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TG 62366 problem

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Dispute Type
Country
United States
Multiple Accounts
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Dispute Against
Delac
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Information
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Purchase Date: 8/1/2022
Date the problem began: 8/1/2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC, and then Discord after
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] Delac and EpicNPC
Your Instant Messenger ID: juuni85

Other information:
This was my first transaction and I was using MM. I didn't catch the line about "buyer do NOT pay until.." After I paid, the user rou_sier was banned. MM wouldn't give me the account. Rou_sier contacted me through paypal with his Discord:

Was given the account name and password, but I can't sign in because it seems like the MM might have changed the password.
I don't see the point in rou_sier communicating with me after if he's a scammer.
On the other hand, I haven't been getting any messages from Delac or EpicNPC about the account I paid for.
It kind of feels like I'm being scammed by them from this account rather than from rou_sier who's actually communicating with me.

I was told by Delac, "He needs to refund you,as admin said,i cant do much."
Honestly, from a first-time user here, it feels like they're trying to keep the account and resell it themselves. I know that's a ridiculous claim, but what can I do when rou_sier is responding me when Delac and EpicNPC aren't.


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):
  • Purchase Request via Trade Guardian Middleman #62366
Approximate value of property: $160.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? #62366

What is the dispute about? The seller was banned without giving him time to dispute it and the transaction was cancelled. Please read above for additional info.

Other details / notes:


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 

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A payment alert was trigged by the seller.
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/rou-sier.1414670/

He had a previously banned account for failing to resolve a dispute.
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/nisekoi.1271339/
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/nisekoi-and-ashiteru-are-scammers-together.1973537

The payment alerts stated
MM is investigating. Buyer please do NOT send payment to the seller until the MM confirms everything is okay.

This was ignored by you or you didn't see it and you sent the payment to the seller anyway.

We banned 'rou sier' and he was notified to issue a full refund.

We do not complete transactions from banned members. I'm sorry. We do not do that.

Once you recieve a 100% refund, the account will be returned to him.

'rou sier' will then have to resolve his old dispute if he wished to get unbanned.

If you want to accept an account from a known scammer, that's your decision, but his ban will be permanent and we will count this as scam #2.
 
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