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Banned - Telling users to get cancer and die and all around foul behavior
Dispute Date: 8/15/2016
Method of Contact Used: Skype
instant Messanger of the person you're accusing: tooniestark
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: ToonieStark
Your Instant Messenger ID: jaeha2714
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? Money scammed
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/995899-Selling-Halo-5-Achilles-Account!
Approximate value of property: $40.00
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: Simply tried buying an account, got scammed.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
1. Video proof
- https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=4H-VUgHPuug
2. skype chat pic/paypal and so on
http://imgur.com/a/BBNIw (Paypal transaction)
http://imgur.com/a/mGhQ5 (Paypal Dispute)
http://imgur.com/a/kfEZT (Skype chat)
http://imgur.com/a/k7zmH (my skype ID page)
3. Chat log(ctrl c+v) (if the video wasn't real enough)
[오전 10:46:06] Toby: Yes I am.[오전 10:46:22] jaeha2714: do you have Indomitable armor sets unlocked?
[오전 10:46:34] Toby: What do you mean?
[오전 10:46:43] jaeha2714: Halo Reach armory
[오전 10:46:43] Toby: I have full Achilles and most legendary.
[오전 10:46:48] Toby: Oh yes
[오전 10:46:52] jaeha2714: the Jorge armor
[오전 10:46:56] Toby: Yes sir.
[오전 10:47:03] jaeha2714: Legendary visor too?
[오전 10:47:06] jaeha2714: like the Gold thing
[오전 10:47:17] jaeha2714: those two are the only thing that matters to me tbh
[오전 10:48:08] jaeha2714: how much are you thinking?
[오전 10:50:27] jaeha2714: there's this guy with level 147 (with all unlocks) + Doom, Destiny for 50 bucks
[오전 10:50:41] jaeha2714: I was wondering if we could go lower than him
[오전 10:50:48] jaeha2714: (link https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/988018-Halo-5-rank-146-and-more-(games)-cheap!)
[오전 10:58:59] Toby: That guy is a scammer. I am friends with LemonFresh he commented on the thread I believe.
[오전 10:59:12] Toby: He's verified and an Epic Member.
[오전 10:59:35] Toby: No one would sell all that for $50. Maybe the Halo account yes but not all of that.
[오전 10:59:42] jaeha2714: oh
[오전 10:59:51] jaeha2714: do you have any links to any thread about it?
[오전 11:00:37] jaeha2714: I mean, I'm not trying to doubt you
[오전 11:00:45] jaeha2714: just want to make sure if he's really a scammer
[오전 11:01:40] Toby: We speak often on Facebook
[오전 11:02:00] Toby: Yoy can if you want bro. Just a warning lol
[오전 11:02:04] Toby: You"
[오전 11:02:12] Toby: I wouldn't
[오전 11:02:20] jaeha2714: is that why Buy with Trade Guardian there for?
[오전 11:02:27] jaeha2714: isn't that*
[오전 11:02:48] jaeha2714: if I get a falsified account, I request refund. I thought that's how it worked
[오전 11:03:01] Toby: Haha. Yes but still. Yoy can if you want to
. I mean I can do $40 US but that's it.
[오전 11:03:12] jaeha2714: hmm
[오전 11:03:33] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:03:39] jaeha2714: but I'm still using Trade Guardian
[오전 11:03:44] Toby: Yup that's fine.
[오전 11:03:52] Toby: Do as you wish
[오전 11:05:21] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:05:35] jaeha2714: let me try to figure out how to purchase through Buy with Trade Guardian
[오전 11:05:43] jaeha2714: I'm only two days old in this site
[오전 11:05:55] jaeha2714: reason I'm trying to buy an account like this
[오전 11:06:02] jaeha2714: is because I'm obsessed with indomitable armor
[오전 11:06:06] jaeha2714: yet I cant get one
[오전 11:06:08] jaeha2714: level 31 very low
[오전 11:06:21] jaeha2714: don't really wanna invest so much time on playng grinding req
[오전 11:06:26] jaeha2714: which is not fun at all
[오전 11:06:35] jaeha2714: paying for req? no ******* thanks
[오전 11:06:52] jaeha2714: would take more than 1000 dollars to open all those gold packs to get indomintable
[오전 11:07:05] jaeha2714: so many armors that I don't give a **** in my way
[오전 11:08:12] Toby: Haha true. I mean I'm level 99 right now ( almost level 100 ). I bought 3 gold.packs and got the rest playing. Lol
[오전 11:09:54] jaeha2714: oh
[오전 11:09:54] jaeha2714: wtf
[오전 11:09:57] jaeha2714: there is fee?
[오전 11:10:03] Toby: Yes haha
[오전 11:10:06] jaeha2714: I see three options
[오전 11:10:08] Toby: Middleman service.
