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salutations

Level 54

Trade Guardian Orders: 14

(100%) (14 reviews)
Country
Canada
Member Since
Mar 29, 2011
Country
Canada
Multiple Accounts
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Information
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Date that sale/trade took place: august 30th 2011
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of other party: mrcannibus0420
Your Instant Messenger ID: yoxboxlive
MMOBay Account of other party: mrcannibus0420
Other information:

Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? traded my 361 priest+ alts for his 361 hunter+ alts
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...-vanity-pvp-sets=85-warlock-paladin-alts.html
Approximate value of property: $200.00 USD

Was a middleman used?:nope
If yes, who?
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong: First of all we traded. I told the guy i wanted his ID scan because he had no rep. So he said i can give you the ID tomorrow at 4:00 sharp. So we traded. Next day 4:00 not online... 5:00 not online... 6,7,8,9 not online... at 10 i finally hunt him down in game and tell him to go on aim.. All i get is the response OK sending id now i have to go offline because i have work early tomorrow *offline* hour later no id... 12 hours later no ID. So i just recalled my account and left this guy neg feedback. I don't have time for this hiding bullcrap, and clearly he's not a smart scammer by trying to keep an account without an ID. He also left me with 3 days of gametime left on the account which means me putting gametime on the account->recall. I don't have time for this bull**** where he dicks around with my account for a couple days while i play his.
Other details / notes: And when he says "tried to sell mine" look at the date it was posted, and then look at the date i recalled. I recalled on sept 2nd. And its awfully wierd, he doesen't use his own aim, but uses his own MMObay account....

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dan jennings 11:34 am
hey man i like your account on mmobay...im not repped, just joined last month and have never traded, but i have 367 pve/ and pvp hunter and 360 frost dk and 360 prot pally, all mhave maxed profs and pally has many titles and mounts, if u wanna try to work something out lemme know

SALUTATIONS 11:35 am
are you oo

dan jennings 11:35 am
aye

SALUTATIONS 11:35 am
ID scan?

dan jennings 11:37 am
i could but im paranoid of id theft and what not so i wouldnt require one from u, but if that is what it takes ill do it

SALUTATIONS 11:37 am
well there isnt much i can do with an id
expecially if its just a picture

SALUTATIONS 11:42 am
can i see armorys

dan jennings 11:43 am
getting them now
Level 85 Goblin Hunter | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory hunter pvp
Level 85 Goblin Hunter | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory

dan jennings 11:44 am
Level 85 Undead Death Knight | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory
Level 85 Blood Elf Paladin | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory

SALUTATIONS 11:45 am
did you make this account?
or did you trade/buy it

dan jennings 11:46 am
i made it, i am OO and have all info

SALUTATIONS 11:46 am
why are you willing to take a downgrade
from 367 to 363

dan jennings 11:47 am
its class related...i dont have a lot pf time to play and am sick of my toons
u will see there are many alts on the acct ive been playing

SALUTATIONS 11:47 am
i see you like warlocks

dan jennings 11:47 am
for sure

SALUTATIONS 11:47 am
the lock on my account has super simian sphere

dan jennings 11:47 am
lol nice

SALUTATIONS 11:47 am
do you want to see offical armories of mine

dan jennings 11:48 am
sure

SALUTATIONS 11:48 am
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character**************
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character****************
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character*************

SALUTATIONS 11:49 am
Level 85 Tauren Shaman | WoW World of Warcraft Armory Profiles | Masked Armory what about this toon
did you sell/trade it

dan jennings 11:51 am
lol that was my buddies, he traded that and his mage on my mmobay account

SALUTATIONS 11:51 am
my account is also signed up for recruit a friend
so you can level something if you want
it has a 70 warrior
has this account ever been traded to someone else

dan jennings 11:53 am
nope ive had it from the start

SALUTATIONS 11:55 am
what server are the toons on?

dan jennings 11:55 am
shadowmoon

SALUTATIONS 11:55 am
holy crap
that server is outnumbered 19:1 in favor of alliance

dan jennings 11:56 am
lol..never knew that

SALUTATIONS 11:56 am
and at the beginning you said you have never traded but you traded your buddies account

dan jennings 11:56 am
i didnt trade it
he did i just let him log in

SALUTATIONS 11:57 am
dont do that


dan jennings 11:57 am
same comp, we live together

SALUTATIONS 11:57 am
ohh

SALUTATIONS 11:58 am
now what if we trade and you change your mind a month in and you want yours back

dan jennings 12:00 pm
could say the same thing to you, but i wont...im not like some of these kids on here who try to scam ppl and chain trade and what not, im a 28 year old man who plays wow to kill time, its not that important that im gonna ruin someone elses good time cuz im a *****, i trade my account i trade it its not mine anymore i wont want it back

