Summoners War Dispute

[TaylorDream]

Trade Guardian ID #

79668

Dispute Against

Luffyxito

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Information
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Purchase Date: May 2, 2023
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/global-server-3-lnd-vip-runes-with-woosa-rta-skin.2499347/
Approximate value of item/service: $300.00 USD
Date the problem began: May 8, 2023

Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site?
On-site



DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about?
I bought the account using Trade Guardian from Luffyxito. I was only able to play on the account for about a week until I received an email that the Hive email has been changed without my permission. I brought this up to Luffyxito who said they bought the account from the original owner, and when asked about what was going on, Luffyxito was blocked. I was looking through the forum for a new account only to find the account that i bought up for sell by someone else.
i believe the account was recalled by the original owner. Their Hive ID is the same as their discord name, and in the information or tags on the post says they are the original owner.
Here is the thread to the post I found that has the account I bought and was recalled.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sel...ne-packed-3ld-5-beelz-pontos-eleanor.2520378/

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:

It's kind of hard to show proof as I only had the account for a week. I think I can only show my email of notification of confirmed email changes and password modifications as well as when the account was recalled. I will also post a screenshot of my payment to Luffyxito.
If there is something more I can provide, I will try and see if I have it.

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[Angel]

@Luffyxito

 

[Luffyxito]

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i bought from facebook and i really dont know about recovery
i am a reseller

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

many kind of people sell me
i sell everywhere fb website with legity but this acc onwer was very suspicious

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

i take the risk bought this acc

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

i already talk to him he already block to me

 

[TaylorDream]

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@Luffyxito

Basically, the new user greandek sold his original account to Luffyxito who then sold it to me, and then after a week of me having the account, greandek recalled the account and is now trying to sell on this site, this is the thread:

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sel...ne-packed-3ld-5-beelz-pontos-eleanor.2520378/

When confronted by luffyxito on Facebook, greandek blocked them.

 

[Angel]

@greandek

 

[greandek]

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Oh, I've just noticed this thread and I need to clarify, the account wasn't sold, I got scammed and the person who took my account resold it before It could be recovered.
If you're involved with the acc pls contact me via discord
Ps. I don't think I'm the one who block ppl and the confrontation? (show evidence pls, chat history is not deleted when you got blocked because I also got blocked and still have the scammer chat history), I have all the screenshots and evidence to my claim!

 

[greandek]

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I am the original owner of this account and have been playing it for 9 years. I was so busy that I barely had time to play the games properly, it was a tough decision to let it go but finally decided to sell it by late April.
The idea of selling the account was never in my mind, the other time I quit, I was just leaving it be since this acc has been with me for so long but finally figured it was the time to let it go.

I basically have no knowledge whatsoever of trading/selling game accounts so with my simple-minded thought, I just went on a Facebook group and post it, then I got scammed on May 2nd. I didn't even know at first that I was scammed until there was a person who was also interested in my acc, talked to me, and noticed something was wrong(I came to know later that he's actually another reseller on this site, prefer not to mention/bother him if not necessary). Then he pointed out that the scammer was trying to make another reseller sell the account for him, so I contacted the reseller(the person who pointed out that account recovery was possible). I almost gave up on my account there, but I went through a week of sending multiple e-mails to com2us to recover the account and fortunately, I was able to retrieve all the information needed and recovered the account successfully on May 12th. I was identifying all the damage done to my account and also sent another e-mail asking for account rollback to com2us but the request was denied. Thru the process of recovering and stuff, I had come to know this website and that's why I've just made an account and posted it here, I have no idea what actually happened earlier until I saw an e-mail notification that linked to this post(was taking a shower).

If you need further information pls contact me directly via Discord or if there's any other way to communicate pls do tell me.

Ps. I felt bad for the person who bought the account but I was a victim too. On the day I recovered the account I went in and I think I left a message in the guild chat that I'm the original owner and have just recovered my account and left the guild. I was thinking about it that the account could have been resold and I should contact the current owner, but I'd already left the guild by the time I realized.
Ps2. The attached picture was the message that the person who stole my account sent to me before blocking my account(there were 2 accounts used by the same person, I was blocked from both)

 

[greandek]

@TaylorDream @Angel

 

[TaylorDream]

I am the original owner of this account and have been playing it for 9 years. I was so busy that I barely had time to play the games properly, it was a tough decision to let it go but finally decided to sell it by late April.
The idea of selling the account was never in my mind, the other time I quit, I was just leaving it be since this acc has been with me for so long but finally figured it was the time to let it go.