[오전 11:10:10] Toby: Lol
[오전 11:10:13] Toby: Always a fee
[오전 11:10:14] jaeha2714: can we split ?
[오전 11:10:46] Toby: That's why I never use it lol. If I buy something I escalade the claim to PayPal and get reimbursed in 3 days haha.
[오전 11:10:54] Toby: If the seller lied
[오전 11:11:03] jaeha2714: hmm
[오전 11:11:07] Toby: Only happens once to me with an PS4 account.
[오전 11:11:09] jaeha2714: I guess that's an option
[오전 11:11:12] Toby: A
[오전 11:11:39] Toby: Hey man. It's up to you. What ever makes you feel better.
[오전 11:11:52] Toby: But ya PayPal always has buyers backs.
[오전 11:12:04] Toby: Seller always loses and accounts get banned also.
[오전 11:12:13] Toby: PayPal accounts for the seller.
[오전 11:12:51] jaeha2714: what is your paypal address?
[오전 11:13:47] Toby: my PayPal has my name in it. [email protected]
[오전 11:13:49] Toby: Haha
[오전 11:15:36] jaeha2714: just wondering
[오전 11:15:42] jaeha2714: when you send me the account
[오전 11:15:54] jaeha2714: can you change it's login id to my specific email address?
[오전 11:16:04] jaeha2714: with also SNS code sending thing removed
[오전 11:16:17] Toby: ? Yes yes. Go to Xbox.com. Settings and account. Change everything. Verify new email address.
[오전 11:16:51] Toby: My SMS is not set up no worries. Also set your console as HOME when you add it.
[오전 11:17:32] Toby: That's it really. Pretty simple. Just make sure you have an email to attach it to.
[오전 11:18:33] jaeha2714: okay money sent
[오전 11:18:52] jaeha2714: just set the email to [email protected]
[오전 11:18:53] Toby: Let me verify
[오전 11:18:57] Toby: Ok perfect
[오전 11:19:05] Toby: One sec and I'll guide you through it
[오전 11:19:18] jaeha2714: sure
[오전 11:19:26] jaeha2714: as long as you suddenly remove me/block me and run away
[오전 11:19:36] jaeha2714: oops
[오전 11:19:39] jaeha2714: as long as you don't*
[오전 11:20:05] Toby: Lmao. No no haha. Just give me a few min haha. I'm here. I can call you if you want to. Just wait a min so I can verify.
[오전 11:21:36] Toby: I'm still here. It's taking a min.
[오전 11:21:41] Toby: But I received it.
[오전 11:21:43] Toby: Thank you.
[오전 11:22:18] jaeha2714: okay cool
[오전 11:23:44] jaeha2714: let me know when you set login id with [email protected]
[오전 11:23:52] jaeha2714: so I can go to my mail and verify it or something
[오전 11:24:06] Toby: Yup just loading the page.
[오전 11:26:06] Toby: That's the correct email you want?
[오전 11:26:14] jaeha2714: yea
[오전 11:26:22] Toby: Okay
[오전 11:28:10] Toby: Ok sent
[오전 11:28:15] Toby: May take 5 min.
[오전 11:29:08] jaeha2714: why 5 minutes?
[오전 11:29:30] Toby: I don't know? It said it "may" take. That's what Xbox said.
[오전 11:35:35] jaeha2714: yea
[오전 11:35:40] jaeha2714: I'm starting to think this is a scam
[오전 11:35:48] jaeha2714: they don't take 5 minutes
[오전 11:35:56] Toby: No it's not sorry. I just have other orders.
[오전 11:36:43] jaeha2714: that only makes you sounds more suspicious
[오전 11:38:35] Toby: Excuse me? I sent the verification to you.
[오전 11:38:56] jaeha2714: it's not here
[오전 11:39:17] jaeha2714: secondly, I know how it works. I tried changing email address with my own account before. it doesn't take 5 minutes
[오전 11:39:35] Toby: Spam folder?
[오전 11:39:53] jaeha2714: it isn't there
[오전 11:42:09] jaeha2714: okay, can you try it again then?
[오전 11:43:14] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오전 11:44:06] Toby: Yes I will.
[오전 11:45:39] Toby: Sent
[오전 11:47:44] Toby: Where is that email from?
[오전 11:47:52] Toby: That's obv not hotmail
[오전 11:47:57] Toby: Or outlook or gmail lol
[오전 11:48:55] jaeha2714: some Korean site
[오전 11:48:57] jaeha2714: its still not here
[오전 11:49:08] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:49:09] jaeha2714: how about this
[오전 11:49:13] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오전 11:49:32] jaeha2714: can you try with that one?
[오전 11:49:35] Toby: K I'll try that. I never heard of that domain name so that's odd lol
[오전 11:49:44] jaeha2714: http://www.naver.com/
[오전 11:49:46] Toby: I'm actually trying to send. I can send video of my screen.
