar.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Yirps#Yirps/overview

this kid has literally played 2 more games yesterday and I will now be submitting a form to get the account back

good luck maybe you can scam some other dumb kid, not gonna waste another minute with this degenerate

Yirps · Apr 21, 2021

FBUser93549359 said:
haha you're such a joke it's insane. what kind of excuse is that? Just immediately charging back when you're dealing with someone with MULTIPLE positive feedbacks that has had at least 6 other accounts sold for at LEAST 200$ each on this website since 2018. Anyone not trying to scam would give me a quick message to see what has transpired before taking the chargeback route since all you need to do is click a button to chargeback lol. I am friends with @METAMMO and have sold him at least 3 200$+ valorant immortal/radiant accounts I could have taken back as the original owner. Paypal is still -$200 and I know you are a pathological liar.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Yirps#Yirps/overview

this kid has literally played 2 more games yesterday and I will now be submitting a form to get the account back

good luck maybe you can scam some other dumb kid, not gonna waste another minute with this degenerate

Peter - were you the original owner of the account, or not? If you weren't then the actual owner could have easily recovered the account already.

The Paypal case is closed and they are probably holding on to the money so why don't you contact them. The charge hit my bank on the 16th. And that could easily be an old screenshot. I love how you are coming after me calling me a pathological liar for literally nothing at this point since I have already proven the case is closed and you get to keep the money.

I don't have access to the account so if it's not you and it's not me then it's probably the actual original owner of the account. I refuse to let you call me a scammer and I just find it ironic after I call out that there has been no games played in the last three days, there are magically three more that appear on trackergg. Of course you are going to say its me because the account is in my name.

I don't know man, just sad at this point this thread has gone on this long.

EpicNPC CM · Apr 22, 2021

@Yirps please take a video of your Paypal transactions and show this transaction, you can send it to me via PM or you can post it here and use the hide tag.

Once we know the dispute is closed and know where the funds are going/not going we can move forward.

Yirps · Apr 22, 2021

Here is a video showing proof of payment. I put it on youtube and made it private to only those that have a link, so once this is resolved I will delete.

I've come to realize with these Valorant accounts I need access to the original email. Did not know they could be so easily recovered but I wasn't trying to scam. I charged back because I was pissed the account was taken from me like any other person would do when they have been scammed. Not letting this college kid use his 8 feedbacks in 3 years to try and take me down and frame me when he was the one that recovered it and tried to place the blame on me. Still hasn't answered if he is the original owner which makes it pretty obvious it was him, and his statements of him saying he is just going to recover it anyways. Again, why wouldn't have he done it already before this altercation started? Just keeps deflecting all the questions and trying to place it back on me.

I'll cut my losses on this one.

Mitch

EpicNPC CM · Apr 23, 2021

The video shows the dispute was closed on PayPal's end, so it's possible that the money is currently being held by Paypal. One of you can try contacting paypal about the transaction to confirm this.

Please confirm whether or not you are the original owner @FBUser93549359

EpicNPC CM · Apr 26, 2021

@FBUser93549359 update please

EpicNPC CM · Apr 29, 2021

@FBUser93549359 email notified

Yirps · Apr 29, 2021

I will not be contacting paypal to determine if he receives his money.

Clearly if he has not responded for this long the account is already recovered and he's keeping the money too. Not much else to discuss

EpicNPC CM · May 1, 2021

Since no response we will ban until they return.

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