Well rep'd member gone scammer MD Name: krik23 AIM: Celeris123456789

[Himler]

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #33FF33">Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> March 9, 2009
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> AIM
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> Celeris123456789
<span style="font-weight: bold">Your Instant Messenger ID:</span> Arch Fiend 336
<span style="font-weight: bold">Markee Dragon Account of Scammer:</span> krik23
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other information: </span> He swears hes unbanable because hes been here so long.


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span> My 5/5 full valorous rogue
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth..._SP#Post2329162
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> 400-600 US
<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?: </span>No
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?: </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed: </span>I contacted him wanting to trade my rogue for his shaman. We aggreed to not finalize the trade because I didn't have access to the email and we decided to finish the deal the next day. So we exchanged full info besides the email and the next day shaman was recalled so I told celeris on aim that I was recalling my rogue until I had the shaman back in my possesion, he told me ok that the deal would sit mutually. Then later that day my rogue gets recalled and I attempt to contact celeris about this and he states he has no idea what happened.
My friends then spam the guy on my rogue seeing all my irl friends on that realm. The guy playing the rogue said it was sold to him by celeris. It couldnt have been the OO seeing as he was one that recalled it for me in the first place by my request and I trust him very well since we stay in touch alot.
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Proof</span></span> (You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be vailid)
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Chat Logs:</span> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Celeris123456789 (11:51:31 AM): well ..i can add in about 25-50 incash...
Celeris123456789 (11:51:39 AM): on top of the shaman
Celeris123456789 (11:51:42 AM): to pay off some gametime/xfers
Arch Fiend 336 (11:53:27 AM): kk
Celeris123456789 (11:53:48 AM): not to mention, like you siad..you have went through and wasted time...with all sorts of people and their [censored] on these forums..and i know how it feels
Celeris123456789 (11:53:57 AM): with me, youll get an ID...and a pure knowledge backing that tells you
Celeris123456789 (11:54:05 AM): that your never going to have to deal with..scammer bs ever again
Arch Fiend 336 (11:56:03 AM): k now just between you and a warrior lol
Arch Fiend 336 (11:56:43 AM): actually f that he has no flyer
Celeris123456789 (11:56:53 AM): hahaha wow thats retarded .. to have NO flier LOL
Arch Fiend 336 (11:56:54 AM): err epic flyer
Celeris123456789 (11:56:56 AM): yeah my guy has epic flyer
Celeris123456789 (11:56:58 AM): so
Arch Fiend 336 (11:57:28 AM): alright
Arch Fiend 336 (11:58:02 AM): theres only one thing the email to the rogue is lost lol the oo was supposed to call and have it changed on monday
Arch Fiend 336 (11:58:05 AM): is that a problem
Celeris123456789 (11:58:11 AM): uhh
Arch Fiend 336 (11:58:12 AM): i have all the info though
Celeris123456789 (11:58:18 AM): do u have all other info...ok so monday u can get that changed?
Arch Fiend 336 (11:58:22 AM): yea
Later that day I decide to go through with the deal
rch Fiend 336 (12:06:16 PM): wanna take care of the rest
Arch Fiend 336 (12:06:22 PM): besides the email swap
Celeris123456789 (12:06:22 PM): yeah we can go ahead and do that
Arch Fiend 336 (12:06:50 PM): k CENSORED pw is CENSORED
Celeris123456789 (12:07:08 PM): ok sotp there
Celeris123456789 (12:07:10 PM): and lemme check everything out
Celeris123456789 (12:07:14 PM): you trust me doing this correct?
Arch Fiend 336 (12:07:18 PM): yea np
Arch Fiend 336 (12:07:19 PM): brb
Celeris123456789 (12:07:23 PM): mk
Arch Fiend 336 (12:10:47 PM): everything check out?
Celeris123456789 (12:10:51 PM): yessir
Celeris123456789 (12:10:53 PM): CENSORED CENSORED
Arch Fiend 336 (12:11:05 PM): can i change pw?
Celeris123456789 (12:11:12 PM): yeah im gonna go ahead and do that too.
Arch Fiend 336 (12:11:19 PM): kk
Arch Fiend 336 (12:11:53 PM): you want sqa and name now
Celeris123456789 (12:11:57 PM): yea
Arch Fiend 336 (12:12:17 PM): Mother's maiden name = CENSORED
