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What's with the scammers all over the place?

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Hey guys just wondering... What's up with all the scammers? Why doesn't anyone selling accounts want to use the trade guardian? I've been trying to get a pokemon go account for awhile and not a single person will use the trade guardian and its driving me nuts. Everyone want's to do everything via skype, email, discord but no one wants to be safe. I get every excuse under the sun of why EVERY SINGLE seller cant/wont use trade guardian. I feel like 100% of all these guys are just scammers and it's sooo frustrating!... Would you guys suggest just waiting till I find someone that is willing to use the TG before I buy or whats a good way to know if im getting something legit or not? This process is extremely frustrating but it's pretty much cheaper here then anywhere else! Thank's guys. End rant.
 
Try finding people with high rep. Most will use trade guardian as long as you are willing to pay the middleman fees. Typically people that refuse to use trade guardian while you cover the fees are likely trying to scam. Always be careful with all trades and try to find the highest repped members or people that are fine using trade guardian.
 
It does not matter what method you use. If someone wants to scam, they will. High repped users, MM's, etc will do it if they wake-up one day and think, "screw it, I'm going to scam as many as I can and don't care of the consequences." Happens a lot. All you have to do in most cases is google search the seller or buyers name to see if they have a scam thread against them somewhere. Just be safe and ask questions that you have to in finding out if users have the right answers without hesitating. Just because a user might be new and with no rep does mean they will scam you. Just use your gut, cannot go wrong most of the time.

The Admins and Super Mods can search internally or have other methods that most do not have. Utilize them if you have any doubt. Never rush to buy anything here.

Be safe and I hope you find the account you like.
 
I would also like to add, look at the age group that tends to buy and sell the games you are looking at. A game like minecraft or clash of clans tends to be the younger user group. They are less mature and really cannot be held responsible for their scams so they are more likely to rip people off.
 
Good to know on both accounts. I didn't really think of google searching the names to see if i can find anything on them. That is true as well Doom. Thanks gents!
 
Anytime, I joined this website 3-4 days ago and have been scammed multiple times, idk if it’s even worth using this site lol I’m in the same boat, they always have excuses and say their stuff is legit, then when you pay them and ask for the account info they send you a phony account. Monkeyboy123 will be banned after my dispute is finalized, and we won’t have to worry about that ******* ripping us off. “Oh my account was hacked” thenafter he scams me, he edits his GTA post saying “my account was hacked” lol very smooth������
 
[MENTION=772086]KingKai[/MENTION] I dont see a dispute. it should be posted here. https://www.epicnpc.com/forums/142-Active-Disputes

Now You are dealing in a game, like I said earlier is a less mature seller base. The chance of getting scammed in those games skyrockets.

Use trade guardian, simply put. Do not deal with any one with out feedback.
 
Hey guys just wondering... What's up with all the scammers? Why doesn't anyone selling accounts want to use the trade guardian? I've been trying to get a pokemon go account for awhile and not a single person will use the trade guardian and its driving me nuts. Everyone want's to do everything via skype, email, discord but no one wants to be safe. I get every excuse under the sun of why EVERY SINGLE seller cant/wont use trade guardian. I feel like 100% of all these guys are just scammers and it's sooo frustrating!... Would you guys suggest just waiting till I find someone that is willing to use the TG before I buy or whats a good way to know if im getting something legit or not? This process is extremely frustrating but it's pretty much cheaper here then anywhere else! Thank's guys. End rant.

If you use EpicNPC credits with TG, they require some time to convert to cash and are sold at a significant discount from purchase price due to their limited usefulness. Therefore, some people may not accept them.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
If you use EpicNPC credits with TG, they require some time to convert to cash and are sold at a significant discount from purchase price due to their limited usefulness. Therefore, some people may not accept them.

Well there are few types of sellers/buyers:
*Massive sellers/buyers -- those use those credits or they send you on their site to do a deal, the safest option, but not that great if you are trying to sell to them (but if you just want to get rid on account, they are a good option)

*No risk sellers --)they will only use middleman and you will not convince them in other service, even if they get more money that way. They rather take a loss.

*Normal people trying to sell the account, but they dont want to get over all the middleman thing, as they want some extra money. You generaly talk to them in person on some social media or discord or other service.

*Scammers pretending they are normal people, but there is a way to spot them. They will ask you for a payment type that is not posible to get refound or chargeback.
For example --- you use paypal --- seller gives you a link that converts paypal money into other type of money (and you cant refound that). Then seller ask you to send that converted money to his account. He gets the money then dissapears.

*To good to be true sellers --- 99% scam, if you see a to low price on those type of accounts stay the hell away.

*Buyers that will buy your game account, but....... they will chargeback you 30 days after once they get all your account info and they re-sell those accounts to massive sellers/buyers cheap. They will also ask for your ID and they can use it to make fake bank accounts on your name. (it depends on site/bank they use as some are more secure when making new accounts and ask for more info)

*Stupid sellers/buyers -- ones that just type i want to buy/sell account....avoid those people -- the less info, the higher chance of scam of some kind

*Slowpoke sellers -- sellers with a lot of patience and they will refuse your offer if they think its to low or they think you cannot be trusted. They also dont use middleman service, as they want to maximize profit. However they will backdown their price if they see you can be trusted. (that would be me lol)

*I only wana buy X of you buyers -- usualy some nagging goldsellers will try to ask you for something on your account (and their offer is joke usualy), so they can re-sell it later (this also makes your account less valuable and higher chance of ban) Unless you have multiple account of some game where you can transver items/gold, do not do it. It got one of my game accounts permabanned when doing this on some other site and i lost some money .. so speaking from experience

*I cant quit the game, so i am selling my account -- game quiters, usualy something changed in game and they just want to get out and never log in. They will sell their account cheap just to get rid of it, however they are people most of the time scammed of money, as they cant be bothered to recover account.

*01110111101111011 -- language, people who dont spreak english very good and can be tricky to sell or buy from them. If anyone got experince with them i would love to hear.
*and there is more....but it would take forever
 
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