xXxNickoxXx scammer

[rogue1337]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/428804-need-mod-decision-deal-3.html

Information
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Date that scamming took place: 12,14,2010
Method of Contact Used: aim
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: xxxnickxnick
Your Instant Messenger ID: mknyz
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: xXxNickoxXx


Scam Information
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What was scammed?: cata key
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...-sell/407236-battlechest-wotlk-cataclysm.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $38usd

Was a middleman used?: no
If yes, who?: no
Describe how you were scammed: he agreed he would trade his org,tbc,wotlk key for my cata key which i purchased when he agreed to the deal but when i told him to give key first he said no and continued to make exucses that i have no rep. when i have done many deals and key transactions before with no problem. he saids he will not give key unless i go first. ..to a 0 rep kid?? no way lol
Other details / notes:

Proof
Proof You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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Chat Logs:

Nick Na (xXxNickxNick) is available 8:42 pm
MKNYZ (8:42:14 PM): hi
Nick Na (8:42:21 PM): hello
MKNYZ (8:42:25 PM): you still got battle chest keys for cata
MKNYZ (8:42:42 PM): org/tbc/wotlk for my cata
MKNYZ (8:42:55 PM): i can buy 1 now
Nick Na (8:43:01 PM): did you posted
MKNYZ (8:43:12 PM): http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-items-trading-auctions-buy-sell/407236-battlechest-wotlk-cataclysm.html
MKNYZ (8:43:13 PM): ua
MKNYZ (8:43:15 PM): yep
Nick Na (8:43:29 PM): ok
Nick Na (8:43:35 PM): Yea I still do
MKNYZ (8:44:10 PM): ok so you got all 3 keys working?
MKNYZ (8:44:12 PM): where did u get them
Nick Na (8:44:23 PM): wotlk walmart
Nick Na (8:44:27 PM): battlechest bestbuy
Nick Na (8:44:52 PM): I got the battle chest for 20$
Nick Na (8:44:56 PM): and wotlk 25
MKNYZ (8:45:07 PM): ok let me get a cata 2 mins
Nick Na (8:45:11 PM): ok
MKNYZ (8:49:03 PM): k sec making my account
MKNYZ (8:49:07 PM): got key
Nick Na (8:50:09 PM): ok
MKNYZ (8:53:16 PM): ok
MKNYZ (8:53:31 PM): send me the keys
Nick Na (8:54:11 PM): sorry its not going to work like that. I got scammed 4 times in the past week. I have 3 paypals charge back and I lost a wotlk key.
Nick Na (8:54:24 PM): the only way id agree to go first is if you had alot of rep
Nick Na (8:54:27 PM): I am sorry
MKNYZ (8:54:31 PM): ..? so how do u want it
Nick Na (8:54:31 PM): good luck trading your key.
MKNYZ (8:54:35 PM): i have 10 rep u have 0
Nick Na (8:54:52 PM): 10 means nothing i could probably manage getting as much just by messaging ppl.
Nick Na (8:55:02 PM): I understand I have no rep
MKNYZ (8:55:06 PM): ok np reporting you wasting my cata key
Nick Na (8:55:17 PM): ill just wait until a highly repped member message me
Nick Na (8:55:26 PM): report me lol
MKNYZ (8:55:47 PM): good luck getting someone to give you key first
Nick Na (8:55:57 PM): I have no problem going first
Nick Na (8:56:00 PM): with someone repped
Nick Na (8:56:08 PM): since you are not
Nick Na (8:56:09 PM): sorry
Nick Na (8:56:13 PM): not losing another 50$
MKNYZ (8:56:56 PM): so you should of said something b4 i got the key
MKNYZ (8:57:07 PM): im not dumb i dont give first to 0 rep kids
Nick Na (8:57:23 PM): Your close to 0 also so I aint dumb either.
MKNYZ (8:57:40 PM): LOL
MKNYZ (8:58:13 PM): 506 post 1 year memeber>u
Nick Na (8:58:25 PM): 10 rep
MKNYZ (8:58:32 PM): +that
Nick Na (8:58:33 PM): comeback to me when you get 50+
Nick Na (8:58:40 PM): it will be a pleasure to go first
Nick Na (8:58:42 PM): since then
Nick Na (8:58:44 PM): sorry but no
Nick Na (8:59:01 PM): I am not trying to scam you or be a dickhead
Nick Na (8:59:07 PM): I am just trying to protect something that is mine
Nick Na (8:59:17 PM): Ive learned my lesson this week
Nick Na (8:59:29 PM): I am new to trading stuff and I got scammed few times like I said
Nick Na (8:59:40 PM): hopefully paypal will give me back those chargebacks
Nick Na (8:59:44 PM): but I still lost a wotlk key
Nick Na (8:59:53 PM): wich is pissing me off right now
Nick Na (8:59:56 PM): I hope you understand
Nick Na (8:59:58 PM): sorry dude
Nick Na (9:00:01 PM): and gl trading your key