Arch Fiend 336 (12:12:25 PM): CENSORED
Arch Fiend 336 (12:12:36 PM): want his address/cell?
Celeris123456789 (12:12:44 PM): yeah
Arch Fiend 336 (12:12:52 PM): CENSORED cell, CENSORED
Celeris123456789 (12:14:04 PM): ok
Celeris123456789 (12:14:13 PM): SQA:CENSORED
Celeris123456789 (12:14:32 PM): name: CENSORED
Arch Fiend 336 (12:15:11 PM): oh [censored] can u check to see if i canceled my credit card
Celeris123456789 (12:15:25 PM): u did
Celeris123456789 (12:15:27 PM): its all off here
Arch Fiend 336 (12:15:30 PM): kk
Celeris123456789 (12:15:31 PM): want to log on and see for urself?
Arch Fiend 336 (12:15:38 PM): no its fine
Celeris123456789 (12:15:45 PM): ok yeah no but honestly..meh
Celeris123456789 (12:15:45 PM): it is
Celeris123456789 (12:15:48 PM): heh
Little later I give him my real name
Celeris123456789 (12:24:05 PM): wats ur name
Celeris123456789 (12:24:06 PM): btw
Arch Fiend 336 (12:24:11 PM): adrian
Shaman gets recalled and he says he doesnt mind me taking back my rogue for meantime
Arch Fiend 336 (10:56:41 AM): you there
Arch Fiend 336 (11:03:54 AM): theres been a problem someone changed the pw on your shaman and now i cant log on
Arch Fiend 336 (11:03:59 AM): i was on like 10min ago
Arch Fiend 336 (11:04:13 AM): then somehow someone changed the pw and everything
Arch Fiend 336 (11:54:10 AM): well...
Celeris123456789 signed on at 12:34:52 PM
Celeris123456789 (12:35:30 PM): whats going on?
Arch Fiend 336 (12:35:58 PM): i was on the shaman this morning
Arch Fiend 336 (12:36:01 PM): went to take a [censored]
Arch Fiend 336 (12:36:06 PM): then come back pw is changed
Celeris123456789 (12:37:21 PM): it was probably my bro. ill talk to him, he might not have known what i did
Celeris123456789 (12:38:06 PM): did u try to trade it or anything?
Arch Fiend 336 (12:38:19 PM): nope
Celeris123456789 (12:39:47 PM): ok so you dont mind..me taking some time to look into this and talk to the brother
Celeris123456789 (12:39:50 PM): because we go tthis from OO
Celeris123456789 (12:39:53 PM): so i know its not scammed
Arch Fiend 336 (12:39:57 PM): ok
Celeris123456789 (12:39:57 PM): if anything ud just have to call.
Arch Fiend 336 (12:40:02 PM): im holding on to the rogue then
Celeris123456789 (12:40:09 PM): you reacalled the rogue?
Arch Fiend 336 (12:40:19 PM): oo did it for me like 10min ago yes
Arch Fiend 336 (12:40:23 PM): was gonna swich email to yours
Arch Fiend 336 (12:40:32 PM): then i was like oh [censored] shammys gone
Celeris123456789 (12:40:33 PM): hahaha u thought i was scamming u?!? haha
Celeris123456789 (12:40:34 PM): sigh
Arch Fiend 336 (12:41:02 PM): just taking precautions lol
Celeris123456789 (12:42:08 PM): i understnad
Arch Fiend 336 (12:43:55 PM): well i got class ill be back later
Celeris123456789 (12:44:02 PM): ok
Celeris123456789 (12:44:56 PM): wait
Arch Fiend 336 (12:53:55 PM): what
Arch Fiend 336 (12:54:06 PM): did you call your bro?
Celeris123456789 (12:54:12 PM): no hes at work
Celeris123456789 (12:54:16 PM): heel be home soon
Arch Fiend 336 (12:55:03 PM): ok
Arch Fiend 336 (12:56:48 PM): [censored] i only have 2 bucks for lunch
Celeris123456789 (12:56:53 PM): hahhahaha
Arch Fiend 336 (12:57:00 PM): damn
Arch Fiend 336 (12:57:04 PM): i had a 20 on me
Arch Fiend 336 (12:57:08 PM): but then i got high last night
Arch Fiend 336 (12:57:41 PM): well ima go to buy some food then go to class
Celeris123456789 (12:57:46 PM): ok man
Arch Fiend 336 (12:57:51 PM): text me CENSORED if anything happens
Arch Fiend 336 (3:53:07 PM): you back yet
Arch Fiend 336 (3:53:38 PM): why did you change the email on my rogue [censored], your the only with info so it had to be you
Arch Fiend 336 (4:01:17 PM): yt
Arch Fiend 336 (4:05:54 PM): you there
Arch Fiend 336 (4:11:49 PM): wow dude so you recall your shaman
Arch Fiend 336 (4:11:53 PM): and then my rogue
Arch Fiend 336 (4:21:56 PM): ok this dumb im calling off the deal since your not even telling me whats going on
Arch Fiend 336 (6:11:59 PM): you back
Celeris123456789 (7:15:26 PM): yo
Celeris123456789 (7:15:27 PM): im back
Celeris123456789 (7:15:31 PM): i just got back calm down jesus
Celeris123456789 (7:15:35 PM): let me read all these tells
Celeris123456789 returned at 7:15:51 PM
Celeris123456789 (7:16:49 PM): and NO i didint recall anything. i swear....I was letting hte deal sit mutually.
Celeris123456789 (7:17:45 PM): so...i ll say it again
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Now my irl friend got the guy playing on the rogue to chat with him on aim he has logs and I will have him post them the guy admits buying rogue from celeris