[오전 11:49:52] Toby: Ohh okie
[오전 11:54:27] jaeha2714: still not here tho
[오전 11:59:15] jaeha2714: I have reported Item disput and also posting a thread on Paypal Disputes and Claims
[오전 11:59:24] jaeha2714: i will remove my reports once I get my delivery
[오전 11:59:33] jaeha2714: but until then, I'm gonna get my money back
[오후 12:00:00] jaeha2714: oh yea, sure. go "Away" like that.
[오후 12:12:02] Toby: Yoy can do it yourself if you want. It's easier. Please remove the claim once you change the password
. [email protected]. Password is R1nzler404
[오후 12:12:12] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:12:23] Toby: I didn't. My phone turned off on me.
[오후 12:12:41] Toby: Please remove the funds once logged in.
[오후 12:13:11] jaeha2714: okay i can log in but it requires the Codes
[오후 12:13:19] jaeha2714: i see thre options
[오후 12:13:22] Toby: Send via recovery.
[오후 12:13:24] Toby: Email
[오후 12:13:24] jaeha2714: Hotmail and text and call
[오후 12:13:45] Toby: I'll do it for you. Im sorry I pissed you off. I didn't mean to. My phone actually died on me.
[오후 12:13:50] Toby: Hotmail
[오후 12:14:06] jaeha2714: can you send me the rest of the link?
[오후 12:14:10] jaeha2714: i need to enter
[오후 12:14:19] Toby: what does it start with?
[오후 12:14:19] jaeha2714: To verify that this is your email address, complete the hidden part and click "Send code" to receive your code.
[오후 12:14:24] Toby: Yes yes
[오후 12:14:26] jaeha2714: dw****@
[오후 12:16:31] jaeha2714: i need the rest of the address
[오후 12:16:53] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:17:10] jaeha2714: okay code sent
[오후 12:17:23] Toby: I believe. I am logged in. I can try and change for yoy also now.
[오후 12:19:07] jaeha2714: okay
[오후 12:20:01] Toby: Changed
[오후 12:20:18] Toby: [email protected]. Password Cookie12345. Easier for.you
[오후 12:21:13] Toby: Can you release the funds please. I did not scam you.
[오후 12:21:22] Toby: Just bad communication.
[오후 12:21:27] Toby: On my part.
[오후 12:22:25] jaeha2714: um
[오후 12:22:36] jaeha2714: i thought you were gonna change the MAIN login email to [email protected] ?
[오후 12:22:49] jaeha2714: also
[오후 12:22:54] jaeha2714: i just checked
[오후 12:23:00] jaeha2714: it doesn't seem to
[오후 12:23:06] jaeha2714: registered on xbox live at all?
[오후 12:23:28] Toby: Yes it has. That is my Halo account.
[오후 12:23:40] Toby: You an change main email.
[오후 12:23:44] Toby: In settings.
[오후 12:23:50] Toby: can
[오후 12:24:14] jaeha2714: i can't as long as the main is still there because it sends the verify code to it each time
[오후 12:24:23] jaeha2714: and i cant do it as long as its still there
[오후 12:24:26] jaeha2714: why are you
[오후 12:24:27] jaeha2714: insisting
[오후 12:24:31] jaeha2714: that you keep the old email
[오후 12:24:36] Toby: No no
[오후 12:24:41] Toby: Resend that.
[오후 12:24:46] Toby: I'll give you the code.
[오후 12:24:56] Toby: I'm not insisting anything....
[오후 12:25:39] Toby: You are the one that held the funds on the PayPal. I'm trying to fix this. It sucks for both of us. Send the NEW code to the new email.
[오후 12:26:12] Toby: ?
[오후 12:26:29] jaeha2714: now it's df****@live.ca
[오후 12:26:36] Toby: Yup ok send it.
[오후 12:26:44] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:26:47] jaeha2714: code sent
[오후 12:26:49] Toby: I'll give yoy the code
[오후 12:26:50] Toby: Okie
[오후 12:29:53] Toby: Didnt receive. It I have proof in screenshot. .....
[오후 12:30:22] jaeha2714: with your photoshop?
[오후 12:30:56] Toby: Omg. I have Verified Users who can back me in what I do.
[오후 12:31:25] jaeha2714: then why aren't you changing the login id to [email protected] and remove your phone verification so i can log in?
[오후 12:31:26] Toby: How can I Photoshop in 2 min
[오후 12:31:42] Toby: Because I have NOT received an EMAIL!
[오후 12:31:46] Toby: I've been waiting
[오후 12:32:21] jaeha2714: um, I'm the one who's supposed to receive verification email?
