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Scammed Pred Account Apex

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Dispute Type
Scam Accusation

raxflexx

Level 23

Trade Guardian Orders: 2

(100%) (1 review)
Country
Netherlands
Member Since
Dec 10, 2020
Country
Netherlands
Multiple Accounts
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Trade Guardian Dispute - Trade Guardian was used.
Member Dispute - You purchased something from a member and there is a problem.
Scam Accusation - You believe this member is a scammer, not a legit buyer or seller.


Information
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Purchase Date: 30 December 2020
Date the problem begain: 1/4/2021
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]
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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):
Approximate value of property: $150 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/delac.651595/

What is the dispute about?

I bought a Apex Pred account.
everything was changed. email, password, phone number. everything.
now i logged in on the account today and saw that i was banned.
i told him on discord that the account was banned, and i went offline.
when i came back i tried to log in again.
but i couldn't go on the account.
so i tried to recover my email several times.
but i dont getting any email to recover my email.
that means the email is changed.
prob he got he's account back.
i contacted him on discord and still no respone even i saw him comming online.
so he readed it!

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Proof
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)

No proof but he told me he was

What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)

Email change, pass change, secret question change, phone number change

How long did you have the account before it was recalled?

less then a weak


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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
As I said in the group chat, I have not recovered the account. The account was banned under the buyers control and ownership. I don't know what has happened, but I can assure you that I didn't recover the account and I have no way to prove it.

All I know is that I dont have access to the account and I have not recovered any details. He got the original creation email, so I won't have any substantial evidence to claim my right to the account. No purchases on the account has ever been made, so I couldn't even show any proof of payment...
I did everything I could to help him, but his response was either "IDC" or no reply at all. He got banned himself. I didn't have any interactions with the account after the sale. He has been playing on it for a week, so who knows how the account has been played on. I just know that I have never used 3rd party software or done anything to violate the ToS.
@Angel
 
well.

can you explain to me why my email isnt working.
even when i got banned i can still go into my account to make a unappeal.
but now i cant either login or receive a password.
explain me that!
also i messaged you and called you.
you the one that didnt answer anymore.
but pls explain how the email is changed of the account.
since its your *personal* account you the only one that can do that ;)
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
I was not by my PC when you called me.
You are obviously banned for using a VPN. Probably the reason why the account has been banned on Apex as well.

As I said in the group chat, I bought the account shortly after the release of the game and made the account my own personal account, with everything.
When I sold the account I gave you full ownership of the account, with email to change and password to change on that specific email, steam account with password and email and origin ID and password. Everything was yours.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
I had just as much information about the account as you did. I couldn't have recovered the account.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Furthermore I replied in the groupchat with the middleman and complied and provided evidence that I did not reclaim the account. I complied with the changing of the email address and phone number change AGAIN. Why would I do that if I had recovered the account?
 
and i was watching Netflix with VPN to see some thing i cant see in my country.i alt tabbed to Epic and got the message.
dont try to claim thing that aren't there!
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Jesus ****ing christ. That takes ages to update, that's not reliable information!?
That doesn't prove that I recovered the account!?
Also you said that the account was banned, how am I able to play then!?

+193 pts in a single match? How is that possible? Even with a win in diamond you would only get 177 pts...
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Jesus ****ing christ. That takes ages to update, that's not reliable information!?
That doesn't prove that I recovered the account!?
Also you said that the account was banned, how am I able to play then!?

+193 pts in a single match? How is that possible? Even with a win in diamond you would only get 177 pts...
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
You told me, that the account was banned BEFORE the email change or whatever has happened. Almost a week after the purchase of the account. I have not been playing Apex ever since season 3, so I definitely didnt hack on the account.
Furthermore you ACCEPT the risk of being banned for purchasing accounts, as it's against the ToS, that is not the sellers problem.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Im done with taking shots when I know I didnt recover the account and tried to help. Nothing I say or do brings us any closer to the truth or the cleansing of my name. If you wanna continue with the dispute, go ahead. I've done everything I could do to prove my innocence.
I did the duties as the seller of the account by providing the information needed to bring full ownership of the account to the buyer. I didn't recover, nor get the account banned.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Okay great. I played back in season 5 for less than a month, and again 1 week before I sold the account to test that everything was as it should before I sold it.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Regardless of anything you think you have proven or you think it was me that has recovered the account. The screens you have posted doesn't prove anything, as you can connect that account to the account I sold you. Could be a different player for all I know as I did NOT recover the account after the sale.
I delivered the account with everything promised as the duty of my role as seller. Original email, steam account, origin account. You got it banned and now you want your money back. I did NOT recover the account, and I have complied with all the help asked of me by the middleman (Delac) - Also just secured the original email with Delac's phone number etc.