<span style="font-weight: bold">Pictures/Screenshots: </span> No pics can send mods the aim logs if needed
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other proof: </span> I have not had any problems with this account since I got off it directly off OO, but since I was going to trade celeris now all kinds of [censored] has happened and hes trying to turn the tables on OO. I know for a fact it wasnt oo and i could bring him into this if needed.


<span style="color: #66FFFF"><span style="font-weight: bold">Additional Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Yes he was well repped so i hoped for the best
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span>No
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on Markee Dragon?:</span> Not sure probably around 20 id say

 

[nomercy88-banned]

I am a Irl freind of himlers i contacted the person playing the rogue ingame i told him to hit me up on my aim:nomercy8854 here are the log that he Bought the char from celeris.

This dude was very immature and stupid but Mods/Admins get at me if u need anything.

 

[krik23]

This is absolutely ridiculous. As fas as i know/knew/have known, the rogue hasnt been pushed or shoved from anyone. My shaman was taken and nothing to show for. I dont know whats going on, and my shaman was taken before anything happened ot the rogue. As far as this kid arch fiend, he needs to get his facts straight. I in no way am a "scammer" (Worked too hard since 2005 for that to happen, and dont feel that that road is a road I should be taking..EVER)...I encourage both parties to get in touch with me to ensure a secure solution, thats the best I can do. I thought something was taken FROM me, i acted. period. You can put this scammer thread away because your AIM logs are 100% purebread stupid archfiend and they just go to show how I run my trades, not how i RUIN trades. So go ahead and settle things on AIM and MESSAGE ME before you go putting MD's most legit on these forums.

 

[krik23]

P.S. MODS / admins PLEASE get with me Id love to talk

 

[MARCKLAM]

we are watching this, you need only contact us if you wish to talk

 

[Himler]

Here is 7 pages of logs they are in order and like i said i dont mind sending a mod the entire aim log.

He admits hes the one to recall my rogue after saying we would let the deal sit mutually until he figures out what happened to his shammy

and now apperntly hes saying that since i had the shaman for LESS than a day its now my problem that it got recalled

 

[krik23]

Let me point out, this man is making himself look dumber and dumber with every post. HIS ORIGINAL OWNER was the owner who could not even rememebr what EMAIL the rogue was originally under. Go figure he's legit right?...lmao...i had to WAIT just to get the EMAIL changed..never happened, so i called for what was mine. I cant wait for an admin to get back and someone be put under for this defamation.

Point out where I acted "scammer accordingly"....lmao..u make no sense my buddy..at all..im sorry you have the yearning to act like a child.

 

[Himler]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krik23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me point out, this man is making himself look dumber and dumber with every post. HIS ORIGINAL OWNER was the owner who could not even rememebr what EMAIL the rogue was originally under. Go figure he's legit right?...lmao...i had to WAIT just to get the EMAIL changed..never happened, so i called for what was mine. I cant wait for an admin to get back and someone be put under for this defamation.

Point out where I acted "scammer accordingly"....lmao..u make no sense my buddy..at all..im sorry you have the yearning to act like a child. </div></div>
dont try to blame my oo for this i had it swiched to my email instead of yours since the shaman got recalled

 

[Himler]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not certain I understand what's happened here. Rogue was traded for Shaman (partial account info provided(and I assume it was acct name and pass and sq/sa?)), next day, Shaman gets recalled and OP recalls his rogue (if I'm correct). Then, rogue is recalled again from the OP? Is this how it went down? </div></div>
yes i took back the rogue and he aggreed to let it sit mutually, but then he recalls my rogue back from me without my permission and thats where the situation sits, atm i have nothing.

 

[krik23]

I AGREED TO A MUTUAL SIT BECAUSE I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO TALK TO THE OO OF THE SHAMAN, when he said he had no involvement...i took action into my own hands and took back what was mine. period. hes playing this off to pity an account. period.

 

[Himler]

Thats [censored] i wouldnt have even bothered with you if i wasnt interested in that shaman i even downgraded for it. And then before we even finalize the trade you go and spam trade my rogue gj.

 

[krik23]

whats a spam trade? dont get it..i didintspam anyone..sorry.

if an admin would like to discuss this, i wish they would do it in ap rofessional manner and commit to hearing both sides before you here this immature child's one sided [censored]

 

[Himler]

Sorry spam trading is to hard of a concept for you to get i mean those words are almost a different language. And apperently its professional to recall the rogue back from me instead of recalling your shaman and see what was up with that.

 

[Vampire]

The question is who recalled the shaman, so krik23 why don't you get back the shaman back to Himler? Shouldn't be hard if you know OO.

 

[KCJAccountscom]

Banned - banned

Krik has had tons of issues in the past.

Key Points:

If the person on rogue said Celeris or w/e his gay name is sold to him, and hes saying he didnt sell the rogue -- how would this person happen to know his name?

He sold the account without the email or called into blizzard and got the email reset.. Not hard.

Shaman recalled within so many hours and here Krik is trying to defend like he didn't do anything, its traders/sellers like this that need to be shot in the head.

Playing stupid is the worst defense ever, and I can 99% guarantee you the person he "sold" to is Cel himself.

Ban this scrub.

 

[nomercy88-banned]

Where is Celeris Ban This Dude is stupid playing stupid ignoring everyone in game saying hes the OO your stupid celeris Mod/admins PLease Ban HIM!

 

[KCJAccountscom]

Banned - banned

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nomercy88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is Celeris Ban This Dude is stupid playing stupid ignoring everyone in game saying hes the OO your stupid celeris Mod/admins PLease Ban HIM!</div></div>

Whoa buddy, l2 type something that normal human beings can understand. Proper English, punctuation, & grammar may help.

 

[krik23]

Ban me? Ok wfshrimp we have had problems trading in the past. Dont let your immaturity in the business seep into my ordeal. Your lack of maturity and knowledge of the above situation is evident. I would more than happy get the shaman back for this man, even though it is his right and responsibility to do so. "Ban this scrub." Is not a proper way for a moderator and man of such high stature like yourself should be acting. I am sorry for the little mishap here but this little kid has misconstrued his way into all your minds to think I am something that I surely, can tell you...IM NOT. so, would a mod please pm me on aim..celeris123456789 thanks..will no longer keep bumping this thread ive had enough popularity due to nonsense lately.

