<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #33FF33">Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> October 28 2008
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> AIM
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> mdjoseph24 (AIM)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Your Instant Messenger ID:</span> starseer2008
<span style="font-weight: bold">Markee Dragon Account of Scammer:</span> bwoyl
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other information: </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span> Warcraft account, 3 x 70's
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...e_D#Post2001932
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> $700.00 USD)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?: </span> No (Had no idea how to find one, new to the forums...)
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?: </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed: </span> User paid in two payments of 350.00. I gave them password, username, and e-mail change. Withheld CD key (as I do not have SQ&A) however. This morning I received two e-mails from PayPal that they were holding the payments due to fraud.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other details / notes:</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Proof</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Chat Logs:</span>
--AIM LOG--
starseer2008 (9:56:16 PM): Hi, you put up a post on my board about my ally account. I'm following up.
mdjoseph24 (9:58:17 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (9:58:20 PM): still selling your account?
mdjoseph24 (9:58:24 PM): im interested
mdjoseph24 (9:58:35 PM): may i have thread link
starseer2008 (9:59:05 PM): Yes, still selling.
mdjoseph24 (9:59:14 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (9:59:15 PM): thread link
starseer2008 (9:59:25 PM): On which one, or all three?
mdjoseph24 (9:59:36 PM): thread
mdjoseph24 (9:59:38 PM): you selling account
mdjoseph24 (9:59:53 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (10:00:36 PM): you there?
starseer2008 (10:01:04 PM): Yes sorry, have more than one conversation going atm.
starseer2008 (10:01:22 PM): http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2001932#Post2001932 is the thread you posted on.
mdjoseph24 (10:01:58 PM): okay
mdjoseph24 (10:03:53 PM): price you looking for?
starseer2008 (10:04:39 PM): I have a second buyer interested for 450; would you be able or willing to beat that?
mdjoseph24 (10:05:00 PM): 500 offer
starseer2008 (10:07:16 PM): Okay I wasn't expecting this. You two seem to be in a bid war for the account, he is now offering 550. I don't want to jack you two around, so let me just ask what your top offer for it would be.
mdjoseph24 (10:07:41 PM): 700 can i buy it out
starseer2008 (10:11:44 PM): I'm sorry, the other guy seems to be having internet issues. I'm trying to see what his top offer is. (I'll be honest, I'm really leaning toward you at the moment.)
mdjoseph24 (10:11:58 PM): kk
starseer2008 (10:14:47 PM): While I'm waiting, some of the more serious stuff.
starseer2008 (10:14:49 PM): Since neither of us has a trade rating on the markeedragon forums, can you tell me what your paypal account looks like? Example I'll give is mine; it is 7 years old, premier seller, 11 verified buyers. It just gives us each an idea of the validity of the other. =)
mdjoseph24 (10:15:07 PM): i have verified link
mdjoseph24 (10:15:33 PM): verified for a few years
starseer2008 (10:18:59 PM): Alright, can I have that verified link? I'm going to accept your offer.
mdjoseph24 (10:19:15 PM): [email protected]
mdjoseph24 (10:19:16 PM): paypal email
mdjoseph24 (10:19:20 PM): i dunno how to get links
mdjoseph24 (10:20:38 PM): https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/[email protected]
mdjoseph24 (10:20:40 PM): verified link
starseer2008 (10:21:08 PM): Do you want to see the characters before you make the purchase, any questions, anything?
mdjoseph24 (10:21:21 PM): i want
mdjoseph24 (10:21:29 PM): but i have a patch to download lol
mdjoseph24 (10:21:41 PM): i can pay now
starseer2008 (10:21:55 PM): Holy cow, do you have MSN or anything? The other guy will not leave me alone.
mdjoseph24 (10:22:04 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:22:06 PM): i have msn
mdjoseph24 (10:22:19 PM): your msn address?
mdjoseph24 (10:22:22 PM): i will add you
starseer2008 (10:22:53 PM): And I have to ask, because I have already had a couple questions from the other guy about information that was in the post, you are aware I don't have the secret question answer, but I do have the BC key and have never had any issues with the account, right?
