ToonVendor - $2400 balance owed after consignment sale/failed bank wire

[Amdpt]

Information:
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Dispute Date: e.g. June 2nd 2012
Method of Contact Used: Email/Skype/GChat
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: ToonVendor
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: ToonVendor
Your Instant Messenger ID: Amdatpt

Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? Owed balance after consignment sale
Link of transaction thread: N/A
Approximate value of property: $2700 USD
Balance Owed: $2400 USD
Was a middleman used? No

Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
-Agreement was made for consignment sale for account bought through ToonVendor in the first place (Original transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acounts-auctions-buy-sell/410036-*vip*-[h]-cata-death-knight-%7C-12-000-achievement-points-%7C-realm-firsts-%7C-ilvl-365-a.html)
-Account handed over and wire information provided
-Wire sent and receipt provided
-Wire not received on date indicated/ToonVendor goes MIA
-Returned contact I go looking for funds with the bank
-Bank tells me sender must do this
-Email ToonVendor about this
-No returned contact from ToonVendor (Although active on forums/IM)

Other details / notes:
Dispute involved three individuals and ToonVendor
First Person Initials: A.C.
Second Person Initials: C.H (Me)
Third Person Initials: D.C.

This is quite a complicated story but I will explain best I can with as few words as possible. The account was purchased from ToonVendor for A.C. and paid for by C.H.*1 After six months or so A.C. went to ToonVendor and asked to sell the account via consignment. ToonVendor found an interested party and we began the process. C.H. was to receive the funds as he had initially paid for the account. A small portion of the funds $300 was sent to C.H. PayPal account as requested by him and was sent by ToonVendor’s associate KBK. C.H. asked for the remainder of the funds be sent to D.C. to save a trip to the bank whilst traveling constantly.*2 ToonVendor to sent the funds to D.C. with a wire receipt attached but funds were never received.

Notes:
*1 – Initial purchase was made as an attempt for some new family bonding.
*2 – C.H. frequently sends larger sums of money to D.C. and has no reason commit any wrongdoing.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Initial Agreement: Made between ToonVendor and A.C. (June 2nd)
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Required Wire Information Part One: Sent by C.H. to ToonVendor (June 7th)
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Required Wire Information Part Two: Sent by C.H. to ToonVendor (June 7th)
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PayPal Transaction Record: Sent by KBK to C.H. (June 26th)
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Transfer Receipt: Sent by ToonVendor to A.C. and C.H. (June 26th)
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Response to Wire Part One: GChat between ToonVendor and C.H. (August 20th)
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Response to Wire Part Two: GChat between ToonVendor and C.H. (August 20th)
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Bank Response: Sent by C.H. to ToonVendor (August 24th) Resent on August 29th and September 16th
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? Yes

All I want from John is for him to return my messages/emails/texts/calls. He said he would help me fix this problem but obviously is dodging talking to me. It seems the only way to get to talk to him is to post a dispute here. I just want this mistake on his end fixed up and the money sent over to me. There is no possible mistake on my part and I have made 100% sure of this. My guess is John’s knows of this mistake and for some reason can’t get the money returned or that he doesn't care.

John did provide me SS’s of the transaction as proof as also shows the incorrect information on them which either he or I can upload. I can also provide documentation proving no such transaction was received by D.C. or the bank and I can have these verified by a Justice of the Peace if need be. I can also provide unedited documents of the proof provided to any Mods if need be.

 

[Keiichi]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/

ToonVendor has been notified.

 

[EpicNPC]

Amdpt buys death knight for A.C from Toonvendor
A.C asks Toonvendor to resell the account for him (6 months later)
Toonvendor finds interested buyer
Amdpt receives $300 initial payment from KBK (toonvendors partner at the time)
Amdpt asks for the remaining funds to be sent to D.C
payment never received

In short Toonvendor sold an account for you and hasn't sent you your full share yet.

Waiting for TV to reply.

 

[EpicNPC]

TV has been notified via PM

 

[EpicNPC]

TV has been email notified.

 

[ToonVendor]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/473361-toonvendor-%242400-balance-owed-after-consignment-sale-failed-bank-wire.html

We've been over this, I sent the bank wire, he verified the receipt, now he's claiming that he didn't get the money months later, the receipt was confirmed, the money was debited, I talked to my bank and they said nothing can be done the money was wired months ago, I don't know what to do at this point.