[오후 12:32:47] Toby: ???? No..... You sent me a CODE remember? To my dfortman
[오후 12:32:52] Toby: I didn't receive it
[오후 12:32:56] Toby: Yet
[오후 12:33:29] jaeha2714: no
[오후 12:33:31] jaeha2714: at very first
[오후 12:33:32] jaeha2714: I asked
[오후 12:33:33] jaeha2714: to
[오후 12:33:35] jaeha2714: change
[오후 12:33:35] jaeha2714: the
[오후 12:33:36] jaeha2714: login
[오후 12:33:36] jaeha2714: id
[오후 12:33:37] jaeha2714: to
[오후 12:33:40] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오후 12:33:49] jaeha2714: stop playing dumb with me
[오후 12:34:02] Toby: Yes YOU can do that yourself! Just take your money back and leave please. Ill contact Epic NPC. No scams here. I sold to 6 people already who can back me. I'll drop the claim on PayPal also.
[오후 12:34:23] jaeha2714: but I can't DO it my SELF because you say that CODES aren't ******* sending to you
[오후 12:34:37] Toby: Yes well I have not received them.
[오후 12:34:41] Toby: So to make this easier.
[오후 12:34:52] jaeha2714: stop. just stop.
[오후 12:34:54] Toby: Buy somewhere else and I'll return the pending.
[오후 12:35:00] jaeha2714: I'm keeping my dispute claim
[오후 12:35:04] Toby: Why?
[오후 12:35:12] jaeha2714: also as right nowm posting a thread on paypal community Dispute and Claim
[오후 12:35:14] Toby: I didn't receive the money
[오후 12:35:20] jaeha2714: LOL
[오후 12:35:39] Toby: I'm sending this chat log to PayPal and Epic anyways.
[오후 12:35:45] jaeha2714: then why did you say "[오전 11:21:36] Toby: I'm still here. It's taking a min.
[오전 11:21:41] Toby: But I received it.
[오전 11:21:43] Toby: Thank you."
[오후 12:35:52] Toby: ?
[오후 12:35:53] Toby: Yes
[오후 12:36:02] Toby: But then you CLAIMED.IT BACK
[오후 12:36:15] jaeha2714: because I did not receive my product?
[오후 12:36:16] Toby: The funds were taken OUT of my account
[오후 12:36:20] jaeha2714: paypal rules are clear
[오후 12:36:23] jaeha2714: I did not receive my item
[오후 12:36:24] Toby: In 4 min?
[오후 12:36:41] jaeha2714: I still don't have access to log in
[오후 12:36:46] Toby: ******* idiot....... It takes a bit to send.
[오후 12:36:47] jaeha2714: therefor i did not receive my item
[오후 12:36:50] jaeha2714: that's clear
[오후 12:36:54] Toby: Screw off
[오후 12:51:18] jaeha2714: why are you trying to get my money anyway?
[오후 12:51:22] jaeha2714: i did not get the devliery
[오후 12:51:29] jaeha2714: ******* liar bro
[오후 1:19:36] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
[오후 1:19:36] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
[오후 1:19:37] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? If you mean by Trade Guardian, No.
- - - Updated - - -
Dear, scammer.
You failed.
My paypal's Buyer Protections is backing me up.
According to the rules of Buyer Protection, You cannot claim my money as long as you don't have FIRM PROOF that I do have access/own the virtual items/goods that you sold.
Btw, turns out, it is not LEGAL against the Mircrosoft TOS to sell accounts.
Your accounts can be banned but I don't think that matters since it's an empty account ( I ******* checked
Because I do my researches)
Especially, if you don't have any tracking number for the product, you can't do jack **** against me.
Before even the fight started, I have won.
Every words you say, every thing you do only makes you more and more stupid.
Not only that, You don't deserve to be called as a Scammer.
Did you even see how CS:GO trading scammers do?
They do research. Use the rules and laws in their favor. use the loop holes of the laws and rules.
they actually put effort with dedicated bots (hundreds) and website.
I'm not saying they are any better than you.
But at least, they are skillful. But you're not good at anything and probably never will for the rest of your pathethic life.
You can say whatever you want. because I'll say mine.
You can comeback with your shitty comebacks all you want.
You can spam LOLs to fill the empty voidness to make you look victorious.
Your attitude doesn't add up. If you're the one who got scammed, you should be mad and do anything possible to claim your legit money but all you do is "OMG DIZ GUY STELZ MAH ACCOUNT XDDDD UR LIAR LOL KTHXBAI"
Please do tell me which point I got it wrong about your personality.
Even I'm not that great at english and still reking your *** down so hard, you'll be sore for the next week and can't even walk.
I am your god damn nightmare.
And I will always, ALWAYS be there for you to ruin your day.
And you managed to piss me off, good job. Eventho I'm getting my money back, it will take a week. so my hat off to you.
But I will never quit until you're knocked down.
(not bragging, just a hobby) I've been at boxing ring for 2 years, and MMA gym and you bet I won't ******* give up until you go down or I do.