mdjoseph24 (10:23:17 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:24:33 PM): whats your paypal email
mdjoseph24 (10:24:35 PM): i know this
starseer2008 (10:24:57 PM): One moment, trying to get back into my msn account.
starseer2008 (10:25:55 PM): It's been awhile, and I am feeling a little stalked at the moment by this other person.
mdjoseph24 (10:26:21 PM): lol
mdjoseph24 (10:26:26 PM): block him?
mdjoseph24 (10:26:37 PM): if you have msn address
mdjoseph24 (10:26:40 PM): i can add you
starseer2008 (10:27:15 PM): I haven't logged into the msn address in a long time, I'm trying to remember the pw on it.
mdjoseph24 (10:27:28 PM): we can just talk here
mdjoseph24 (10:27:31 PM): whats your paypal?
starseer2008 (10:28:28 PM): I'm going to go invisible, I'll still be here though. One moment on that, had logged out of it.
mdjoseph24 (10:28:36 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:28:52 PM): so
starseer2008 (10:29:13 PM): How did you get to that link? I know how to look at my own info, but not how to get a link to give to others.
mdjoseph24 (10:29:32 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:29:35 PM): click verified
mdjoseph24 (10:29:40 PM): then you can get it i think
mdjoseph24 (10:29:43 PM): but its okay
mdjoseph24 (10:29:45 PM): when i pay money
mdjoseph24 (10:29:47 PM): i know you are verified or not
mdjoseph24 (10:29:50 PM): whats your paypal email?
starseer2008 (10:30:04 PM): ***********************.com
mdjoseph24 (10:30:42 PM): ***********************.com 700
mdjoseph24 (10:30:50 PM): money then account?
starseer2008 (10:30:58 PM): Found it, btw.
starseer2008 (10:31:00 PM): https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/pal=***********************.com
mdjoseph24 (10:31:15 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:31:32 PM): Is there any way I could have 20 minutes to move things off of a different server?
mdjoseph24 (10:31:42 PM): umm?
mdjoseph24 (10:31:42 PM): why
starseer2008 (10:31:45 PM): We rerolled horde, so we were using a baby ally over there to buy pets.
starseer2008 (10:31:59 PM): We just hadn't finished switching the pets over through the AH.
mdjoseph24 (10:32:09 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:32:10 PM): i can wait
starseer2008 (10:32:27 PM): You don't have to send the money until we're done with the pets. It's a silly thing, I know, but do you know how much gold it saves?
mdjoseph24 (10:32:46 PM): not quite clear
mdjoseph24 (10:33:02 PM): you have a pet
mdjoseph24 (10:33:06 PM): you want to move?
starseer2008 (10:33:27 PM): lol kind of. We bought some of the ally pets (the moths, cats, etc) and we want to move them to the horde side.
starseer2008 (10:33:36 PM): This is on a different server than the three 70's.
mdjoseph24 (10:33:40 PM): how long it takes?
mdjoseph24 (10:33:55 PM): you can do it now
mdjoseph24 (10:34:07 PM): if you not xfer it i can pay 750
starseer2008 (10:34:09 PM): Maybe 20 minutes, I'm waiting on the boat to get to BB.
mdjoseph24 (10:34:28 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:35:09 PM): 700 is good, it's just a lot of gold to have to buy the pets off the neutral AH. And worse if you try to buy it on horde. If you haven't played since the big patch, achievements have driven the prices up on everything.
mdjoseph24 (10:35:26 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:35:30 PM): let me know when you ready for payment
starseer2008 (10:35:36 PM): Will do!
starseer2008 (10:36:50 PM): Do you at least want the armory links so you can check out their gear?
mdjoseph24 (10:37:04 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:37:08 PM): i will check armory
mdjoseph24 (10:37:12 PM): when you move pets
mdjoseph24 (10:37:13 PM): lol
starseer2008 (10:37:22 PM): http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37218 <-- Druid
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37220 <-- Pally
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37221 <-- Mage
mdjoseph24 (10:37:29 PM): thanks
starseer2008 (10:37:47 PM): np, don't know why you didn't ask for them already.
mdjoseph24 (10:39:50 PM): doing it now?
mdjoseph24 (10:40:00 PM): let me know when you ready
starseer2008 (10:40:21 PM): Yep, transferring pets now, hoping no one comes and kills the lowbie ally we're using.