 

[krik23]

GBS pm me on aim please, thanks.

 

[Himler]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krik23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ban me? Ok wfshrimp we have had problems trading in the past. Dont let your immaturity in the business seep into my ordeal. Your lack of maturity and knowledge of the above situation is evident. I would more than happy get the shaman back for this man, even though it is his right and responsibility to do so. "Ban this scrub." Is not a proper way for a moderator and man of such high stature like yourself should be acting. I am sorry for the little mishap here but this little kid has misconstrued his way into all your minds to think I am something that I surely, can tell you...IM NOT. so, would a mod please pm me on aim..celeris123456789 thanks..will no longer keep bumping this thread ive had enough popularity due to nonsense lately. </div></div>

I dont want the shammy anymore its a compromised account.

And PS you still haven't answered Gbs's question.

 

[krik23]

I sell / trade accounts daily maybe if he specified i can explain whats going on? I dont know..A mage? A rogue? another rogue? A warrior? many more ..? what else "HIMLER"

 

[nomercy88-banned]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krik23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I sell / trade accounts daily maybe if he specified i can explain whats going on? I dont know..A mage? A rogue? another rogue? A warrior? many more ..? what else "HIMLER" </div></div>


Ok Rogue, And another Rogue so you did sell it.. GG

 

[krik23]

I have my rogue? I traded the other rogue. GG. i thought we knew this a long time ago?..i never sold.

 

[nomercy88-banned]

Thats Bs Dude U traded/Sold the rogue So GG! Gl with the incoming Ban!

 

[Wulfpriest]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/412644-scammed-logged-stole-cash-then-logged-off-blocked-user-chat.html

Ive tried to cope with Cele but he's unreasonable. All you have to do is Recall the Shaman given Adrian's permission which is what you asked for, you even denied to do that after you were given it. It's simple to just recall your Shaman, reverse the compromised Rogue with your contact and uncompromise everything, but you STILL refuse. This guy needs to learn how to get this settled or get banned, because this is getting ridiculous. I was nice to him and everything, but he doesnt want to end this problem the easy way, so it will most likely result in him getting banned, so good luck cele I tried to help.

 

[krik23]

yeah because it was mine..i idint have the shaman?..how am i getting banend for that..id like an admin to please pm me.

and i am in every way reasonable...and wulfpriest what involvement do u have in the situation? None...not in ours..


Adrian your trying to do the same thing, trade a disputed account..that account is just as much urs as mine...because guess what...I DONT HAVE A SHAMAN NOW DO I?

 

[Wulfpriest]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/412644-scammed-logged-stole-cash-then-logged-off-blocked-user-chat.html

He tells me everything on his side of the story, tells me he retraded the rogue to a contact of his, and wants his shaman back. He asks for permission to recall it and presists to be irrational, an admin or mod needs to message him, have him recall the shaman, undo the trade with the rogue with this friend and have this be done, it's that simple.