Thats all I gotta say. Let it be up to the admin if they wanna slander my name any further by falsely banning me from the site.
 
@max12414 in your thread you posted that you are the original owner. Please contact support and ask them to help you with this issue. An image with reply should be posted here soon after they respond
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
I no longer have access to the email address, as Delac changed the password and secured it with his phone number...
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
I just contacted support, and they said, that they could find no account in the database matching the email.
I can not see the full conversation for some reason.

I informed them, that the email address was: [email protected]. As it was when I sold the account to the buyer.
I then asked if they could recover the account and restore it to me, but they couldn't as there was no account with that email in the database.

So that was that account...!
 

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
I already did that!. Im tired of trying to clear my name from something I didn't do. I don't want to post sensitive information about myself from a private conversation with the support.
As I said, I contacted them, answered all the questions they had for me about the account, but they couldn't locate the account and therefore they couldn't give me access to the account again.
 
I already did that!. Im tired of trying to clear my name from something I didn't do. I don't want to post sensitive information about myself from a private conversation with the support.
As I said, I contacted them, answered all the questions they had for me about the account, but they couldn't locate the account and therefore they couldn't give me access to the account again.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/s3-pred-permanent-predator-dive-trail-and-much-more.1823810/

In your thread, you posted that you are the original owner, and with MM's conversation you were clear that you are not. This is clearly false advertising and you automatically lose this dispute. A full refund must be issued or the same value account replace. You have 48 hrs to resolve this
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
There is no way I am gonna refund the money and get nothing. He got the account banned and I won't have an account at all. Him getting the account banned and losing it shouldn't be on me. No way. Ban me if you need to. Lol
 
There is no way I am gonna refund the money and get nothing. He got the account banned and I won't have an account at all. Him getting the account banned and losing it shouldn't be on me. No way. Ban me if you need to. Lol
We do not have evidence that is banned or recalled as you are not the original owner. You are free to reach the original owner to help you in resolving this but in the case you fail my decision from above will remain
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Ban me then. I didn't do anything wrong, I've owned this account with the original email since the release of this game, so I AM the original owner...
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Im not gonna refund or give another account to this guy when I didn't do anything wrong.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
You didn't lose the account to a scammer, because I did everything that was asked of me as the seller. YOU lost the account by getting it banned and whatever else happened as I didn't recover it.
End of story.
 
it is banned for no reason. after that i lost every acces to the account. looks like its called back to the owner.
you claim to be the owner. then you should have it or you can get the account back with help of support.
 
so 2 thing.
1 - you recovered the account and just lie to us ( and scammed me for 150$ )
2 - you lie to us for being the owner of the account. and that the Original owner recovered the account!
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
It got banned for a reason, and seeing I didn't play on the account for quite a while before you took ownership of it, it could only be because of your actions, not mine.
I already tried to get it back by contacting support, but I refuse to post a private conversation with the support and leak my own personal information to a 3rd party site outside of EA.
 
so i can get banned for playing on an account? lmao.

1 - you recovered the account and just lie to us ( and scammed me for 150$ )
2 - you lie to us for being the owner of the account. and that the Original owner recovered the account!

you just cutting your own fingers buddy.
simple as that. its not rocket science.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
You are really as stupid as you sound. Lol. "You are cutting your own fingers, buddy"

Buying an account is a break on ToS and that was most likely the reason you got banned.
I was compliant and tried to help you recover the account. Sucks that I couldn't, but I tried. I am not refunding ****, as I fulfilled my duties as the seller and didn't recover the account.
 
im really done with talking to you.
*tried to help you recover the account* without proof it didnt happend.

*you cutting your own fingers* is a saying in my country ;)

i will wait for Angel to respone. i said what i had to say.
i lost my money and the account.


too bad there are still people scamming others .
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
You are really asking me to leak my own personal information in a conversation with the support on a 3rd party site on the internet. Are you dumb?

Well it doesn't make you sound any less stupid.

Too bad there are still paranoid people like you, not trusting a word from someone actually telling the truth ;)
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-pred-account-apex.1829097/
Ban me already then. Lol. This site is a joke anyway if you ask sellers to prove their innocence by posting pic on a 3rd party website of their personal information. Last 4 digits of your credit card, IP etc.
 
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