mdjoseph24 (10:40:35 PM): kk
starseer2008 (10:48:05 PM): Are you paying out of a bank account or off of a credit card? I know some sellers have had problems with people doing charge backs.
mdjoseph24 (10:48:16 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:48:20 PM): any difference?
mdjoseph24 (10:48:23 PM): bank i think
starseer2008 (10:48:43 PM): Credit cards are where sellers have had issues with charge backs.
mdjoseph24 (10:49:09 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:50:30 PM): Do you have any questions about the account or anything before paying?
mdjoseph24 (10:50:39 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:50:41 PM): which one has epic flyer
starseer2008 (10:54:01 PM): They all have epic riding and regular flying as stated in the post. And there's about 500g on the account overall.
mdjoseph24 (10:54:19 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:54:22 PM): you ready now?
starseer2008 (10:55:05 PM): Very nearly, just sending something to a friend that belongs to them.
starseer2008 (10:56:43 PM): Do you have the patch DLed after all this time? lol I do feel bad that you're not getting to see them in game beforehand.
mdjoseph24 (10:57:02 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:57:04 PM): i can get in game now
mdjoseph24 (10:58:26 PM): you there
starseer2008 (10:58:41 PM): Yep. Do you want to make a level one and see one/all of them?
mdjoseph24 (10:58:53 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:59:05 PM): but prob is i dont have a wow account currently active
mdjoseph24 (10:59:12 PM): i will check character
mdjoseph24 (10:59:18 PM): after payment sent
mdjoseph24 (10:59:24 PM): tell me when you ready
starseer2008 (11:01:04 PM): Alright, that's fine. I'm going to send you an invoice and then you can pay off the invoice. We're trying to make sure neither side gets screwed here, that seems the safest way for us to be sure on our end.
mdjoseph24 (11:01:19 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:01:22 PM): whats your paypal email
mdjoseph24 (11:01:37 PM): can i pay to your email?
mdjoseph24 (11:01:44 PM): any difference?
starseer2008 (11:01:54 PM): I'm sending you the invoice, it will be from **********************.com .
mdjoseph24 (11:02:00 PM): let me know when invoice sent
starseer2008 (11:04:01 PM): If you just pay to the email I'd like to hold the CD key until the chargeback period has passed. Otherwise I'm working on the invoice right now.
mdjoseph24 (11:04:16 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:04:27 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (11:04:30 PM): paying now
mdjoseph24 (11:04:48 PM): ***********************.com 700 USD
starseer2008 (11:06:49 PM): It's not showing up in the account...waiting a moment to see if paypal has some sort of delay going on.
mdjoseph24 (11:06:58 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:08:05 PM): sent
starseer2008 (11:08:56 PM): Can you forward the email where it says it's been sent? It's not showing up in the account, nor is there an email from paypal saying to confirm payment transfer.
mdjoseph24 (11:09:23 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:09:24 PM): refresh?
starseer2008 (11:09:30 PM): It's there now, but only 350...
mdjoseph24 (11:09:32 PM): sent already
mdjoseph24 (11:09:40 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:09:43 PM): sent two
mdjoseph24 (11:09:58 PM): got all?
starseer2008 (11:09:59 PM): Oh wait, they're both there now.
starseer2008 (11:10:19 PM): Hold on one second, changing it to a temporary pw for you and then it will be yours.
mdjoseph24 (11:10:30 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:12:10 PM): When you change the email on the account, just let us know and we'll confirm it, btw.
mdjoseph24 (11:12:17 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:12:18 PM): login pass?
starseer2008 (11:12:45 PM): USERNAME: *********
PASSWORD: **********
starseer2008 (11:13:09 PM):
It has game time until the 18th, you'll need to put new game card info or whatnot in by then.
mdjoseph24 (11:13:26 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:13:30 PM): sec
mdjoseph24 (11:13:35 PM): requesting email change
mdjoseph24 (11:13:41 PM): can you confirm in your old wow email?
starseer2008 (11:13:58 PM): You need to know the old one to do the new one?
