Shady character - rawrbeast // rawrbeast007 on AIM - BE WARY

[MDjellN]

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Banned - scammer - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/433961-scammed-mdjelln-trust-who-verified.html

rawrbeast contacted me via AIM in regards to http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...n-tiger-crimson-deathcharger.html#post2233675

He contacted me originally and offered to buyout the toon via WU, since he wasn't repped on paypal. I originally consented to this but he said that he wanted the account login info prior to actually purchasing the account, which made me wary only because the account info means nothing by itself, especially since I had an authenticator attached, but i conceded because i'd like to get this toon sold. Anywho, I let him log in, he runs around for a few minutes, gets dc'd somehow, wants to log in again, goes offline again, this time for several hours. He comes back wanting to log in to the toon again for some reason but I let him thinking that the transaction might one day go through.

I grew suspicious because I was on starcraft 2 at the time and I could track the account's progress via RealID and I noticed him heading to Elwynn forest. At this point all kinds of alarms were going off so I decided to cut him off and logged into the toon to find him in a group with a level 1 heading towards the start zone.

To be honest I might be totally wrong but either way this is incredibly shady activity, and not someone I want to deal with. As such I'd recommend avoiding them. Plus I don't see how being able to log into the account gives ANY sort of security - it doesn't.

AIM Logs:
rawrbeast007 (4:11:22 PM):hey
rawrbeast007 (4:11:30 PM):how much are you lookin for your toon ?
rawrbeast007 (4:11:52 PM):i posted
rawrbeast007 (4:13:38 PM):Hello ?
JCsVisionZ (4:25:01 PM):sorry back
JCsVisionZ (4:25:03 PM):was playing sc2
JCsVisionZ (4:25:12 PM):buyout is 1650, had 3 offers so far for 1500
rawrbeast007 (4:25:40 PM):ill take it
rawrbeast007 (4:25:41 PM):1650
rawrbeast007 (4:25:44 PM):BuyOuy
rawrbeast007 (4:25:47 PM):BuyOut
JCsVisionZ (4:58:25 PM):one sec
JCsVisionZ (4:59:10 PM):well, your rep is too low for me to use paypal with you, so it'll have to be western union, is that a problem?
rawrbeast007 (4:59:27 PM):nope
JCsVisionZ (4:59:37 PM):in that case, give me a minute.
JCsVisionZ (5:00:35 PM):can i get your email address and full name please? also are you american and do you have a number I can call you at?
JCsVisionZ (5:06:09 PM):are you wanting to do this now? or do you have more questions of me
rawrbeast007 signed off at 5:08:17 PM
rawrbeast007 (9:51:04 PM):lol
JCsVisionZ (9:51:11 PM):?
rawrbeast007 (9:51:17 PM):i oferd
rawrbeast007 (9:51:20 PM):1650 buyout
JCsVisionZ (9:51:23 PM):yes you did
JCsVisionZ (9:51:26 PM):and then you logged off
JCsVisionZ (9:51:29 PM):and never said anything
rawrbeast007 (9:51:47 PM):idk
rawrbeast007 (9:51:50 PM):my net
JCsVisionZ (9:52:00 PM):then you logged
rawrbeast007 (9:52:02 PM):ok
rawrbeast007 (9:52:04 PM):lets do it now
JCsVisionZ (9:52:12 PM):western union only
rawrbeast007 (9:52:17 PM):u first though
rawrbeast007 (9:52:20 PM):jsut login only
rawrbeast007 (9:52:31 PM):than when i pay
rawrbeast007 (9:52:34 PM):ill take the SQA.
JCsVisionZ (9:52:34 PM):meh nah, if you're worried about the character existing we can meet in game
JCsVisionZ (9:52:37 PM):i am TWV and repped
rawrbeast007 (9:52:40 PM):nope
JCsVisionZ (9:52:42 PM):and a 3 year member of mmobay
rawrbeast007 (9:52:43 PM):i just want somethin in hand
JCsVisionZ (9:52:50 PM):that means you go first
rawrbeast007 (9:52:54 PM): im not too desperate to loose 1650
rawrbeast007 (9:53:07 PM):u can either take it or leave it cause im doing it with WU too : /
JCsVisionZ (9:53:27 PM):the problem is this
JCsVisionZ (9:53:34 PM):i have my authenticator attached
JCsVisionZ (9:53:39 PM):and there is no way im taking it off til the money is in hand
rawrbeast007 (9:53:46 PM):thats no prob
JCsVisionZ (9:53:46 PM):with a non repped user
rawrbeast007 (9:53:48 PM):i just want code
rawrbeast007 (9:54:01 PM): gimme authenticator
JCsVisionZ (9:54:01 PM):im sorry that's just an odd request
rawrbeast007 (9:54:02 PM):code.
JCsVisionZ (9:54:06 PM):being as it gives you no security
rawrbeast007 (9:54:10 PM): i just want
rawrbeast007 (9:54:11 PM):something
rawrbeast007 (9:54:13 PM):inhand
rawrbeast007 (9:54:14 PM):in hand
rawrbeast007 (9:54:15 PM):b4
rawrbeast007 (9:54:17 PM):i do anthing
rawrbeast007 (9:54:22 PM):im not gonna send 1650
rawrbeast007 (9:54:24 PM):empty handed
rawrbeast007 (9:54:50 PM):what do you say
rawrbeast007 (9:54:51 PM):do it or not
JCsVisionZ (9:55:06 PM):yeah that's fine.
rawrbeast007 (9:55:11 PM):alright
rawrbeast007 (9:55:12 PM):login
JCsVisionZ (9:55:13 PM):i don't know why it makes you feel better tbh though
JCsVisionZ (9:55:15 PM):