I basically have no knowledge whatsoever of trading/selling game accounts so with my simple-minded thought, I just went on a Facebook group and post it, then I got scammed on May 2nd. I didn't even know at first that I was scammed until there was a person who was also interested in my acc, talked to me, and noticed something was wrong(I came to know later that he's actually another reseller on this site, prefer not to mention/bother him if not necessary). Then he pointed out that the scammer was trying to make another reseller sell the account for him, so I contacted the reseller(the person who pointed out that account recovery was possible). I almost gave up on my account there, but I went through a week of sending multiple e-mails to com2us to recover the account and fortunately, I was able to retrieve all the information needed and recovered the account successfully on May 12th. I was identifying all the damage done to my account and also sent another e-mail asking for account rollback to com2us but the request was denied. Thru the process of recovering and stuff, I had come to know this website and that's why I've just made an account and posted it here, I have no idea what actually happened earlier until I saw an e-mail notification that linked to this post(was taking a shower).

If you need further information pls contact me directly via Discord or if there's any other way to communicate pls do tell me.

Ps. I felt bad for the person who bought the account but I was a victim too. On the day I recovered the account I went in and I think I left a message in the guild chat that I'm the original owner and have just recovered my account and left the guild. I was thinking about it that the account could have been resold and I should contact the current owner, but I'd already left the guild by the time I realized.
Ps2. The attached picture was the message that the person who stole my account sent to me before blocking my account(there were 2 accounts used by the same person, I was blocked from both)

@Luffyxito if this is true, i want my money back :/
@greandek I didn't see the message in guild chat, cause it was about a week until I logged back on and found that I couldn't anymore. My main account was the guild leader of the guild so.

 

[greandek]

@Luffyxito if this is true, i want my money back :/
@greandek I didn't see the message in guild chat, cause it was about a week until I logged back on and found that I couldn't anymore. My main account was the guild leader of the guild so.

@TaylorDream Is there any way I can contact you(if you feel like it), I do want to discuss it. Because tbh, it is personal but I do want to find out the person who was the scammer too.
Ps. I don't know if you realized that, but my account for $300 was super shady, there's no way it would be sold around the corner for that cheap. I don't know if you're the one who did those changes to my account but 15k xtals were spent and dupe Diana was selected from the nat5 event(Idk, why the person who did it did it, there's a bunch of new monsters to be select)
As for Luffyxito, I don't know whom I can or can't trust anymore(don't even know if you're the person who scammed me), after that incident, but if you want to prove yourself innocent please do provide the information on where you've got that account from so that we might be able to lead our way to the scammer.

 

[TaylorDream]

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@TaylorDream Is there any way I can contact you(if you feel like it), I do want to discuss it. Because tbh, it is personal but I do want to find out the person who was the scammer too.
Ps. I don't know if you realized that, but my account for $300 was super shady, there's no way it would be sold around the corner for that cheap. I don't know if you're the one who did those changes to my account but 15k xtals were spent and dupe Diana was selected from the nat5 event(Idk, why the person who did it did it, there's a bunch of new monsters to be select)
As for Luffyxito, I don't know whom I can or can't trust anymore(don't even know if you're the person who scammed me), after that incident, but if you want to prove yourself innocent please do provide the information on where you've got that account from so that we might be able to lead our way to the scammer.

Yeah, I was friends with the account but I think you unadded me in game. My discord is TaylorDream#1833 I am at work right now about to get off lunch so I might not be able to respond quick.

 

[Angel]

Yeah, I was friends with the account but I think you unadded me in game. My discord is TaylorDream#1833 I am at work right now about to get off lunch so I might not be able to respond quick.

Can you post an image where did you send payment to the person who sold you this account?

 

[TaylorDream]

Can you post an image where did you send payment to the person who sold you this account?

We used venmo, luffyxito sent me their qr code through TG group, the other image is a screen **** of my payment to them.

 

[Angel]

I am sorry this question was for @Luffyxito

 

[Angel]

@Luffyxito

 

[Angel]

Any update here?

 

[TaylorDream]

Any update here?

No, luffy hasn't been on since Thursday

 

[Luffyxito]

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[Luffyxito]

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@Angel
i was lost 200 usd i bought with 200 usd from clark nobron on facebook
and @TaylorDream is refund from by venmo balance
thanks for everything

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

@TaylorDream u got money back right ?
@ orginal onwer account u got account back will good
@ is my fault buy from a scammer
is okay
thanks all guys
i dont talk about this case anymore thanks by again

 

[Angel]

@TaylorDream did you get your money back?

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

@Angel bro he already take back money bro i have more ss
u can check there 3 between only 1 lost money
it is me

 

[Luffyxito]

Banned - Evading Negative Feedback / TWC / Dispute / Staff Abuse - soemintun

@Angel justice for me