It's your words against you.
Method of Contact Used: Skype
instant Messanger of the person you're accusing: tooniestark
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: ToonieStark
Your Instant Messenger ID: jaeha2714
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? Money scammed
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/995899-Selling-Halo-5-Achilles-Account!
Approximate value of property: $40.00
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: Simply tried buying an account, got scammed.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
1. Video proof
- https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=4H-VUgHPuug
2. skype chat pic/paypal and so on
http://imgur.com/a/BBNIw (Paypal transaction)
http://imgur.com/a/mGhQ5 (Paypal Dispute)
http://imgur.com/a/kfEZT (Skype chat)
http://imgur.com/a/k7zmH (my skype ID page)
3. Chat log(ctrl c+v) (if the video wasn't real enough)
[오전 10:46:06] Toby: Yes I am.[오전 10:46:22] jaeha2714: do you have Indomitable armor sets unlocked?
[오전 10:46:34] Toby: What do you mean?
[오전 10:46:43] jaeha2714: Halo Reach armory
[오전 10:46:43] Toby: I have full Achilles and most legendary.
[오전 10:46:48] Toby: Oh yes
[오전 10:46:52] jaeha2714: the Jorge armor
[오전 10:46:56] Toby: Yes sir.
[오전 10:47:03] jaeha2714: Legendary visor too?
[오전 10:47:06] jaeha2714: like the Gold thing
[오전 10:47:17] jaeha2714: those two are the only thing that matters to me tbh
[오전 10:48:08] jaeha2714: how much are you thinking?
[오전 10:50:27] jaeha2714: there's this guy with level 147 (with all unlocks) + Doom, Destiny for 50 bucks
[오전 10:50:41] jaeha2714: I was wondering if we could go lower than him
[오전 10:50:48] jaeha2714: (link https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/988018-Halo-5-rank-146-and-more-(games)-cheap!)
[오전 10:58:59] Toby: That guy is a scammer. I am friends with LemonFresh he commented on the thread I believe.
[오전 10:59:12] Toby: He's verified and an Epic Member.
[오전 10:59:35] Toby: No one would sell all that for $50. Maybe the Halo account yes but not all of that.
[오전 10:59:42] jaeha2714: oh
[오전 10:59:51] jaeha2714: do you have any links to any thread about it?
[오전 11:00:37] jaeha2714: I mean, I'm not trying to doubt you
[오전 11:00:45] jaeha2714: just want to make sure if he's really a scammer
[오전 11:01:40] Toby: We speak often on Facebook
[오전 11:02:00] Toby: Yoy can if you want bro. Just a warning lol
[오전 11:02:04] Toby: You"
[오전 11:02:12] Toby: I wouldn't
[오전 11:02:20] jaeha2714: is that why Buy with Trade Guardian there for?
[오전 11:02:27] jaeha2714: isn't that*
[오전 11:02:48] jaeha2714: if I get a falsified account, I request refund. I thought that's how it worked
[오전 11:03:01] Toby: Haha. Yes but still. Yoy can if you want to
[오전 11:03:12] jaeha2714: hmm
[오전 11:03:33] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:03:39] jaeha2714: but I'm still using Trade Guardian
[오전 11:03:44] Toby: Yup that's fine.
[오전 11:03:52] Toby: Do as you wish
[오전 11:05:21] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:05:35] jaeha2714: let me try to figure out how to purchase through Buy with Trade Guardian
[오전 11:05:43] jaeha2714: I'm only two days old in this site
[오전 11:05:55] jaeha2714: reason I'm trying to buy an account like this
[오전 11:06:02] jaeha2714: is because I'm obsessed with indomitable armor
[오전 11:06:06] jaeha2714: yet I cant get one
[오전 11:06:08] jaeha2714: level 31 very low
[오전 11:06:21] jaeha2714: don't really wanna invest so much time on playng grinding req
[오전 11:06:26] jaeha2714: which is not fun at all
[오전 11:06:35] jaeha2714: paying for req? no ******* thanks
[오전 11:06:52] jaeha2714: would take more than 1000 dollars to open all those gold packs to get indomintable
[오전 11:07:05] jaeha2714: so many armors that I don't give a **** in my way
[오전 11:08:12] Toby: Haha true. I mean I'm level 99 right now ( almost level 100 ). I bought 3 gold.packs and got the rest playing. Lol
[오전 11:09:54] jaeha2714: oh
[오전 11:09:54] jaeha2714: wtf
[오전 11:09:57] jaeha2714: there is fee?
[오전 11:10:03] Toby: Yes haha
[오전 11:10:06] jaeha2714: I see three options
[오전 11:10:08] Toby: Middleman service.
[오전 11:10:10] Toby: Lol
[오전 11:10:13] Toby: Always a fee
[오전 11:10:14] jaeha2714: can we split ?