rawrbeast007 (9:55:25 PM):it makes me not feel empty handed
rawrbeast007 (9:55:29 PM):btw
rawrbeast007 (9:55:31 PM):after you give me login
JCsVisionZ (9:55:33 PM):heh well, it just gives no security. dunno
rawrbeast007 (9:55:34 PM):ill need ur info
rawrbeast007 (9:55:36 PM):like wher u live.
JCsVisionZ (9:55:36 PM):yeah
rawrbeast007 (9:55:38 PM):etc.
rawrbeast007 (9:55:38 PM):so
JCsVisionZ (9:55:43 PM):give me a list of what you need
JCsVisionZ (9:55:45 PM):im multitasking atm
rawrbeast007 (9:55:51 PM): give me your login
rawrbeast007 (9:55:59 PM):and ill start makin the last
rawrbeast007 (9:56:02 PM):lit
rawrbeast007 (9:56:03 PM):list
JCsVisionZ (9:56:21 PM):*edited*
rawrbeast007 (9:56:22 PM):Name Adress Phone Number
JCsVisionZ (9:56:26 PM):tell me when you need code
rawrbeast007 (9:56:46 PM): k
JCsVisionZ (9:57:18 PM):you're only getting 1 so don't mess it up rawrbeast007 (9:57:26 PM):.........
rawrbeast007 (9:57:28 PM):gimme the code
rawrbeast007 (9:57:30 PM):dont push it
JCsVisionZ (9:57:33 PM):00220277
JCsVisionZ (9:57:42 PM):with 2 you can remove the authenticator
JCsVisionZ (9:57:42 PM):so.
rawrbeast007 (9:57:43 PM):my wife doesnt know
JCsVisionZ (9:57:43 PM):yeah
JCsVisionZ (9:57:57 PM):anyways if im a bit slows
JCsVisionZ (9:57:58 PM):sorry
JCsVisionZ (9:58:00 PM):doing icc10
JCsVisionZ (9:58:03 PM):talking to people
JCsVisionZ (9:58:07 PM):multitasking ahrd
JCsVisionZ (9:58:08 PM):hard
rawrbeast007 (9:58:21 PM):mmk
JCsVisionZ (10:01:01 PM):k
JCsVisionZ (10:01:22 PM):*personal info edited*
JCsVisionZ (10:01:27 PM):*phone number edited*
rawrbeast007 (10:01:32 PM):mmk
JCsVisionZ (10:01:37 PM):fyi that is not the name on the account, as i said
JCsVisionZ (10:01:40 PM):i am middlemanning
rawrbeast007 (10:02:17 PM):what
rawrbeast007 (10:02:22 PM):is
rawrbeast007 (10:02:23 PM):*edited*
JCsVisionZ (10:02:26 PM):?
rawrbeast007 (10:03:15 PM):dont u get crimson deathchartger
JCsVisionZ (10:03:21 PM):he has it yeah
JCsVisionZ (10:03:24 PM):shadowmourne quest reward
rawrbeast007 (10:09:35 PM):did u dc me
JCsVisionZ (10:09:43 PM):nope.
rawrbeast007 (10:09:54 PM):idk
rawrbeast007 (10:09:58 PM):my wow froze
JCsVisionZ (10:10:06 PM):dunno, im in icc atm
JCsVisionZ (10:10:15 PM):let me know when we can finish this up
rawrbeast007 (10:10:21 PM):k
rawrbeast007 (10:16:37 PM):u change pass?
JCsVisionZ (10:16:42 PM):no
rawrbeast007 (10:16:55 PM):wat ifo again?
JCsVisionZ (10:16:59 PM):sec
rawrbeast007 (10:17:02 PM):k
JCsVisionZ (10:17:24 PM):you just want info again?
rawrbeast007 (10:17:54 PM):yea
JCsVisionZ (10:17:56 PM):*edited*
rawrbeast007 (10:18:05 PM):code
JCsVisionZ (10:18:49 PM):96489752
rawrbeast007 (10:19:32 PM):k ty
rawrbeast007 (10:27:09 PM):why code change>
JCsVisionZ (10:27:17 PM):the code always changes
JCsVisionZ (10:27:22 PM):every 30 seconds or so
JCsVisionZ (10:27:30 PM):that's authenticator