Pictures/Screenshots:can screen shot aim upon request
Other proof:

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: no
Have you traded with this person before?: no
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?: 25+ over 1+year




other info: notice he said he was sscammed before on the aim? i checked his post history and i see no scam reported. he either a return ban member which is very likely or a bad liar.

 

[xXxNickoxXx]

I am sorry but you never mentioned the way we were going to trade. You said brb going to get a cata key. I did not scam anything from you because you still have your cata key. This is stupid and giving me bad rep. Like i said I am just trying to have a legit trade and basically you have no rep. Ive seen TWV members getting banned and I should trust a guy with +10? I am sorry but its not going to happen. Like I stated you did not agree on going first and I am completely ok with that. As I said, I will just wait for someone repped enough to message me so I can go first. Also you can notice I never asked you to go first. I just said sorry it wont work like that and ill wait for a repped memeber to message me so I can be sure this is 100% safe.

 

[rogue1337]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/428804-need-mod-decision-deal-3.html

can you explain how you were scammed 4 times and got charged back 3 times in a week? with such a new account? and just 9 posts?

 

[xXxNickoxXx]

I am the one who did chargebacks. 3 people from mmowned messaged me to buy a cata key from me (I was selling them for a guy and he told me if I can sell 5 of them for 40 each he will give me one for free) I lost those 3 keys the way I never agreed going first but it was some people like you, pretending they have rep buy with like 5-10 rep and they recalled the money. The other guy was an impersonator ("v v" herteroriginal) he got my aim from my post and did not posted like I said.

I am done arguing with you sorry. Instead of wasting your time here go sell or trade your cata key. Like i said with all your rep it shouldnt be that hard.

---------- Post added 12-14-2010 at 09:49 PM ----------

I wanted to say I am the one who got charged back*** Edit post dosnt work for some reason.

 

[rogue1337]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/428804-need-mod-decision-deal-3.html

3 people from mmowned messaged me to buy a cata key from me

so you are selling 5 cata keys. then why do you want to buy them ? (link below)

dont make sense?

you post in "wts" threads:
http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...k-play-when-server-go-live-2.html#post2346814
and http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...ey-$37-must-paypal-confirmed.html#post2346740

(I was selling them for a guy and he told me if I can sell 5 of them for 40 each he will give me one for free)

i dont see your "wts cata key" threads. stop lying.

I lost those 3 keys the way I never agreed going first but it was some people like you,

nice , lose them just like that without posting in scammer thread and accuse the scammers.

The other guy was an impersonator ("v v" herteroriginal) he got my aim from my post and did not posted like I said.

Believable.
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basically what i see is a returned banned member not being able to afford cata key and he tries to scam one by either "buying" it or trading his "battle chest" for one.

 

[xXxNickoxXx]

I wasnt selling them on any forum. Do you know what xfire is? give me your xfire and ill then give you the xfire of the guy. The world of trading and selling wow related stuff is not only restricted to mmobay idiot.