GOAIron (5:02:28 PM): So... whyd you sell the rogue?
GOAIron (5:03:06 PM): I was about to do a trade with the guy
GOAIron (5:03:12 PM): You need to get this [censored] straightened out
GOAIron (5:03:19 PM): Get your [censored] shammy back and get his rogue back
Celeris123456789 (5:03:39 PM): a.) Who in the [censored] are you. I dont know what the [censored] is going on.
Celeris123456789 (5:03:47 PM): I didint take anyones [censored]. period.
Celeris123456789 (5:03:50 PM): i cant help you in that reguard.
GOAIron (5:04:18 PM): Im not asking for your help personally cele, you traded him a shaman, that got taken back, then during that time you resold the rogue
GOAIron (5:04:21 PM): Now it's compromised
GOAIron (5:04:26 PM): Im just asking you figure some [censored] out.
Celeris123456789 (5:04:49 PM): Who are you again? id be more than happy
Celeris123456789 (5:04:50 PM): to talkwith you
Celeris123456789 (5:04:52 PM): if i knew who i was talking to
Celeris123456789 (5:04:54 PM): to be honest.
GOAIron (5:05:11 PM): Im Wulfpriest on MD, I was looking at himler's thread when he told me what went down
Celeris123456789 (5:05:21 PM): hahah are you a mod or admin?
GOAIron (5:05:21 PM): So Im not "cussing you out"
GOAIron (5:05:23 PM): Nah
Celeris123456789 (5:06:02 PM): no I respect your side of things...and Im usually one to calm these issues down. I have been trying to help this guy all morning, which is something that he fails to recognize. I have been frustrated at his inept attempts to help himself and recall his OWN SHAMMY that nor the OO had nothing to do with.
Celeris123456789 (5:06:15 PM): He has all info, and I told him to recall what was rihtfully his, just like i did what was mine.
GOAIron (5:06:42 PM): But who did you resell the rogue to?
Celeris123456789 (5:06:47 PM): i didint sell anything
GOAIron (5:06:49 PM): Cant you just contact him, refund him?
GOAIron (5:06:54 PM): But we asked him on the game itself
Celeris123456789 (5:06:57 PM): it was traded. to a trade i had in contact.
Celeris123456789 (5:07:02 PM): well he lied..im sorry.
Celeris123456789 (5:07:10 PM): Since 2005 I have been honest with the community
Celeris123456789 (5:07:15 PM): people dont seem to remmeber who i am becuase im old school..
Celeris123456789 (5:07:20 PM): i do things the right way..period.
Celeris123456789 (5:07:24 PM): and Im not changing my policy now
Celeris123456789 (5:07:25 PM): nor never
Celeris123456789 (5:08:09 PM): The ONLY mistake I made, was trusting a little kid who couldnt handle the business and is now trying to get his peers to back him up and send me the most tells..do you know how immature he is being? When all hehas to do is call and get the shaman back? if he doesnt have it alreayd, i have no clue.
GOAIron (5:08:13 PM): I dont get it then... if the Shaman was recalled by your "brother" then cany ou just give it back if you didnt retrade it fully?
Celeris123456789 (5:08:15 PM): because the OO says it was him just playing off BS
Celeris123456789 (5:08:23 PM): No..the shaman WASNT RECALLED by my brother
Celeris123456789 (5:08:24 PM): re-read the log
Celeris123456789 (5:08:25 PM): i asked.
Celeris123456789 (5:08:38 PM): his logs are useless, might as well not even read..
Celeris123456789 (5:08:40 PM): lmao theyre so funny
Celeris123456789 (5:08:43 PM): as to why he posted them i have no idea
Celeris123456789 (5:08:51 PM): if that shows how u scam someone, the wanna be scammers are gonna be pretty pissed
Celeris123456789 (5:08:54 PM): that htats not informative enough
GOAIron (5:11:25 PM): So you said you retraded it right?
GOAIron (5:11:35 PM): Can you tell that contact that it's a compromised account?
GOAIron (5:11:38 PM): Redo everything
GOAIron (5:11:41 PM): And let's put this aside
Celeris123456789 (5:11:59 PM): Ill settle with a mod/admin to get this resolved.
GOAIron (5:12:04 PM): You recall the shaman, He'll recall the rogue, tell your contact to let go of the rogue and refund him whatever you gave him
GOAIron (5:12:21 PM): Dude it's the modest way
Celeris123456789 (5:12:24 PM): No offense but it in no way entails you, involves you not one bit. Ijust like my buiness between the person im dealing with and a mod/admin please.
Celeris123456789 (5:12:28 PM): I understnad what youre saying
Celeris123456789 (5:12:31 PM): thank you very much.
GOAIron (5:12:42 PM): Because if I trade my priest, and I get this rogue, and it gets recalled by your bystandard Im screwed man..
GOAIron (5:12:55 PM): I dont want that to happen
GOAIron (5:13:04 PM): I want a good resolution to this..
GOAIron (5:13:44 PM): Cele Im not trying to control the situation
GOAIron (5:13:52 PM): I just want you do to something for me
GOAIron (5:14:01 PM): Im trading for this rogue, I dont want it recalled by your friend
GOAIron (5:14:17 PM): Refund him whatever and tell him to lay off? Cause I dont want it recalled by a person who has no say in this
GOAIron (5:14:27 PM): Like I do? Mm a little, I was dragged into this
GOAIron (5:16:26 PM): Cele if this account gets recalled under my possession Im putting a thread up in your name dude, because Im asking you to do one simple thing, and that's to get the bystandard completely out of this.
GOAIron (5:16:36 PM): Refund him and get him out of this
GOAIron (5:16:48 PM): Ill trade the rogue and you two get your problem settled
GOAIron (5:17:02 PM): Because I do not want it recalled while I trade him a perfectly good Priest.
GOAIron (5:21:00 PM): Celeris honestly respond, I have a lot to do with this since Im going to be the rogue's future owner.
GOAIron (5:21:06 PM): I dont want it compromised..
Celeris123456789 (5:21:11 PM): I dont touch [censored].
Celeris123456789 (5:21:15 PM): I havent touched either accounts
Celeris123456789 (5:21:17 PM): since i traded it
Celeris123456789 (5:21:20 PM): i dont know what u want me to say
GOAIron (5:21:26 PM): You said you retraded it to a contact though
Celeris123456789 (5:21:34 PM): Yes I definately 100% did.
Celeris123456789 (5:21:41 PM): So talk to them
GOAIron (5:21:43 PM): So refund him, get him out of this
Celeris123456789 (5:21:44 PM): its not in my posession anymore
GOAIron (5:21:51 PM): Because he's going to recall it
Celeris123456789 (5:21:54 PM): They refund my shaman that they have
GOAIron (5:21:56 PM): And he's going to lose it either way
Celeris123456789 (5:21:58 PM): ill refund their account
GOAIron (5:22:17 PM): Ok if you dont mind me asking, what did you trade your contact for the rogue?
GOAIron (5:22:28 PM): Can't you just give it back to him and get the rogue?
GOAIron (5:22:33 PM): Tell him it's compromised
GOAIron (5:22:36 PM): Because it is..