SALUTATIONS 12:00 pm
hmm
fair enough
and anyways there is no point in recalling
if you recall we will both end up with nothing

dan jennings 12:01 pm
for sure

SALUTATIONS 12:01 pm
aka both accounts will be banned by mike
ill give you a shot...

dan jennings 12:02 pm
so, how u wanna do it

SALUTATIONS 12:02 pm
well you should go first cause you have no rep

dan jennings 12:04 pm
thats fine i just mean, what info we give and in what order, i would think prolly email/pw so we can change those then log in and if all is good secret Q and A

SALUTATIONS 12:04 pm
could you get me an id scan or no
i have a file with cd key picture, previous credit cards/billing staements
which is equivalent to an id

SALUTATIONS 12:04 pm
accounts the toons were transfered too
the names the toons are under

dan jennings 12:06 pm
i can but not today so wed have to wait till tomorrow, but if u just wanna not give me that..im a trusting person and like u said if one of us tries anything we r both screwed, but if u want one we can do this tomorrow or something

SALUTATIONS 12:06 pm
we can trade today then give the stuff tommorow

SALUTATIONS 12:07 pm
this account is cata collectors edition too
so if you put SC2 on it you get the rare pictures

dan jennings 12:09 pm
ok, prolly never will but good to know lol

SALUTATIONS 12:10 pm
whats the PW/email

dan jennings 12:10 pm
*******
******

SALUTATIONS 12:10 pm
lol

dan jennings 12:10 pm
:)

SALUTATIONS 12:11 pm
mine is ******
*******

SALUTATIONS 12:12 pm
SQA?

dan jennings 12:12 pm
******...********

SALUTATIONS 12:13 pm
mine is
let me get the file

dan jennings 12:14 pm
it says *******

SALUTATIONS 12:14 pm
**********

dan jennings 12:16 pm
if all looks good ill be on tomorrow after 4 to exchange the rest of the info

SALUTATIONS 12:16 pm
ok
enjoy it

dan jennings 12:16 pm
u too

SALUTATIONS 12:17 pm
it has alot of old stuff in the bank
same with the warlock
for the transmogrification
if you like the T10 set its in there

dan jennings 12:17 pm
nice

SALUTATIONS 12:17 pm
the green version

dan jennings 12:17 pm
well i will talk to you tomorrow

SALUTATIONS 12:17 pm
k
ill leave you rep

dan jennings 12:18 pm
same with u

SALUTATIONS 12:19 pm
lol alot of alts

dan jennings 12:19 pm
lol

dan jennings (mrcannibus0420) is available 12:33 pm
account still up for trade leave offers 16h and 7m ago Comment
dan jennings 12:33 pm
yo whats ur last name..it booted me off and said i need to change pw again but i need your lastname

SALUTATIONS 12:35 pm
OH
caps
let me get the file
should be ******first name

dan jennings 12:36 pm
ya

SALUTATIONS 12:36 pm
********
i left you rep

dan jennings 12:36 pm
ill leave u rep too

dan jennings 12:38 pm
thanks for that
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade? Yes / No (optional) Yes
Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional) No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBay? (optional) 10+

---------- Post added 09-05-2011 at 10:20 PM ----------

And in the neg feedback he left me "he made me believe he was the OO" at no point did i ever say i was the OO, and at no point did i refuse or did you mention me giving you an id. its not like i put a gun to your head and said " i am the OO"
 
mrcannibus0420 has been notified.

Aug 30th - mrcannibus0420 traded hunter to SALUTATIONS for priest
Aug 31st - SALUTATIONS posts hunter for sale
Sept 2nd - priest recalled, then hunter recalled

I see SALUTATIONS never stated he was the OO nor did mrcannibus0420 ever ask. However you did say:

i have a file with cd key picture, previous credit cards/billing staements
which is equivalent to an id

However the dispute is not about whether or not you are the OO, its about recalling the account.

The 2nd screenshot you posted shows that at 11:25 PM, Sept 2nd, the mrcannibus0420 said he's sending you the ID. What time did you recall?
 
i recalled the next day at 4:00 PM after seeing he never sent the ID.

---------- Post added 09-06-2011 at 03:56 PM ----------

EDIT: it says it is sept 2nd on the chat when it is actually sept 1st, my phone is one day ahead.

---------- Post added 09-06-2011 at 03:58 PM ----------

It says 9-02-11 because mrcannibus went offline at that time (past 12:00 PM, it was actually around 12:15)
 
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