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Scammer: wowmage4u

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Date that scamming took place: Saturday, June 05, 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: wowmage4u
Your Instant Messenger ID: sobesobesobe
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: wowmage4u
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Scam Information
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What was scammed?: My WoW Account with an 80 Hunter
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-trading/387022-wtt-xbox-360-6-games-5-5k-gs-higher.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $300 USD

Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: I was going to trade my Hunter for his Xbox360. We talked for a while and I had him take pictures of the Xbox and games and such. I then gave him the account info and he went to the UPS store and purchased one of their boxes, and took a picture of the UPS box with the Xbox and games in it to prove that he had it ready to ship. I then gave him my shipping address and all of the WoW Account information. He told me that the Xbox was shipped Tuesday and that it was 2-day air delivery, so it should have arrived Thursday, or maybe Friday (today) at the latest. The Xbox has never arrived and wowmage4u has not been online at all.
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Chat Logs: The first time I contacted him was on AIM mobile, so I do not have the logs for that. I do have the logs for everything else though.
wowmage4u (9:42:02 AM):hey u there?
sobesobesobe (9:48:32 AM):just got home 1 min ago
sobesobesobe (9:48:37 AM):weird my aim was open
wowmage4u (9:48:53 AM):lol your were logged on all night i think
wowmage4u (9:48:59 AM):just woke up 10 mins ago
sobesobesobe (9:49:57 AM):oh i see
wowmage4u (9:51:39 AM):Ive never personally done something like this before so how do you wanna get this started?
wowmage4u (9:51:59 AM):we can start off with shipping address I guess
wowmage4u (9:52:23 AM):oh Im getting the box today
wowmage4u (9:52:32 AM):will be shipped either later today
wowmage4u (9:52:37 AM):or 2morro at latest
wowmage4u (9:54:39 AM):after shipping address we do all account info once everything is transferred to me including ID I will head out to get the box
wowmage4u (9:55:08 AM):and to go over all things that the deal will include
wowmage4u (9:55:38 AM):Xbox 360 charge and play kit all cables 20 gb harddrive wireless adapter and 6 games
sobesobesobe (9:55:50 AM):controller?
wowmage4u (9:55:56 AM):yes sorry
wowmage4u (9:55:57 AM):forgot
sobesobesobe (9:56:10 AM):what are the games? the picture only showed like 4
wowmage4u (9:56:12 AM):and red dead redemption has a 1 yr warranty
wowmage4u (9:56:36 AM):nba 2k9 madden 10 spiderman 3 left 4 dead 1 gears of war
wowmage4u (11:54:31 AM):I do need the info excluding the ID before I go buy the box though because I dont wanna waste 15 dollars on it if we end up not trading I am repped and have shown all pice neccessary showing I have my end of the trade i will give you a pic of the xbox and others in the box
wowmage4u (11:54:36 AM):after i get the box
wowmage4u (11:54:43 AM):but I do need all other info first
wowmage4u (11:54:48 AM):excluding ID that is
wowmage4u (11:56:20 AM):if that is a problem I will have to go to my next highest offer
sobesobesobe (12:01:49 PM):is the xbox damaged or scratched, any red rings or anything like that?
wowmage4u (12:02:00 PM):none whatsoever
sobesobesobe (12:02:07 PM):has it ever had red rings?
wowmage4u (12:02:12 PM):never
sobesobesobe (12:04:18 PM):alright
sobesobesobe (12:05:04 PM):so as soon as i give you the info you can go and get the box?
wowmage4u (12:05:13 PM):yes about 15 mins after
wowmage4u (12:05:16 PM):gotta take a shower
sobesobesobe (12:05:20 PM):okay
sobesobesobe (12:06:07 PM):what info do you need
sobesobesobe (12:06:16 PM):name, user/pass, SQ, what else
wowmage4u (12:06:27 PM):to the original account first
sobesobesobe (12:06:36 PM):then the battle.net?
wowmage4u (12:06:39 PM):yes
wowmage4u (12:06:43 PM):then i change email and pass
wowmage4u (12:06:48 PM):then i go get box
wowmage4u (12:06:50 PM):take a pic
wowmage4u (12:06:54 PM):then u send id
sobesobesobe (12:07:16 PM):alright
sobesobesobe (12:08:35 PM):
Name: xxx
Username: xxx
SA: xxx