GOAIron (5:22:48 PM): And it's going to get banned eventually and I dont want that..
GOAIron (5:22:57 PM): Get your contact out of this mess
GOAIron (5:23:13 PM): So it only involved the shaman and rogue account you know?
GOAIron (5:23:16 PM): Clean things up
Celeris123456789 (5:23:22 PM): My job, is to make money on these forums. Give me the shaman back..and I can two a three way reversal
Celeris123456789 (5:23:34 PM): besides that..all i can do is sit here and tel you im not a scammer..and u can deal with me or not..thats to the whole community
Celeris123456789 (5:23:40 PM): make it a staple on the front page
GOAIron (5:23:46 PM): I dont want to...
Celeris123456789 (5:24:04 PM): ok...so stop asking me to do something, thats gonna cost me time and money..ebcause this is why i dont deal with
Celeris123456789 (5:24:06 PM): immature kids.
Celeris123456789 (5:24:11 PM): and i advise u not to deal with this adrian kid
Celeris123456789 (5:24:26 PM): because hess an absolute immature kid ..the second something goes wrong thats not your doing, its flipped a [censored] on YOU and your on the scammer threads..
Celeris123456789 (5:24:30 PM): thats the situation im in..
Celeris123456789 (5:24:35 PM): if u dont see my side of things, there is no use in talking to me..
Celeris123456789 (5:24:44 PM): because everyone who has pmd me today that has not been a mod..is seeing a one way street here
GOAIron (5:24:47 PM): I see both, Id think you see that
GOAIron (5:24:58 PM): Here's the thing
GOAIron (5:25:08 PM): you wont lose money because you'll be refunding and getting the rogue account back
Celeris123456789 (5:25:13 PM): im just too frustrated at how he has defamed me today...and let it be known defamation is a fraudulent act..him calling me a scammer is uncalled for.
GOAIron (5:25:16 PM): Getting the bystandard out of this will make it that much easier
Celeris123456789 (5:25:26 PM): oh ..but i do lose money
GOAIron (5:25:30 PM): Hows that?
Celeris123456789 (5:25:35 PM): My shaman? Rogue?
Celeris123456789 (5:25:37 PM): i dont have either
GOAIron (5:25:47 PM): He's going to lose the account dud eIm trying to save him money.
GOAIron (5:25:49 PM): He has the rogue
GOAIron (5:25:56 PM): If he just gives you the rogue back
GOAIron (5:26:00 PM): And you give money back
GOAIron (5:26:04 PM): You dont lose a damn thing
Celeris123456789 (5:26:09 PM): Its his..your gonna have to take it from him.
Celeris123456789 (5:26:12 PM): Im sorry.
GOAIron (5:26:18 PM): It's compromised dude
GOAIron (5:26:21 PM): It's going to get banned
Celeris123456789 (5:26:36 PM): the OO is your guys' best firend..send in ID.
GOAIron (5:26:36 PM): And you're going to lose money, whyc an you see Im trying to help you out?
Celeris123456789 (5:26:44 PM): I already did lose money..
Celeris123456789 (5:26:46 PM): a long time ago in this process.
Celeris123456789 (5:26:48 PM): alot of it.
Celeris123456789 (5:27:07 PM): Your not helping me out at all..people have been saying ur exact thing all day..no one understands..youve just happen to be the most respectful one
Celeris123456789 (5:27:09 PM): which i thank you for.
Celeris123456789 (5:27:12 PM): its refreshing
GOAIron (5:27:54 PM): So Im just a...Liablility? That's stupid, dude look. Your contact has the rogue, you have his "money or account he traded" Just reverse the trade because Adrian is having the OO recover the account
GOAIron (5:28:01 PM): And if this cannonballs back and forth he's going to lose it
GOAIron (5:28:08 PM): And you'll have to refund him
Celeris123456789 (5:28:23 PM): how about this..he gets me back my shaman..then i get my shaman..the rogue guy gets his account i traded him for
Celeris123456789 (5:28:26 PM): and we go back to square one
Celeris123456789 (5:28:28 PM): with the simple fact that
Celeris123456789 (5:28:34 PM): adrian is a proven immature kid
GOAIron (5:30:08 PM): Cant you recall the shammy?
Celeris123456789 (5:30:12 PM): Its his property
Celeris123456789 (5:30:15 PM): he recalls it
Celeris123456789 (5:30:17 PM): if he wants this to go away
Celeris123456789 (5:30:18 PM): he can recall it
Celeris123456789 (5:30:20 PM): if u want to be happy
Celeris123456789 (5:30:21 PM): u can recall it
Celeris123456789 (5:30:23 PM): im not recalling his [censored]
GOAIron (5:30:25 PM): What if I got his permission?
Celeris123456789 (5:30:27 PM): thatd be scamming
Celeris123456789 (5:30:29 PM): go ahead, do it.
GOAIron (5:30:48 PM): Im on vent with him
GOAIron (5:31:03 PM): Ok
GOAIron (5:31:06 PM): He should message you
Celeris123456789 (5:34:05 PM): not recalling anything
Celeris123456789 (5:34:06 PM): his job
GOAIron (5:34:17 PM): He gave you permission
GOAIron (5:34:18 PM): Just do it
GOAIron (5:34:27 PM): And we can get this whole thing outta the way
GOAIron (5:34:35 PM): Then reverse the trade with your contact
GOAIron (5:34:43 PM): Uncompromise the two accounts
GOAIron (5:34:48 PM): And act like it never happened
GOAIron (5:34:52 PM): Have the scammer thread nulled
GOAIron (5:34:55 PM): It's that simple..
Celeris123456789 (5:34:57 PM): the scammer thread
Celeris123456789 (5:35:01 PM): is gonna get nulled IRREGUARDLESS...
Celeris123456789 (5:35:03 PM): because ...well
Celeris123456789 (5:35:04 PM): haha its simple
Celeris123456789 (5:35:06 PM): IM NOT A SCAMMER
Celeris123456789 (5:35:10 PM): AND IN NO WAY SCAMMED..THAT KID.
Celeris123456789 (5:35:12 PM): lmao..period.
GOAIron (5:35:17 PM): Dude calm down, Im not saying you did
GOAIron (5:35:20 PM): Just recall the shaman
Celeris123456789 (5:35:24 PM): ok, then the scammer thread has nothign to do with it
GOAIron (5:35:27 PM): Nah
GOAIron (5:35:32 PM): BEcause if you just recall the shaman
GOAIron (5:35:38 PM): Reverse the trade
GOAIron (5:35:42 PM): It will all be over with
GOAIron (5:35:46 PM): I dont see why it's that hard to do
GOAIron (5:36:37 PM): Everyone is obviously confused
GOAIron (5:36:51 PM): And either way both account are going to get banned if you dont just recall the shaman
GOAIron (5:36:55 PM): Then get back the rogue.
Celeris123456789 (5:37:16 PM): im not recalling the shaman and its what i want..my own toon back
Celeris123456789 (5:37:19 PM): so u go ahead
Celeris123456789 (5:37:20 PM): and do that
Celeris123456789 (5:37:22 PM): either one of u
Celeris123456789 (5:37:28 PM): im not responding to anyone unless its a mod.
GOAIron (5:37:29 PM): Why cant you do it?
Celeris123456789 (5:37:31 PM): ever again
Celeris123456789 (5:37:34 PM): unless its shammy account info
GOAIron (5:37:55 PM): Cele just recall the shaman, take a SS of Adrian giving you permission
GOAIron (5:38:05 PM): Dont be unreasonable