[오전 11:10:46] Toby: That's why I never use it lol. If I buy something I escalade the claim to PayPal and get reimbursed in 3 days haha.
[오전 11:10:54] Toby: If the seller lied
[오전 11:11:03] jaeha2714: hmm
[오전 11:11:07] Toby: Only happens once to me with an PS4 account.
[오전 11:11:09] jaeha2714: I guess that's an option
[오전 11:11:12] Toby: A
[오전 11:11:39] Toby: Hey man. It's up to you. What ever makes you feel better.
[오전 11:11:52] Toby: But ya PayPal always has buyers backs.
[오전 11:12:04] Toby: Seller always loses and accounts get banned also.
[오전 11:12:13] Toby: PayPal accounts for the seller.
[오전 11:12:51] jaeha2714: what is your paypal address?
[오전 11:13:47] Toby: my PayPal has my name in it. [email protected]
[오전 11:13:49] Toby: Haha
[오전 11:15:36] jaeha2714: just wondering
[오전 11:15:42] jaeha2714: when you send me the account
[오전 11:15:54] jaeha2714: can you change it's login id to my specific email address?
[오전 11:16:04] jaeha2714: with also SNS code sending thing removed
[오전 11:16:17] Toby: ? Yes yes. Go to Xbox.com. Settings and account. Change everything. Verify new email address.
[오전 11:16:51] Toby: My SMS is not set up no worries. Also set your console as HOME when you add it.
[오전 11:17:32] Toby: That's it really. Pretty simple. Just make sure you have an email to attach it to.
[오전 11:18:33] jaeha2714: okay money sent
[오전 11:18:52] jaeha2714: just set the email to [email protected]
[오전 11:18:53] Toby: Let me verify
[오전 11:18:57] Toby: Ok perfect
[오전 11:19:05] Toby: One sec and I'll guide you through it
[오전 11:19:18] jaeha2714: sure
[오전 11:19:26] jaeha2714: as long as you suddenly remove me/block me and run away
[오전 11:19:36] jaeha2714: oops
[오전 11:19:39] jaeha2714: as long as you don't*
[오전 11:20:05] Toby: Lmao. No no haha. Just give me a few min haha. I'm here. I can call you if you want to. Just wait a min so I can verify.
[오전 11:21:36] Toby: I'm still here. It's taking a min.
[오전 11:21:41] Toby: But I received it.
[오전 11:21:43] Toby: Thank you.
[오전 11:22:18] jaeha2714: okay cool
[오전 11:23:44] jaeha2714: let me know when you set login id with [email protected]
[오전 11:23:52] jaeha2714: so I can go to my mail and verify it or something
[오전 11:24:06] Toby: Yup just loading the page.
[오전 11:26:06] Toby: That's the correct email you want?
[오전 11:26:14] jaeha2714: yea
[오전 11:26:22] Toby: Okay
[오전 11:28:10] Toby: Ok sent
[오전 11:28:15] Toby: May take 5 min.
[오전 11:29:08] jaeha2714: why 5 minutes?
[오전 11:29:30] Toby: I don't know? It said it "may" take. That's what Xbox said.
[오전 11:35:35] jaeha2714: yea
[오전 11:35:40] jaeha2714: I'm starting to think this is a scam
[오전 11:35:48] jaeha2714: they don't take 5 minutes
[오전 11:35:56] Toby: No it's not sorry. I just have other orders.
[오전 11:36:43] jaeha2714: that only makes you sounds more suspicious
[오전 11:38:35] Toby: Excuse me? I sent the verification to you.
[오전 11:38:56] jaeha2714: it's not here
[오전 11:39:17] jaeha2714: secondly, I know how it works. I tried changing email address with my own account before. it doesn't take 5 minutes
[오전 11:39:35] Toby: Spam folder?
[오전 11:39:53] jaeha2714: it isn't there
[오전 11:42:09] jaeha2714: okay, can you try it again then?
[오전 11:43:14] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오전 11:44:06] Toby: Yes I will.
[오전 11:45:39] Toby: Sent
[오전 11:47:44] Toby: Where is that email from?
[오전 11:47:52] Toby: That's obv not hotmail
[오전 11:47:57] Toby: Or outlook or gmail lol
[오전 11:48:55] jaeha2714: some Korean site
[오전 11:48:57] jaeha2714: its still not here
[오전 11:49:08] jaeha2714: okay
[오전 11:49:09] jaeha2714: how about this
[오전 11:49:13] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오전 11:49:32] jaeha2714: can you try with that one?
[오전 11:49:35] Toby: K I'll try that. I never heard of that domain name so that's odd lol
[오전 11:49:44] jaeha2714: http://www.naver.com/
[오전 11:49:46] Toby: I'm actually trying to send. I can send video of my screen.
