Threatened & Chargebacked

blendy · Aug 5, 2023

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Descream4 · Aug 5, 2023

@robloxmvp

SaltnVinegar · Aug 6, 2023

Online and no response

Descream4 · Aug 6, 2023

@robloxmvp 24 hours

robloxmvp · Aug 7, 2023

What is there to be responding to?

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Descream4 · Aug 7, 2023

robloxmvp said:
What is there to be responding to?

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I think you don’t need to see the contents of the dispute to know what happened. Why did you threaten the seller & open a chargeback against them?

robloxmvp · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

@robloxmvp said:
“We both said some nasty things to each other.
I threatened because I was sure the seller would not come to terms - I thought that the transaction was unfair.
They themselves casually threatened to remotely ban my DbD game account which I'm sure they do not mention.

I opened a chargeback, the chargeback was near instantly denied by PayPal.
In the end, the seller ended up refunding all my payments by themselves.
I don't have anything more to add to this discussion.”

@blendy Did you issue the refund yourself or was it decided by PayPal? Were the purchased item(s) returned?

blendy · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 said:
@robloxmvp said:
“We both said some nasty things to each other.
I threatened because I was sure the seller would not come to terms - I thought that the transaction was unfair.
They themselves casually threatened to remotely ban my DbD game account which I'm sure they do not mention.

I opened a chargeback, the chargeback was near instantly denied by PayPal.
In the end, the seller ended up refunding all my payments by themselves.
I don't have anything more to add to this discussion.”

@blendy Did you issue the refund yourself or was it decided by PayPal? Were the purchased item(s) returned?

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

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So was the refund given after PayPal ruled in your favour? Or did you not await the dispute result & decided to refund willingly before they could potentially rule in his favour? And did you get your items back or not?

blendy · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 said:
So was the refund given after PayPal ruled in your favour? Or did you not await the dispute result & decided to refund willingly before they could potentially rule in his favour? And did you get your items back or not?

Yes.

I did not get my items back.

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

blendy said:
Yes.

I did not get my items back.

So refund before or after PayPal ruled on the dispute? And am I right to assume that buyer still has these items then?

blendy · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 said:
So refund before or after PayPal ruled on the dispute? And am I right to assume that buyer still has these items then?

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

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If a dispute is opened, there are only 2 possibilities: 1. Seller does not initiate a refund. PayPal will look at the evidence and either accept or deny the refund request or 2. Seller accepts the refund request & refunds buyer’s money. In that case, PayPal does not rule because the dispute is resolved.

Only other option is buyer cancels but that obviously didn’t happen here.

So which of the 2 scenarios happened? In case of the former, the dispute would have been gone already before you refunded him.

blendy · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 said:
If a dispute is opened, there are only 2 possibilities: 1. Seller does not initiate a refund. PayPal will look at the evidence and either accept or deny the refund request or 2. Seller accepts the refund request & refunds buyer’s money. In that case, PayPal does not rule because the dispute is resolved.

Only other option is buyer cancels but that obviously didn’t happen here.

So which of the 2 scenarios happened? In case of the former, the dispute would have been gone already before you refunded him.

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

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blendy · Aug 8, 2023

Descream4 said:
I’m not sure what I’m looking at here. You said you initiated the refund yourself, but this seems more like PayPal decided in his favour & you never initiated anything. Also have no idea what that Discord screenshot is supposed to mean.

Descream4 · Aug 8, 2023

Additional context provided privately.

Buyer @robloxmvp charged back the payment. No refund was provided. Buyer now holds items & money. Buyer purchased from seller on 3 different occasions, all 3 payments were disputed & ruled in buyer’s favour.

@robloxmvp You must either return the money or the items. In case of the money, we will mark this dispute as resolved. For the items, we will mark this as forced tradeback & you will get your first & final warning for this.

Since you lied about what went down & have been stalling since the start, you will have 24 hours to comply. Failure to comply will result in a ban.

Descream4 · Aug 9, 2023

Online twice without response. Threatened buyer again in private.

Banned

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Threatened & Chargebacked

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