Email: xxx
Password: xxx
SA: xxx
wowmage4u (6:21:28 PM):also the cd key would be nice
sobesobesobe (6:21:36 PM):yeah ill find it, BC is all i have
sobesobesobe (6:23:03 PM):i found BC and wrath, not 100% sure if the wrath key is to my account or my friend's
sobesobesobe (6:23:05 PM):but BC is mine for sure
sobesobesobe (6:23:11 PM):want both
sobesobesobe (6:26:09 PM):BC: xxx
sobesobesobe (6:26:55 PM):WOTLK: xxx
wowmage4u (6:27:28 PM):ok good
wowmage4u (6:27:31 PM):now ID
sobesobesobe (6:27:35 PM):not 100% sure if wrath is mine
sobesobesobe (6:27:36 PM):remember that
wowmage4u (6:27:39 PM):np
wowmage4u (6:27:42 PM):ill tell em bc
sobesobesobe (6:27:47 PM):[ID LINK]
sobesobesobe (6:28:01 PM):are we good now?
wowmage4u (6:28:55 PM):that we are
sobesobesobe (6:29:00 PM):nice
wowmage4u (6:29:38 PM):the stores open 2morro but i dont think they ship on sundays
sobesobesobe (6:29:53 PM):its only business days anyway im pretty sure
wowmage4u (6:29:56 PM):but monday it should be shipped
wowmage4u (6:30:10 PM):arriving thursday-friday latest
wowmage4u (12:42:05 PM):hey yeah I sent it since I already ordered the shipping I just handed it to him and he said thank you he didnt give me a receipt though
sobesobesobe (3:05:55 PM):did u send it today or yesterday
wowmage4u (6:15:33 PM):i shipped it out yesterday
wowmage4u (2:08:19 PM):I needed to send the id in because someone had access to it idk who but i didnt have any access
wowmage4u (2:08:24 PM):and they said this
wowmage4u (2:08:53 PM):- The primary form of identification included was not an acceptable type of identification.
wowmage4u (4:50:30 PM):i think it got hacked so i tried sending id and all
wowmage4u (4:50:35 PM):and they said its not a form
sobesobesobe (4:50:38 PM):you traded it lol
wowmage4u (4:50:39 PM):i put it under state id
sobesobesobe (4:50:44 PM):i saw the thread..
wowmage4u (4:50:50 PM):i didnt trade it i was going to
wowmage4u (4:51:05 PM):but i couldnt show the guy because of this
wowmage4u (4:51:29 PM):dont u have a drivers license?
sobesobesobe (4:51:35 PM):permit
wowmage4u (4:51:42 PM):ahh
wowmage4u (4:51:45 PM):would that work?
sobesobesobe (4:51:56 PM):yeah once i find it
sobesobesobe (4:51:57 PM):but dude
sobesobesobe (4:52:00 PM):safe accounts dont get hacked
wowmage4u (4:52:11 PM):i didnt say it was yur fault
sobesobesobe (4:52:12 PM):like what are the chances that i trade it to you and the next day it gets hacked...not likely at all
wowmage4u (4:52:16 PM):i dloaded a couple of addons
wowmage4u (4:52:18 PM):for him
wowmage4u (4:52:22 PM):probobly laced
wowmage4u (4:52:26 PM):with a keylogger
sobesobesobe (4:59:35 PM):dude
sobesobesobe (4:59:46 PM):if you are hiding anything from me tell me now before i find out, who did you trade the hunter to?
sobesobesobe (4:59:51 PM):i wont be mad, just tell me
wowmage4u (5:00:06 PM):ok this is the deal
sobesobesobe (5:00:09 PM):because its been transferred and re-gemmed
sobesobesobe (5:00:10 PM):hackers dont do that
wowmage4u (5:00:47 PM):I traded the hunter for this rs account found out he recovered and now they said instead of just getting it back i have to send in a form
wowmage4u (5:00:49 PM):which i did
wowmage4u (5:00:53 PM):but the id didnt work
wowmage4u (5:01:03 PM):thats the truth
wowmage4u (5:02:06 PM):and this holy pally wanted to trade me and i wanted it because he was gunna xfer me to my rl friends realm
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes
Have you traded with this person before?: No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?: One
 