Its hard to post when its not something that happened on this forums lol. I will look exactly like you, like an idiot if I post that I got scammed by some random dude. The admins will be like wth we dont give a ****.

http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scam-busters/407217-scammer-cataclysmkeys-have-proof.html

here is for the v vherteroriginal part. If needed (FOR THE ADMINS NOT FOR YOU) I can get the logs and post them here. But he is already banned so whats the point of posting. He got banned right when I was about to make a thread.


Basically like I said, you are an illiterate ****. I had a deal with a guy if I sell 5 cata keys for him he will give me one for free. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I WAS SELLING CATA KEYS. They were not mine and I am not a scammer so I did not steal any of those keys.

Again the admins can check my ip I am clean as ****.


You are just butthurt because you spent 38$ on a key. Grow up ****** and sell it to someone... WITH YOUR AMAZING "REP" IT SHOULD NOT BE SO HARD....

---------- Post added 12-14-2010 at 11:41 PM ----------

Basically the point of this topic is to get me banned because I said nvm I dont want to trade with you because you have no rep and you rushed me to go first. Like I said (ONE MORE TIME) I told you I dont want to trade with you because you have no rep and you want me to go first (I NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ASKED YOU TO GO FIRST) I just said nvm ill wait for a well repped memeber to pm me so I can be 100% sure I wont loose my goods. I have no rep at all and you dont have rep either so stop being a ****** and accept the fact that its hard to trust you (especially with your kid attitude).

I think your just mad because your scam attempt just failed.

---------- Post added 12-14-2010 at 11:43 PM ----------

kid has 10 rep and he thinks hes the ****. Grow up

---------- Post added 12-14-2010 at 11:46 PM ----------

also the thread I posted in it that I wanted to buy a cata key (Durkadur`s thread and the thread of 2 others guys) I can find the links if needed. I added them on aim asked for a price and told them I would get back to them as soon as I have the money.

You can notice that all of those guys are professional sellers and... I just wanted to know their price and you can all add them on aim and ask them. I told them as soon as I have the money ill get back to you.

---------- Post added 12-14-2010 at 11:49 PM ----------

Oh and also WTF WHy would I post something that happened on MMOWNED on the MMOBAY scammer section WTF lol....

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

XX mods gonna tell u this as well watch the language dude, and if ur not a scammer why are u so butt hurt?? quit qqing n just ignore him

 

[Zoefken]

Wouldn't you be butthurt if someone calls you a scammer and you did nothing except telling the person your not dealing in this way? Seriously people should stop but kissing people with rep and looking @ the pure logic. This shouldn't even be in the scammer section as there is clearly not been a scam.

 

[EpicNPC]

[WTS] Cataclysm & Gamecards

Basically the same conversation on MMOwned. How did you get scammed 3 times in the last week? From that post you refuse to go first on any deal in the last week, even with using a MM. fishy, fishy, fishy
Your other AIM is also tvvitch159874. Just an FYI for everyone.

Since nothing was actually scammed. Moving to scam busters.

 

[Whambulance]

THe following is a little excerpt from your post on MMOwned.

I just joined this forum yes. I linked you to my mmobay profile wich I am TRUST WHO VERIFIED and have like 30+ rep.

SO you openly admit to giving out false profile information? I don't see TWV or ANY rep regarding your profile. I'd like an explanation please.

 

[xXxNickoxXx]

what I never said I am TWV nor I have 30 rep... Where did you took that. I told him like 5 times I have no rep and I want to wait someone with high rep pms me so I can be safe to go first... I seriously have no idea where you took that. And also I never asked him to go first NEVER. I just said I dont want to deal with him because he has no reps and wants me to go first. I am not stupid and I know no one will go first with someone who has 8 posts.

 

[Whambulance]

You claimed that on mmowned. I have the full chat logs if you like. So yes you did claim that.