Trade Guardian Dispute - Purchase Request via Trade Guardian Middleman #25720

[thenoobguy]

Information
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Purchase Date:20/08/2020
Date the problem begain:20/08/2020
Method of Contact Used (chat program): this website
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] IWantToSellDBDLegacy
Your Instant Messenger ID: thenoobguy

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/blo...legacy-many-maxed-out-characters-etc.1682871/
Approximate value of property: $1500 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? The Integrity

What is the dispute about? The account was hacked. The legacy was not legit. The seller self wrote to me that he lost his save some years before. I checked his savefile from 2018 because there is still a copy from steam cloud and the legacy about the seller wrote was not in this save file or in a hacked format so the offering is scam. The devs never allowed to use own backup saves and his savefile looks in some ways modified.

Other details / notes:

Like his trapper, when it should be a real legacy 2016 then it have it to look like this:

"CharacterDataID": 268435456, "CharacterDataValue": { "bloodWebLevel": 50, "prestigeLevel": 3, "timesConfronted": 0, "PrestigeEarnedDates": [ "0001-01-01T00:00:00Z", "0001-01-01T00:00:00Z", "0001-01-01T00:00:00Z" and his looks like this
"CharacterDataID": 268435456, "CharacterDataValue": { "bloodWebLevel": 50, "prestigeLevel": 3, "timesConfronted": 3, "PrestigeEarnedDates": [ "2018-02-22T22:20:45.82Z", "2018-02-22T22:48:03.072Z", "2018-02-22T23:00:47.799Z"

It was only possible to get legacy until 23/11/2016.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@IWantToSellDBDLegacy notified

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

@EpicNPC CM
1. Please remove the screenshot, still showing personal PRIVATE information containing my full name in the email !
2. I did NOT cheat like you can see in the post
3. User checked before purchase during livestream the account AND confirmed everything was OK after obtaining the account.
4. Hours go by
5. This person is suddenly showing data that CANNOT be obtained without using PHISHY 3rd party tools to obtain specific server data that are against the ToS of basicly any game.
6. I don't even know what he exactly posted but it could be from anyone, like I said, there is NO way to see these script unless you're using phishy programs that aren't even allowed (so how can this dispute stand if we don't even know whose information this is)

 

[thenoobguy]

In attachment the savefile from steam cloud. When you look at this archivment from this account legacy should be there.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198213316793/

So he offered nurse legacy 3, but when I watch his save file with nurse:

"CharacterDataID": 268435459,
"CharacterDataValue": {
"bloodWebLevel": 50,
"prestigeLevel": 0,
"timesConfronted": 3,
"PrestigeEarnedDates": [],
"bloodWebData": {
"versionNumber": 4,
"level": 1,
"ringData": [
{

Prestigelevel was at 2018 already 0 but it should be already 3 and some dates like I wrote above before 2016 should be in the save file but they are not there. The words with he used a backup are not truth too.

 

[thenoobguy]

... and to read the data is not difficult, because the developer used steam cloud until 2018 and changed then to an own save system but before this a save file was saved local from steam cloud in steam app folder.
I send the account data to the mm already back and I want a refund because the item is not as described. Because with ingame report the account get banned.

There was no magic btw. just checking what steam downloaded....and everyone who is login in this account and starting dbd get this file to check. Where was the problem to say oh this account is not legit or modified oh yeah the problem is then is it just ~60 USD worth and not more. Sure after the buy you said, you used your backup, but this file has nothing to to with a legit backup, it is just a bad hacked savefile.

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

thenoobguy has refunded the money on Paypal.
So I lost the money for my account and also lost the account.

He didnt give back my account but did take the money back ?
How on earth am I the "scamming" guy here?

I lost my 5k worth account without getting the money

 

[thenoobguy]

Please don't lie I opend a case that is true, but paypal declined it because of family payment. You have still the money. I gaved the account data back to @The Integrity.

 

[thenoobguy]

Here the message from paypal

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

Well I'm not sure what happened but paypal removed the money on my account, I don't have it either.
My account is currently red -1.226,13

That's why I want my account back, for me the money is gone and same for my account

 

[thenoobguy]

The account data has the mm and the transaction, but I have still no money. PayPal declined how you see in the screenshot.

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

See my attachment, paypal is still investigation

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

You posted a fake screenshot you are CLEARLY scamming me.
Transaction ID is incorrect, your screenshot suddenly shows english instead of german AND the case is still open for me and the money is removed from my account

 

[thenoobguy]

Here in german

 

[thenoobguy]

Can show a screenshot where is viewable that paypal take the money from you?

 

[thenoobguy]

You have still the money, the access to your account has @The Integrity so at the end I have nothing.

 

[thenoobguy]

There

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

Well, then we both have no money and no account

 

[thenoobguy]

Why 1223,13 EUR when I sended to you yesterday 1324,93 EUR ?

 

[thenoobguy]

Can you show the open case please?

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

I already did, but here is it again

 

[thenoobguy]

Its delayed paypal closed the case already and will release it some hours back. Normal run.

 

[thenoobguy]

Seller recoverd the account back with his phone number at steam.

 

[The Integrity]

Only staff can view this content.

 

[Angel]

@IWantToSellDBDLegacy you recovered the account back now please refund to @thenoobguy

 

[IWantToSellDBDLegacy]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trade-guardian-dispute-purchase-request-via-trade-guardian-middleman-25720.1683232/page-2

@Angel Please next time take the time to read the conversation.
Like I said plenty of times today. Paypal locked out the money in my account because @thenoobguy has requested a refund 1hr after doing the transaction.
I dont have the money, it is locked because of the chargeback that is going on, again, like I said plenty of times.

 

[Angel]

I have read a conversation but I would like to get video evidence instead of an image. Please get a video of your Paypal account with the whole process where you opening transactions and where it is shown that is the case is not closed. Upload a video on Youtube and post a URL here

 

[thenoobguy]

I posted already that PayPal closed the case. I made deeper screenshots in the Transaktion thread, where it was viewable that paypal closed the case and gaved no refund. Sorry my answer was to late I will create a Clip asap

 

[Angel]

@IWantToSellDBDLegacy claims that Paypal dispute are not closed yet so I want him to provide a video proof

 

[thenoobguy]

 

[thenoobguy]

He has now the account and the money so why he should respond?

 

[Angel]

@IWantToSellDBDLegacy please respond

 

[thenoobguy]

I guess he will not answer...

 

[Angel]

Ban in 24 hrs if no response

 

[thenoobguy]

Sad to have not the courage for an answer. I accepted my money is lost but I got his adress so I can give it to the police and my lawyer. It will not bring my money back but the feeling that I tried at least. Would I use again a mm yes because for first is it still safe and every sale has still a risk.

 

[thenoobguy]

I ask again paypal to send me an email where they say that the dispute is closed.

 

[thenoobguy]

I guess he will not come back... :/

 

[Angel]

Banned


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