mdjoseph24 (11:14:15 PM): no
mdjoseph24 (11:14:16 PM): dont need to
mdjoseph24 (11:14:25 PM): you can get email from blizz in your old wow email
mdjoseph24 (11:14:30 PM): there is confirmation link
mdjoseph24 (11:14:38 PM): you need to confirm that link if i request email change
starseer2008 (11:14:50 PM): Yep, waiting to do so.
mdjoseph24 (11:15:24 PM): tea
mdjoseph24 (11:15:24 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (11:15:26 PM): request sent
starseer2008 (11:15:42 PM): Forwarding the email. You have to log in to confirm, don't want to mess it up if you've already changed the pw.
mdjoseph24 (11:15:53 PM): no
mdjoseph24 (11:15:53 PM): not change pass yet
mdjoseph24 (11:15:59 PM): you can get in now
starseer2008 (11:16:21 PM): Alright, logging in to confirm then.
mdjoseph24 (11:16:36 PM): l
mdjoseph24 (11:16:36 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:16:43 PM): let me know when email change confirmed
starseer2008 (11:17:09 PM): Okay, there should be a confirmation email sent to your email.
mdjoseph24 cancelled the Direct IM invitation.
mdjoseph24 (11:17:30 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:17:35 PM): update successful?
starseer2008 (11:17:50 PM): Update Successful!
our contact information has been successfully updated. If you wish to make changes to any other information, you may do so by returning to Account Management and making further selections there.
mdjoseph24 (11:19:29 PM): original owner name?
mdjoseph24 (11:19:38 PM): how many gold on account now?
starseer2008 (11:20:05 PM): The one on the account is ********** There's about 500g on the account.
mdjoseph24 (11:20:23 PM): okay
mdjoseph24 (11:20:27 PM): cd key?
starseer2008 (11:20:31 PM): I do have an email out to them, trying to get the answer to the secret question, but I haven't recieved a response in about a week.
mdjoseph24 (11:20:38 PM): if you know secret question can you remember answer?
starseer2008 (11:21:10 PM): starseer2008 (11:04:01 PM): If you just pay to the email I'd like to hold the CD key until the chargeback period has passed. Otherwise I'm working on the invoice right now.
mdjoseph24 (11:04:16 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:04:27 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (11:04:30 PM): paying now
mdjoseph24 (11:22:00 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:22:01 PM): You didn't want to wait for the invoice to be sent. I would like to wait to ensure that there is no chargeback on the account.
mdjoseph24 (11:22:22 PM): if you know question can you remember what answe is?
starseer2008 (11:23:14 PM): What we can do is FedEx you the box with the CDs in it. That way we will have proof that an exchange took place via tracking number and a signature.
mdjoseph24 (11:23:38 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:24:01 PM): I don't have the secret question, but if I can get in touch with the original owner I will send it to you. If he remembers it.
starseer2008 (11:24:44 PM): If you have any questions on the account at any point you can email. We're not scammers, we just don't play ally anymore and need the money more than an account that sits and does nothing but let us collect ally pets.
mdjoseph24 (11:24:45 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:24:49 PM): all done now thanks
starseer2008 (11:27:31 PM): Thank you, too! And if you have any problems with it please let us know, it's nice to know those guys are actually going to get some time spent on them again.
mdjoseph24 (11:27:50 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (11:27:52 PM): thanks
starseer2008 (11:28:45 PM): Are you home during the day? I'll need a signature for the FedEx package, so you or someone else will need to be able to sign for it.
mdjoseph24 (11:29:07 PM): kk
starseer2008 (11:38:17 PM): Alright, well I'm logging off of here, I actually hate AIM and prefer not to use it. Like I said, if you have any questions or issues be sure to email. And if you don't immediately character transfer I do apologize for any strange whispers you get, people might recognize the names and try jumping us for not logging on for so long.
mdjoseph24 (11:39:41 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (11:39:43 PM): later
<span style="font-weight: bold">Pictures/Screenshots: </span>
I can add later; need to open new photobucket acc't.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other proof: </span>
<span style="color: #66FFFF"><span style="font-weight: bold">Additional Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Not enough apparently; I just checked that his paypal was verified.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span> No.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on Markee Dragon?:</span> This was the first one. =|
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> October 28 2008
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> AIM
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> mdjoseph24 (AIM)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Your Instant Messenger ID:</span> starseer2008
<span style="font-weight: bold">Markee Dragon Account of Scammer:</span> bwoyl
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other information: </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span> Warcraft account, 3 x 70's
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...e_D#Post2001932
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> $700.00 USD)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?: </span> No (Had no idea how to find one, new to the forums...)