[오전 11:49:52] Toby: Ohh okie
[오전 11:54:27] jaeha2714: still not here tho
[오전 11:59:15] jaeha2714: I have reported Item disput and also posting a thread on Paypal Disputes and Claims
[오전 11:59:24] jaeha2714: i will remove my reports once I get my delivery
[오전 11:59:33] jaeha2714: but until then, I'm gonna get my money back
[오후 12:00:00] jaeha2714: oh yea, sure. go "Away" like that.
[오후 12:12:02] Toby: Yoy can do it yourself if you want. It's easier. Please remove the claim once you change the password
[오후 12:12:12] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:12:23] Toby: I didn't. My phone turned off on me.
[오후 12:12:41] Toby: Please remove the funds once logged in.
[오후 12:13:11] jaeha2714: okay i can log in but it requires the Codes
[오후 12:13:19] jaeha2714: i see thre options
[오후 12:13:22] Toby: Send via recovery.
[오후 12:13:24] Toby: Email
[오후 12:13:24] jaeha2714: Hotmail and text and call
[오후 12:13:45] Toby: I'll do it for you. Im sorry I pissed you off. I didn't mean to. My phone actually died on me.
[오후 12:13:50] Toby: Hotmail
[오후 12:14:06] jaeha2714: can you send me the rest of the link?
[오후 12:14:10] jaeha2714: i need to enter
[오후 12:14:19] Toby: what does it start with?
[오후 12:14:19] jaeha2714: To verify that this is your email address, complete the hidden part and click "Send code" to receive your code.
[오후 12:14:24] Toby: Yes yes
[오후 12:14:26] jaeha2714: dw****@
[오후 12:16:31] jaeha2714: i need the rest of the address
[오후 12:16:53] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:17:10] jaeha2714: okay code sent
[오후 12:17:23] Toby: I believe. I am logged in. I can try and change for yoy also now.
[오후 12:19:07] jaeha2714: okay
[오후 12:20:01] Toby: Changed
[오후 12:20:18] Toby: [email protected]. Password Cookie12345. Easier for.you
[오후 12:21:13] Toby: Can you release the funds please. I did not scam you.
[오후 12:21:22] Toby: Just bad communication.
[오후 12:21:27] Toby: On my part.
[오후 12:22:25] jaeha2714: um
[오후 12:22:36] jaeha2714: i thought you were gonna change the MAIN login email to [email protected] ?
[오후 12:22:49] jaeha2714: also
[오후 12:22:54] jaeha2714: i just checked
[오후 12:23:00] jaeha2714: it doesn't seem to
[오후 12:23:06] jaeha2714: registered on xbox live at all?
[오후 12:23:28] Toby: Yes it has. That is my Halo account.
[오후 12:23:40] Toby: You an change main email.
[오후 12:23:44] Toby: In settings.
[오후 12:23:50] Toby: can
[오후 12:24:14] jaeha2714: i can't as long as the main is still there because it sends the verify code to it each time
[오후 12:24:23] jaeha2714: and i cant do it as long as its still there
[오후 12:24:26] jaeha2714: why are you
[오후 12:24:27] jaeha2714: insisting
[오후 12:24:31] jaeha2714: that you keep the old email
[오후 12:24:36] Toby: No no
[오후 12:24:41] Toby: Resend that.
[오후 12:24:46] Toby: I'll give you the code.
[오후 12:24:56] Toby: I'm not insisting anything....
[오후 12:25:39] Toby: You are the one that held the funds on the PayPal. I'm trying to fix this. It sucks for both of us. Send the NEW code to the new email.
[오후 12:26:12] Toby: ?
[오후 12:26:29] jaeha2714: now it's df****@live.ca
[오후 12:26:36] Toby: Yup ok send it.
[오후 12:26:44] Toby: [email protected]
[오후 12:26:47] jaeha2714: code sent
[오후 12:26:49] Toby: I'll give yoy the code
[오후 12:26:50] Toby: Okie
[오후 12:29:53] Toby: Didnt receive. It I have proof in screenshot. .....
[오후 12:30:22] jaeha2714: with your photoshop?
[오후 12:30:56] Toby: Omg. I have Verified Users who can back me in what I do.
[오후 12:31:25] jaeha2714: then why aren't you changing the login id to [email protected] and remove your phone verification so i can log in?
[오후 12:31:26] Toby: How can I Photoshop in 2 min
[오후 12:31:42] Toby: Because I have NOT received an EMAIL!
[오후 12:31:46] Toby: I've been waiting
[오후 12:32:21] jaeha2714: um, I'm the one who's supposed to receive verification email?