Banned - Scammer--http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387939-scammer-wowmage4u.html
alot of proof you have here let me tell you lmao blizzard even said that wasn't the last name on the account so I couldn't recover it
 
What are you talking about? I have had the account for over 3 years, I'm pretty sure I know my own last name. And how come I never even got the package from UPS when it was supposed to arrive yesterday? You never even sent it, huh?
 
Banned - Scammer--http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387939-scammer-wowmage4u.html
I did send it and I have been online just not as much because it has been finals week I checked a bunch of time and sent it to the same address as you stated
 
Banned - Scammer--http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387939-scammer-wowmage4u.html
thats the thing when i took it in they dont ask you if you want a tracking number they just took it and said thanks
 
They ask if you want a receipt which has the tracking number. I just sent something in through UPS maybe three days ago.
 
Banned - Scammer--http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387939-scammer-wowmage4u.html
they actually don't maybe some do...but thats new york service for you if you don't ask don't tell he just took it and said ty
 
Banned - Scammer--http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387939-scammer-wowmage4u.html
not to mention he gave me a non working id blizzard doesn't accept school id's and he refuses to give me the id even though in my post it clearly states all info first including id
 
not to mention he gave me a non working id blizzard doesn't accept school id's and he refuses to give me the id even though in my post it clearly states all info first including id

I am refusing to give you an ID? I told you like twice that upon arrival of the Xbox you will receive a picture of my Birth Certificate. In fact we just went over this last night...
 
I gave you an ID which I had used to recover my account a few years back and it worked just fine, apparently they do not allow School IDs anymore. How was I supposed to know this?

Like I said I am just hoping the package arrives by Monday so I can give you the Birth Certificate and this whole thing can be resolved.
 
Since this transaction is already in progress, wowmage4u, please call UPS and have a tracking number ready for Yamz. It is obvious that Yamz has not only given you account information, but is also offering you two valid forms of identification.

Section C.) Registered Account User’s Identification

Registered Account user’s government-issued photo ID type (circle only one):

Driver License State ID Passport Military Government Employee

- OR - Registered Account user’s other ID type (circle only one, complete section D):

School-issued photo ID Certificate of Birth/Adoption

*Quoted from the Notarized Recovery Form.
 
I gave him a School-issued photo ID which Blizzard does not accept anymore (they used to), so that was my bad. I do however have a high quality scan of my Birth Certificate which I will send to him upon arrival of the package.

Hopefully it arrives Monday, I am giving it until Tuesday at the latest. Once I have the Xbox and he has the Birth Certificate, we will both have what we want and this whole thing will be resolved. I will be updating the thread on Monday and/or Tuesday.
 
actually call the ups number not the store
U.S. Customer Service

Package Services
For Domestic Services below 150 lbs.:
1-800-PICK-UPS (742-5877)

i called n it went through earlier but now it says they r close hmm weird
 
I gotta say, this isn't looking good for you. How do you ship-out something and keep absolutely no form of proof? What happens if UPS lost it? You wouldn't even be able to open a claim or inquire what happened.
 
Yeah I realize that. I told him a few times to make sure to get a tracking number and he said that he forgot about it. **** happens though, so I believe him. Tomorrow (Tuesday) will be the 5th business day since he shipped it, so that is when it is supposed to come.

I have full control of the account right now, but as soon as the package arrives (which it hopefully does), he will receive the info and a copy of the Birth Certificate like I said before.
 
Be prepared if it doesn't show up at your doorstep since there is a high likelihood that the reason no tracking number has surfaced is because there is nothing to track. Wowmage4u, I live in the New York area, and I know the type of service that you are speaking of - but, especially coming from another New Yorker, you should be savvy enough to get what you need to not get screwed. In this case, since you can't prove you ever sent it, you could easily be taken advantage of by UPS or your trader.
 
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