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?: </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed: </span> User paid in two payments of 350.00. I gave them password, username, and e-mail change. Withheld CD key (as I do not have SQ&A) however. This morning I received two e-mails from PayPal that they were holding the payments due to fraud.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other details / notes:</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Proof</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Chat Logs:</span>
--AIM LOG--
starseer2008 (9:56:16 PM): Hi, you put up a post on my board about my ally account. I'm following up.
mdjoseph24 (9:58:17 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (9:58:20 PM): still selling your account?
mdjoseph24 (9:58:24 PM): im interested
mdjoseph24 (9:58:35 PM): may i have thread link
starseer2008 (9:59:05 PM): Yes, still selling.
mdjoseph24 (9:59:14 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (9:59:15 PM): thread link
starseer2008 (9:59:25 PM): On which one, or all three?
mdjoseph24 (9:59:36 PM): thread
mdjoseph24 (9:59:38 PM): you selling account
mdjoseph24 (9:59:53 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (10:00:36 PM): you there?
starseer2008 (10:01:04 PM): Yes sorry, have more than one conversation going atm.
starseer2008 (10:01:22 PM): http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2001932#Post2001932 is the thread you posted on.
mdjoseph24 (10:01:58 PM): okay
mdjoseph24 (10:03:53 PM): price you looking for?
starseer2008 (10:04:39 PM): I have a second buyer interested for 450; would you be able or willing to beat that?
mdjoseph24 (10:05:00 PM): 500 offer
starseer2008 (10:07:16 PM): Okay I wasn't expecting this. You two seem to be in a bid war for the account, he is now offering 550. I don't want to jack you two around, so let me just ask what your top offer for it would be.
mdjoseph24 (10:07:41 PM): 700 can i buy it out
starseer2008 (10:11:44 PM): I'm sorry, the other guy seems to be having internet issues. I'm trying to see what his top offer is. (I'll be honest, I'm really leaning toward you at the moment.)
mdjoseph24 (10:11:58 PM): kk
starseer2008 (10:14:47 PM): While I'm waiting, some of the more serious stuff.
starseer2008 (10:14:49 PM): Since neither of us has a trade rating on the markeedragon forums, can you tell me what your paypal account looks like? Example I'll give is mine; it is 7 years old, premier seller, 11 verified buyers. It just gives us each an idea of the validity of the other. =)
mdjoseph24 (10:15:07 PM): i have verified link
mdjoseph24 (10:15:33 PM): verified for a few years
starseer2008 (10:18:59 PM): Alright, can I have that verified link? I'm going to accept your offer.
mdjoseph24 (10:19:15 PM): [email protected]
mdjoseph24 (10:19:16 PM): paypal email
mdjoseph24 (10:19:20 PM): i dunno how to get links
mdjoseph24 (10:20:38 PM): https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/[email protected]
mdjoseph24 (10:20:40 PM): verified link
starseer2008 (10:21:08 PM): Do you want to see the characters before you make the purchase, any questions, anything?
mdjoseph24 (10:21:21 PM): i want
mdjoseph24 (10:21:29 PM): but i have a patch to download lol
mdjoseph24 (10:21:41 PM): i can pay now
starseer2008 (10:21:55 PM): Holy cow, do you have MSN or anything? The other guy will not leave me alone.
mdjoseph24 (10:22:04 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:22:06 PM): i have msn
mdjoseph24 (10:22:19 PM): your msn address?
mdjoseph24 (10:22:22 PM): i will add you
starseer2008 (10:22:53 PM): And I have to ask, because I have already had a couple questions from the other guy about information that was in the post, you are aware I don't have the secret question answer, but I do have the BC key and have never had any issues with the account, right?
mdjoseph24 (10:23:17 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:24:33 PM): whats your paypal email
mdjoseph24 (10:24:35 PM): i know this
starseer2008 (10:24:57 PM): One moment, trying to get back into my msn account.