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Found this receipt whilst digging around in my inbox -



Chris, please post the scan of the receipt I sent you that I got directly from the bank after sending the wire. This shows that I have a receipt for before the wire, after the wire completed, and a screenshot of the successfully posted transaction.

I'm not sure what else I can provide to show that I sent you the money. If you didn't receive it, that's on your end, as clearly my end is covered.

 

[Amdpt]

I’m not disputing that you tried to send the funds and I am not disputing that you provided proof that you tried to send them. I am just disputing because I didn't get the funds. The only reason we didn't get this resolved sooner is because you went MIA and I had tried to contact you about this although I gave you some room to move considering you were going through a rough patch. Which I now see as a total mistake on my part so you using that excuse is pretty poor, even more so since you have been ignoring my attempts to contact you (email/text/calls/skype) since August 24th about going forward to fix this problem. When I know for a fact that you have been active on these forums and through IM/phone platforms selling and replying to threads.

When exactly did you talk to your bank about it? Because you had said to me we you would go to corporate with your bank if nothing could be done on my end, which nothing can. The Transfer Receipt is already posted in the proof section. The ONLY possible reason the transfer did not come through on my end is due to someone plugging in incorrect information on your end. If you note the email where I sent you the wire information you’ll notice that you/your bank has entered D.C.’s middle name as her last name which can be seen both in the receipt I had provided and the SS’s you have uploaded. Her last name can be seen in the email I had sent to you earlier with the wire information (also in the proof section), CLEARLY showing in a very easy to read format all the required wire information. I’m not sure if you have read the email regarding what the bank came back to me with, the one I have sent to you three times with no reply. The bank pretty much said to me there is nothing we can do on our end and you must do the following up seeing as you sent the funds, which you said you would be happy to do for me. But they did say it should be an easy fix on your end seeing as they thought the money would be out in the void. You would just need to pay for a trace (est. $35 cost) and they would be able to find it in five to ten working days. By the way I am not sure what kind of crack your bank is on but is just completely false for them/you to say “there is nothing we can do” as mentioned above a trace is one solution of a few. As far as I am concerned this is a problem on your end considering the incorrect information is no fault of mine and I have done everything in my power to fix it on my end as well as being exceptionally patient and or stupid with you, depending on how you look at it, whilst you were going through a tough personal time.

What I really don’t get is why you went all sour on A.C and myself? I don’t know how we had ever wronged you in any way throughout our entire history together, even throughout the payment plan we did for the DK initially* (see below link). We would only ever pay you praise to anyone we knew that was interested in buying/selling. Plus we only ever needed some support from you to get this fixed EASILY, again you said you were willing to provide.
To say I am disappointed is an extreme understatement. At this point I just want to get this fixed ASAP and get my money back.

Notes:
Developed Trust/Praise from TV: Email from TV to A.C. commending on-time payments (made by C.H.)

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*1: Screenshot provided has mostly omitted information as it is completely unrelated to the thread. Unmodified screenshot can be provided to any moderators if required, same goes for any other proof links I have provided.

 

[EpicNPC]

the receipt was confirmed, the money was debited, I talked to my bank and they said nothing can be done the money was wired months ago, I don't know what to do at this point.

I see that the middlename was used as the last name in the screenshot Toonvendor posted, but having done wires before, there's no way that this payment could have been successfully delivered. I've had wires denied over the slightest errors in the past, so unless this was a major major screw up by the bank, this money is stilling in limbo right now.

Toonvendor, you need to contact your bank and find out exactly where this money went. They are liable for the transfer even if there was an typo or error in the info submitted. The wrong last name is meaningless as there's lots of other info that must still match up, most importantly the bank account number. If it was deposited into someone elses account, that's 100% the banks fault and they need to fix it.

Please get in contact with your bank to resolve this.

 

[EpicNPC]

Waiting on an update from you Toon. The bank has to tell you where the money was sent to as they are 100% responsible for making sure the info is correct and matches.

 

[EpicNPC]

Toon, still waiting for an update.

Deadline will be Tuesday Oct 23 for an answer on where the money went. After that a temp ban will be issued.

 

[EpicNPC]

24 hrs to ban

 

[EpicNPC]

Toonvendor has been banned for failing to resolve this. If he eventually resolves the issue with the bank and sends you payment, please notify me or a mod.