 

[Wulfpriest]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/412644-scammed-logged-stole-cash-then-logged-off-blocked-user-chat.html

It's my involvment because I was going to do business with him if you must know, plus he's a friend of mine so I might as well help out with the situation, that's my involvement, that enough or do you want more?

 

[Himler]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krik23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yeah because it was mine..i idint have the shaman?..how am i getting banend for that..id like an admin to please pm me.

and i am in every way reasonable...and wulfpriest what involvement do u have in the situation? None...not in ours..


Adrian your trying to do the same thing, trade a disuted account..that account is just as much hurs as mine...because guess what...I DONT HAVE A SHAMAN NOW DO I? </div></div>

the problem is the shaman you gave me is missing after a day that your most likely responsible for. And im wondering where you get the idea of me trading a disuted account from LOL.

 

[krik23]

yeah ur trying to trade the rogue to wulf before u even have it..obviously its disputed...ur trying to do what i did unfortunately..and in a worse manner..the rogue was actualy rightfully mine...get my shaman back, u get ur [censored] back..its easy..take this stupid scammer thread off..its ludacris to think i scammed u after ive sat and dealt with ur defamation all day

 

[Wulfpriest]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/412644-scammed-logged-stole-cash-then-logged-off-blocked-user-chat.html

Well he didn't try to trade me because he didn't tell me what's up until last night, and said he traded for a shaman, but it got recalled so Im just trying to mend the situation, just recall your shammy and return the rogue.

 

[krik23]

he needs to recall his OWN shammy. and ill help return the rogue. in the meantime delete this pointless thread peace.

 

[Himler]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krik23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yeah ur trying to trade the rogue to wulf before u even have it..obviously its disputed...ur trying to do what i did unfortunately..and in a worse manner..the rogue was actualy rightfully mine...get my shaman back, u get ur [censored] back..its easy..take this stupid scammer thread off..its ludacris to think i scammed u after ive sat and dealt with ur defamation all day </div></div>

why would i recall the shammy for you when you couldve just done that instead of recalling my rogue that i was holding onto so we couldve just retraded, but now your trying to make false accusations against me which you dont even have evidence of. And also now your saying that "your" giving me the rogue back but i thought you said 5min ago that my rogue isnt in your possesion.

 

[Himler]