starseer2008 (10:25:55 PM): It's been awhile, and I am feeling a little stalked at the moment by this other person.
mdjoseph24 (10:26:21 PM): lol
mdjoseph24 (10:26:26 PM): block him?
mdjoseph24 (10:26:37 PM): if you have msn address
mdjoseph24 (10:26:40 PM): i can add you
starseer2008 (10:27:15 PM): I haven't logged into the msn address in a long time, I'm trying to remember the pw on it.
mdjoseph24 (10:27:28 PM): we can just talk here
mdjoseph24 (10:27:31 PM): whats your paypal?
starseer2008 (10:28:28 PM): I'm going to go invisible, I'll still be here though. One moment on that, had logged out of it.
mdjoseph24 (10:28:36 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:28:52 PM): so
starseer2008 (10:29:13 PM): How did you get to that link? I know how to look at my own info, but not how to get a link to give to others.
mdjoseph24 (10:29:32 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:29:35 PM): click verified
mdjoseph24 (10:29:40 PM): then you can get it i think
mdjoseph24 (10:29:43 PM): but its okay
mdjoseph24 (10:29:45 PM): when i pay money
mdjoseph24 (10:29:47 PM): i know you are verified or not
mdjoseph24 (10:29:50 PM): whats your paypal email?
starseer2008 (10:30:04 PM): ***********************.com
mdjoseph24 (10:30:42 PM): ***********************.com 700
mdjoseph24 (10:30:50 PM): money then account?
starseer2008 (10:30:58 PM): Found it, btw.
starseer2008 (10:31:00 PM): https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/pal=***********************.com
mdjoseph24 (10:31:15 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:31:32 PM): Is there any way I could have 20 minutes to move things off of a different server?
mdjoseph24 (10:31:42 PM): umm?
mdjoseph24 (10:31:42 PM): why
starseer2008 (10:31:45 PM): We rerolled horde, so we were using a baby ally over there to buy pets.
starseer2008 (10:31:59 PM): We just hadn't finished switching the pets over through the AH.
mdjoseph24 (10:32:09 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:32:10 PM): i can wait
starseer2008 (10:32:27 PM): You don't have to send the money until we're done with the pets. It's a silly thing, I know, but do you know how much gold it saves?
mdjoseph24 (10:32:46 PM): not quite clear
mdjoseph24 (10:33:02 PM): you have a pet
mdjoseph24 (10:33:06 PM): you want to move?
starseer2008 (10:33:27 PM): lol kind of. We bought some of the ally pets (the moths, cats, etc) and we want to move them to the horde side.
starseer2008 (10:33:36 PM): This is on a different server than the three 70's.
mdjoseph24 (10:33:40 PM): how long it takes?
mdjoseph24 (10:33:55 PM): you can do it now
mdjoseph24 (10:34:07 PM): if you not xfer it i can pay 750
starseer2008 (10:34:09 PM): Maybe 20 minutes, I'm waiting on the boat to get to BB.
mdjoseph24 (10:34:28 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:35:09 PM): 700 is good, it's just a lot of gold to have to buy the pets off the neutral AH. And worse if you try to buy it on horde. If you haven't played since the big patch, achievements have driven the prices up on everything.
mdjoseph24 (10:35:26 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:35:30 PM): let me know when you ready for payment
starseer2008 (10:35:36 PM): Will do!
starseer2008 (10:36:50 PM): Do you at least want the armory links so you can check out their gear?
mdjoseph24 (10:37:04 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:37:08 PM): i will check armory
mdjoseph24 (10:37:12 PM): when you move pets
mdjoseph24 (10:37:13 PM): lol
starseer2008 (10:37:22 PM): http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37218 <-- Druid
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37220 <-- Pally
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=37221 <-- Mage
mdjoseph24 (10:37:29 PM): thanks
starseer2008 (10:37:47 PM): np, don't know why you didn't ask for them already.
mdjoseph24 (10:39:50 PM): doing it now?
mdjoseph24 (10:40:00 PM): let me know when you ready
starseer2008 (10:40:21 PM): Yep, transferring pets now, hoping no one comes and kills the lowbie ally we're using.