[오후 12:32:47] Toby: ???? No..... You sent me a CODE remember? To my dfortman
[오후 12:32:52] Toby: I didn't receive it
[오후 12:32:56] Toby: Yet
[오후 12:33:29] jaeha2714: no
[오후 12:33:31] jaeha2714: at very first
[오후 12:33:32] jaeha2714: I asked
[오후 12:33:33] jaeha2714: to
[오후 12:33:35] jaeha2714: change
[오후 12:33:35] jaeha2714: the
[오후 12:33:36] jaeha2714: login
[오후 12:33:36] jaeha2714: id
[오후 12:33:37] jaeha2714: to
[오후 12:33:40] jaeha2714: [email protected]
[오후 12:33:49] jaeha2714: stop playing dumb with me
[오후 12:34:02] Toby: Yes YOU can do that yourself! Just take your money back and leave please. Ill contact Epic NPC. No scams here. I sold to 6 people already who can back me. I'll drop the claim on PayPal also.
[오후 12:34:23] jaeha2714: but I can't DO it my SELF because you say that CODES aren't ******* sending to you
[오후 12:34:37] Toby: Yes well I have not received them.
[오후 12:34:41] Toby: So to make this easier.
[오후 12:34:52] jaeha2714: stop. just stop.
[오후 12:34:54] Toby: Buy somewhere else and I'll return the pending.
[오후 12:35:00] jaeha2714: I'm keeping my dispute claim
[오후 12:35:04] Toby: Why?
[오후 12:35:12] jaeha2714: also as right nowm posting a thread on paypal community Dispute and Claim
[오후 12:35:14] Toby: I didn't receive the money
[오후 12:35:20] jaeha2714: LOL
[오후 12:35:39] Toby: I'm sending this chat log to PayPal and Epic anyways.
[오후 12:35:45] jaeha2714: then why did you say "[오전 11:21:36] Toby: I'm still here. It's taking a min.
[오전 11:21:41] Toby: But I received it.
[오전 11:21:43] Toby: Thank you."
[오후 12:35:52] Toby: ?
[오후 12:35:53] Toby: Yes
[오후 12:36:02] Toby: But then you CLAIMED.IT BACK
[오후 12:36:15] jaeha2714: because I did not receive my product?
[오후 12:36:16] Toby: The funds were taken OUT of my account
[오후 12:36:20] jaeha2714: paypal rules are clear
[오후 12:36:23] jaeha2714: I did not receive my item
[오후 12:36:24] Toby: In 4 min?
[오후 12:36:41] jaeha2714: I still don't have access to log in
[오후 12:36:46] Toby: ******* idiot....... It takes a bit to send.
[오후 12:36:47] jaeha2714: therefor i did not receive my item
[오후 12:36:50] jaeha2714: that's clear
[오후 12:36:54] Toby: Screw off
[오후 12:51:18] jaeha2714: why are you trying to get my money anyway?
[오후 12:51:22] jaeha2714: i did not get the devliery
[오후 12:51:29] jaeha2714: ******* liar bro
[오후 1:19:36] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
[오후 1:19:36] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
[오후 1:19:37] jaeha2714: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-VUgHPuug
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? If you mean by Trade Guardian, No.
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Dear, scammer.
You failed.
My paypal's Buyer Protections is backing me up.
According to the rules of Buyer Protection, You cannot claim my money as long as you don't have FIRM PROOF that I do have access/own the virtual items/goods that you sold.
Btw, turns out, it is not LEGAL against the Mircrosoft TOS to sell accounts.
Your accounts can be banned but I don't think that matters since it's an empty account ( I ******* checked
Especially, if you don't have any tracking number for the product, you can't do jack **** against me.
Before even the fight started, I have won.
Every words you say, every thing you do only makes you more and more stupid.
Not only that, You don't deserve to be called as a Scammer.
Did you even see how CS:GO trading scammers do?
They do research. Use the rules and laws in their favor. use the loop holes of the laws and rules.
they actually put effort with dedicated bots (hundreds) and website.
I'm not saying they are any better than you.
But at least, they are skillful. But you're not good at anything and probably never will for the rest of your pathethic life.
You can say whatever you want. because I'll say mine.
You can comeback with your shitty comebacks all you want.
You can spam LOLs to fill the empty voidness to make you look victorious.
Your attitude doesn't add up. If you're the one who got scammed, you should be mad and do anything possible to claim your legit money but all you do is "OMG DIZ GUY STELZ MAH ACCOUNT XDDDD UR LIAR LOL KTHXBAI"
Please do tell me which point I got it wrong about your personality.
Even I'm not that great at english and still reking your *** down so hard, you'll be sore for the next week and can't even walk.
I am your god damn nightmare.
And I will always, ALWAYS be there for you to ruin your day.
And you managed to piss me off, good job. Eventho I'm getting my money back, it will take a week. so my hat off to you.
But I will never quit until you're knocked down.
(not bragging, just a hobby) I've been at boxing ring for 2 years, and MMA gym and you bet I won't ******* give up until you go down or I do.
It's your words against you.
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