rawrbeast007 (10:27:34 PM):o
rawrbeast007 signed off at 10:30:18 PM Friday, July 30, 2010
rawrbeast007 (3:36:06 AM):hey
rawrbeast007 (3:36:12 AM):i need login again
rawrbeast007 (3:41:08 AM):hey i need the login bro
rawrbeast007 (3:42:08 AM):hey man >
rawrbeast007 (3:43:21 AM):yo!
rawrbeast007 (3:43:55 AM): dude
rawrbeast007 (3:43:59 AM):whats the login mate
rawrbeast007 (3:47:29 AM):yo
rawrbeast007 (3:47:32 AM):omg dude
rawrbeast007 (3:47:35 AM):just gimme the login
JCsVisionZ (3:58:59 AM):i was in sc2
rawrbeast007 (3:59:03 AM):aah
JCsVisionZ (3:59:04 AM):didn't realize you were messaging me
rawrbeast007 (3:59:13 AM):lol ok
rawrbeast007 (3:59:15 AM):gimme the login plz
JCsVisionZ (3:59:16 AM):where did you go earlier?
rawrbeast007 (3:59:34 AM):i have a life
rawrbeast007 (3:59:38 AM):how do u think im paying
rawrbeast007 (3:59:40 AM):for that..
JCsVisionZ (3:59:57 AM):so that's a good reason to just disappear mid conversation while you've logged into my toon?

JCsVisionZ (3:59:58 AM):anyways
JCsVisionZ (4:00:00 AM):one sec
rawrbeast007 (4:00:16 AM):lol sorry. i have to make arrangements for this week
rawrbeast007 (4:00:20 AM):because thats my paycheck
JCsVisionZ (4:01:01 AM):*edited*
rawrbeast007 (4:01:22 AM):code ?
JCsVisionZ (4:01:30 AM):51284045
rawrbeast007 (4:07:46 AM):did u dc me
JCsVisionZ (4:08:16 AM):i like how you're in a group with a level 1 - scammer ******
JCsVisionZ (4:08:19 AM):get reported
rawrbeast007 (4:08:25 AM):wth ?
rawrbeast007 signed off at 4:08:29 AM

 

[KCRoyal06]

from what i can gather, legittraderonmm0 IS rawrbeast007. he got a few negatives, then made the rawrbeast007. ALSO i have dealt with this person in the past, tried to trade a druid for his pally, after trading all the information over to eachother, he then tells me, "I dont know the login password, or the battle.net email. so you will have to call blizz and use the ID i sent you". I then got my character back, told him that it was no appropriet to hold off until after I exchanged the information to tell me I have to call blizz to get EVERYTHING reset.

I also have dealt with him in the past telling me I should trade him a past toon that I had already traded off. Simply stating "recall it, and trade it to me" also have this
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: if i dont get the last name
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: i remember SQA
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: original acc name
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: and the first name
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: im shady on last name
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: it was like
[14:34] legittraderonmm0: Gibbons / Gibsons / Gibonsons

i have read about other people being suspicious about this person and his activity. Please DO beware

 

[EpicNPC]

Yes, they are the same person. All accounts have been banned