mdjoseph24 (10:40:35 PM): kk
starseer2008 (10:48:05 PM): Are you paying out of a bank account or off of a credit card? I know some sellers have had problems with people doing charge backs.
mdjoseph24 (10:48:16 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:48:20 PM): any difference?
mdjoseph24 (10:48:23 PM): bank i think
starseer2008 (10:48:43 PM): Credit cards are where sellers have had issues with charge backs.
mdjoseph24 (10:49:09 PM): k
starseer2008 (10:50:30 PM): Do you have any questions about the account or anything before paying?
mdjoseph24 (10:50:39 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:50:41 PM): which one has epic flyer
starseer2008 (10:54:01 PM): They all have epic riding and regular flying as stated in the post. And there's about 500g on the account overall.
mdjoseph24 (10:54:19 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (10:54:22 PM): you ready now?
starseer2008 (10:55:05 PM): Very nearly, just sending something to a friend that belongs to them.
starseer2008 (10:56:43 PM): Do you have the patch DLed after all this time? lol I do feel bad that you're not getting to see them in game beforehand.
mdjoseph24 (10:57:02 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (10:57:04 PM): i can get in game now
mdjoseph24 (10:58:26 PM): you there
starseer2008 (10:58:41 PM): Yep. Do you want to make a level one and see one/all of them?
mdjoseph24 (10:58:53 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (10:59:05 PM): but prob is i dont have a wow account currently active
mdjoseph24 (10:59:12 PM): i will check character
mdjoseph24 (10:59:18 PM): after payment sent
mdjoseph24 (10:59:24 PM): tell me when you ready
starseer2008 (11:01:04 PM): Alright, that's fine. I'm going to send you an invoice and then you can pay off the invoice. We're trying to make sure neither side gets screwed here, that seems the safest way for us to be sure on our end.
mdjoseph24 (11:01:19 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:01:22 PM): whats your paypal email
mdjoseph24 (11:01:37 PM): can i pay to your email?
mdjoseph24 (11:01:44 PM): any difference?
starseer2008 (11:01:54 PM): I'm sending you the invoice, it will be from **********************.com .
mdjoseph24 (11:02:00 PM): let me know when invoice sent
starseer2008 (11:04:01 PM): If you just pay to the email I'd like to hold the CD key until the chargeback period has passed. Otherwise I'm working on the invoice right now.
mdjoseph24 (11:04:16 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:04:27 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (11:04:30 PM): paying now
mdjoseph24 (11:04:48 PM): ***********************.com 700 USD
starseer2008 (11:06:49 PM): It's not showing up in the account...waiting a moment to see if paypal has some sort of delay going on.
mdjoseph24 (11:06:58 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:08:05 PM): sent
starseer2008 (11:08:56 PM): Can you forward the email where it says it's been sent? It's not showing up in the account, nor is there an email from paypal saying to confirm payment transfer.
mdjoseph24 (11:09:23 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:09:24 PM): refresh?
starseer2008 (11:09:30 PM): It's there now, but only 350...
mdjoseph24 (11:09:32 PM): sent already
mdjoseph24 (11:09:40 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:09:43 PM): sent two
mdjoseph24 (11:09:58 PM): got all?
starseer2008 (11:09:59 PM): Oh wait, they're both there now.
starseer2008 (11:10:19 PM): Hold on one second, changing it to a temporary pw for you and then it will be yours.
mdjoseph24 (11:10:30 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:12:10 PM): When you change the email on the account, just let us know and we'll confirm it, btw.
mdjoseph24 (11:12:17 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:12:18 PM): login pass?
starseer2008 (11:12:45 PM): USERNAME: *********
PASSWORD: **********
starseer2008 (11:13:09 PM):
It has game time until the 18th, you'll need to put new game card info or whatnot in by then.
mdjoseph24 (11:13:26 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:13:30 PM): sec
mdjoseph24 (11:13:35 PM): requesting email change
mdjoseph24 (11:13:41 PM): can you confirm in your old wow email?
starseer2008 (11:13:58 PM): You need to know the old one to do the new one?
mdjoseph24 (11:14:15 PM): no
mdjoseph24 (11:14:16 PM): dont need to
mdjoseph24 (11:14:25 PM): you can get email from blizz in your old wow email
mdjoseph24 (11:14:30 PM): there is confirmation link
mdjoseph24 (11:14:38 PM): you need to confirm that link if i request email change
starseer2008 (11:14:50 PM): Yep, waiting to do so.