made a final attempt to reason but it doesnt seem like it will happen
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Arch Fiend 336 (6:26:54 PM): start geting the rogue back
Arch Fiend 336 (6:26:58 PM): while i call for shammy
Celeris123456789 (6:27:06 PM): that whatever person isnt here...i cantstart getting anything
Celeris123456789 (6:27:09 PM): until i see a shaman
Arch Fiend 336 (6:27:23 PM): dude that shaman was lost by someone on your end anyway
Celeris123456789 (6:27:31 PM): no, it wasnt. and it sure as hell
Celeris123456789 (6:27:31 PM): wasnt me
Arch Fiend 336 (6:27:32 PM): you should be happy im recalling for you
Celeris123456789 (6:27:41 PM): ok im happy? cool. you should be happy im not a scammer
Celeris123456789 (6:27:42 PM): but look at you
Celeris123456789 (6:27:47 PM): your ungrateful and have sent people to rip me
Celeris123456789 (6:27:47 PM): all day
Celeris123456789 (6:27:53 PM): and posted a thread
Celeris123456789 (6:27:54 PM): and defamed me
Celeris123456789 (6:27:55 PM): for no reason
Arch Fiend 336 (6:28:04 PM): im a lovable person
Celeris123456789 (6:28:04 PM): here i am gonna get ur rogue back?
Celeris123456789 (6:28:14 PM): see this [censored]...nah ur a [censored] bro..look at urself..u posted..when u knew i didint jack ur [censored]?
Celeris123456789 (6:28:17 PM): how could u do that?
Celeris123456789 (6:28:20 PM): i dont understand. sorry.
Celeris123456789 (6:28:23 PM): just get it back not continuing this talk
Arch Fiend 336 (6:28:25 PM): it seemed that way
Arch Fiend 336 (6:28:32 PM): when you recalled my rogue
Celeris123456789 (6:28:33 PM): SEEMED..you get PROOF BEFORE YOU POST ON SCAMMER THREADS.
Celeris123456789 (6:28:35 PM): thats kind of ab ig deal
Celeris123456789 (6:28:40 PM): u [censored] idiot..and whe nall this is said and done
Arch Fiend 336 (6:28:45 PM): while i was waiting for you to work out the deal with the shammy
Celeris123456789 (6:28:49 PM): your getting a negative..for causing me problems..and ruining my rep
Celeris123456789 (6:28:55 PM): defamation like i said is a fraudulent act.
Arch Fiend 336 (6:29:03 PM): alright [censored] this
Arch Fiend 336 (6:29:12 PM): im tired of trying to resolve [censored] with you
Arch Fiend 336 (6:29:21 PM): im just gonna wait for lady a to get back
Celeris123456789 (6:29:24 PM): ....tired? ive the one thats been trying all day. lmao.
Celeris123456789 (6:29:26 PM): good id love to.
Celeris123456789 (6:30:53 PM): and like i siad
Celeris123456789 (6:30:55 PM): the second i see a shammy
Celeris123456789 (6:30:59 PM): the seoncd i get ur rogue back
Celeris123456789 (6:31:01 PM): offfer still stands.
Arch Fiend 336 (6:31:48 PM): no i rather have you banned and not get a negative
<span style="color: #FF0000"> Celeris123456789 (6:33:24 PM): trying to ban me..is like trying to ban the pope from the vatican...</span>i did nothing wrong..sorry
Celeris123456789 (6:33:26 PM): goodluck </div></div>

sorry i rather have you banned then let you leave me a negative for bringing this matter open to the public

 

[nomercy88-banned]

Where is the Ban on celeris???

 

[krik23]

not happening ..your dumb. the ban on a legit memebr of the community because i dont agree with your [censored] isnt happening. good day.

 

[Arazine]

Get this solved NOW or I ban everyone involved I'm sick of this [censored].

 

[Frostrage1034969]

Hey guys sorry it took me so long to respond to this issue, I am the Original Owner of the Rogue account. I just bought the rogue account this past december. I have traded on markee a few times all with successful results.

- First off adrian and I traded accounts with ease and completed the whole deal in less than 5 hours.

-From what I can tell this celerus character seems to be underaged or at least pre-teen, improper english and mass quantities of slang and cursing all throughout the trade

-I recalled the rogue for adrian since I'm the original owner of the account after Adrian told me that someone was messing with the account.

-Furthermore I've been in close contact with adrian after our trade and over the past few days just chatting about the game and each others accounts.

-Now on to Celerus-

Even though he may be verified whether his brother or him is the one causing all of this trouble, both of them should be banned or at least celerus ( Celerus and his Brother), because He clearly scammed Adrian ANDDDD even double scammed adrian after I took time out of my busy schedule and Recalled the rogue for adrian after he called me personally on my cell phone and told me someone was trying to hack the rogue from him on a deal gone wrong.

- once again im the Original owner of the Rogue account and have been in close contact with Adrain over the past few days, If needs be i will compromise the account by calling blizzard and having it frozen

-Please contact me if you need any info.

 

[krik23]

Arch Fiend 336 (9:38:58 PM): k
Arch Fiend 336 (9:39:20 PM): geting into acct right now gotta retrieve pw
Celeris123456789 (9:39:39 PM): see you couldve just done this
Celeris123456789 (9:39:41 PM): and we wouldnt hav ea problem
Celeris123456789 (9:39:44 PM): i coulda talked to OO..and everything
Celeris123456789 (9:39:53 PM): ensured it not happening again even tho he did i woulda warned him since u said..err
Celeris123456789 (9:39:54 PM): u didint do it
Celeris123456789 (9:39:57 PM): so..jesus christ
Arch Fiend 336 (9:40:06 PM): dude dont start
Celeris123456789 (9:40:06 PM): i wanted this easy way all along..
Celeris123456789 (9:40:13 PM): but look at u. look at what u did
Celeris123456789 (9:40:21 PM): udragged it a day and a half bro..honestly u cant say u handled this good
Celeris123456789 (9:40:26 PM): and u cant pass this [censored] on me..ive been wanting o do this all day
Arch Fiend 336 (9:40:39 PM): ill admit i jumped the gun a bit too soon
Celeris123456789 (9:40:44 PM): ok..thank you..



your all stupid. this is done and over. shaman back in his posession.

 

[Wulfpriest]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/412644-scammed-logged-stole-cash-then-logged-off-blocked-user-chat.html

Glad to hear it, done and done.

 

[KCJAccountscom]

Banned - banned

I still wouldnt' touch the rogue account or the shaman account.

1) Get your rogue back and keep it.

2) the shaman you got from cel I can guarantee will be re-recalled or banned eventually.

3) Cel isn't legit, I have known this for the past few years, hell how he is still around no idea. Didnt you say you quit MD 5+ time already but you always end up back here, and back here I mean in the scammer forum

4) And if your going to call people stupid/dumb, use proper grammer/correct grammer yourself.

Its you're, not your.

 

[Himler]

I have my rogue back and everything is good for the time being

 

[Arazine]

thank you gentlemen now that wasn't all that hard .

On that note ...I don't want to see either of you in here again.