mdjoseph24 (11:15:24 PM): tea
mdjoseph24 (11:15:24 PM): yea
mdjoseph24 (11:15:26 PM): request sent
starseer2008 (11:15:42 PM): Forwarding the email. You have to log in to confirm, don't want to mess it up if you've already changed the pw.
mdjoseph24 (11:15:53 PM): no
mdjoseph24 (11:15:53 PM): not change pass yet
mdjoseph24 (11:15:59 PM): you can get in now
starseer2008 (11:16:21 PM): Alright, logging in to confirm then.
mdjoseph24 (11:16:36 PM): l
mdjoseph24 (11:16:36 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:16:43 PM): let me know when email change confirmed
starseer2008 (11:17:09 PM): Okay, there should be a confirmation email sent to your email.
mdjoseph24 cancelled the Direct IM invitation.
mdjoseph24 (11:17:30 PM): umm
mdjoseph24 (11:17:35 PM): update successful?
starseer2008 (11:17:50 PM): Update Successful!
our contact information has been successfully updated. If you wish to make changes to any other information, you may do so by returning to Account Management and making further selections there.
mdjoseph24 (11:19:29 PM): original owner name?
mdjoseph24 (11:19:38 PM): how many gold on account now?
starseer2008 (11:20:05 PM): The one on the account is ********** There's about 500g on the account.
mdjoseph24 (11:20:23 PM): okay
mdjoseph24 (11:20:27 PM): cd key?
starseer2008 (11:20:31 PM): I do have an email out to them, trying to get the answer to the secret question, but I haven't recieved a response in about a week.
mdjoseph24 (11:20:38 PM): if you know secret question can you remember answer?
starseer2008 (11:21:10 PM): starseer2008 (11:04:01 PM): If you just pay to the email I'd like to hold the CD key until the chargeback period has passed. Otherwise I'm working on the invoice right now.
mdjoseph24 (11:04:16 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:04:27 PM): one moment
mdjoseph24 (11:04:30 PM): paying now
mdjoseph24 (11:22:00 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:22:01 PM): You didn't want to wait for the invoice to be sent. I would like to wait to ensure that there is no chargeback on the account.
mdjoseph24 (11:22:22 PM): if you know question can you remember what answe is?
starseer2008 (11:23:14 PM): What we can do is FedEx you the box with the CDs in it. That way we will have proof that an exchange took place via tracking number and a signature.
mdjoseph24 (11:23:38 PM): k
starseer2008 (11:24:01 PM): I don't have the secret question, but if I can get in touch with the original owner I will send it to you. If he remembers it.
starseer2008 (11:24:44 PM): If you have any questions on the account at any point you can email. We're not scammers, we just don't play ally anymore and need the money more than an account that sits and does nothing but let us collect ally pets.
mdjoseph24 (11:24:45 PM): k
mdjoseph24 (11:24:49 PM): all done now thanks
starseer2008 (11:27:31 PM): Thank you, too! And if you have any problems with it please let us know, it's nice to know those guys are actually going to get some time spent on them again.
mdjoseph24 (11:27:50 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (11:27:52 PM): thanks
starseer2008 (11:28:45 PM): Are you home during the day? I'll need a signature for the FedEx package, so you or someone else will need to be able to sign for it.
mdjoseph24 (11:29:07 PM): kk
starseer2008 (11:38:17 PM): Alright, well I'm logging off of here, I actually hate AIM and prefer not to use it. Like I said, if you have any questions or issues be sure to email. And if you don't immediately character transfer I do apologize for any strange whispers you get, people might recognize the names and try jumping us for not logging on for so long.
mdjoseph24 (11:39:41 PM): kk
mdjoseph24 (11:39:43 PM): later
<span style="font-weight: bold">Pictures/Screenshots: </span>
I can add later; need to open new photobucket acc't.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other proof: </span>
<span style="color: #66FFFF"><span style="font-weight: bold">Additional Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Not enough apparently; I just checked that his paypal was verified.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span> No.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on Markee Dragon?:</span> This was the first one. =|
