Scammed off 200$ while buying a Genshin Account

[Sasuchily]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 04.01.2023
Date the problem began: 04.01.2023
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]: RyDuGo#9962 (ID: 1036580385309605918)
Your Instant Messenger ID: Sasu#2061(ID: 283208496416161792)

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/ar-59-37-5-raiden-c2-hutao-c1-ganyu-c1-ayaka-nahida-more.2466700/
Approximate value of property: 200 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
The seller convinced me to pay first due to their reviews. I was about to use a Trade Guardian, but observed that I had no way of using paypal to pay the service. I should've known better.
Other details / notes:
The seller has deleted all of their messages after convincing me to pay, therefore my proof isn't very reliable, I am sorry for this.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/ar-59-37-5-raiden-c2-hutao-c1-ganyu-c1-ayaka-nahida-more.2466700/
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
They've deleted all of their messages right after I realized that they were scamming.

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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[Bonbis]

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I don't why u dispute that problema against me...
1- I never post my discord to make deals
2- We never chat here, the admin can see all our message in the page, and wey never talk here
3- Thats not my Paypal or discord account
I hope u solve ur "problem" but i don't why u try to scamm me if i never talk to u

 

[Bonbis]

There is our chat btw haha

 

[Sasuchily]

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You contacted me using that discord instantly after I posted a message on your post.

 

[Sasuchily]

 

[Sasuchily]

If this is not you, then someone has impersonated you. But I doubt that's the case, considering they messaged me instantly after dming you

 

[Bonbis]

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Stop bother me man, I just gonna wait for a admin to solve that problem... We never talk here, thats not my info, not my Paypal,not My discord, and that was our chats here and prove we never talk about the account, actually i never write u back ... I just gonna wait to admin solve this problem, but thats not my problem men

 

[Sasuchily]

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You instantly friended me on discord after I posted a message on your post, that couldn't have been an impersonator

 

[Angel]

You instantly friended me on discord after I posted a message on your post, that couldn't have been an impersonator

Can you post an image with the scammer's email where he asked you to send payment?

 

[Sasuchily]

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The scammer has deleted all of their messages off discord right before blocking me.
This should be enough to prove it. I even asked them to send me a message on EpicNPC just to make sure, but in the end they didn't. I am pretty sure they weren't an impersonator however. They sent me a discord friend request in the second in which I posted a message on the account's thread, and asked me to edit my message to "remove my discord from there for safety reasons". They claimed they had "good reviews on their page", and I did check and the reviews were pretty old but seemingly reliable.
I can try contacting discord to see if they can help me with the deleted messages, but I can't guarantee anything. I can give you a screenshot of the paypal receipt, if it helps. Thank you so much for your help.

 

[Angel]

Check your Paypal transaction there should be able to find the email

 

[Sasuchily]

Their email is [email protected]
Paypal won't let me download a detailed report of all the transactions with emails until tomorrow (right now I can only access transactions from march). I can send you a screenshot of the email on the transaction by then

 

[Angel]

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[email protected] belongs to @MaraudsM901 but i can't find any connection between a scammer and @Bonbis

I am sorry for your lose, please next time try to skip discord and contact the members via website only.

 

[Sasuchily]

So the respective person was likely impersonated? But they DMed me exactly as I posted a message on the thread. It seems quite unlikely. Regardless thank you for your help

 

[Angel]

So the respective person was likely impersonated? But they DMed me exactly as I posted a message on the thread. It seems quite unlikely. Regardless thank you for your help

There are a lot of scammers who monitor forums, and sometimes they can be even faster in reaching the victim, so it can be very convincing that you are contacted by a real seller and not a scammer. If you contacted the seller on private this would be suspecting of course but public threads are visible to everyone.

 

[Sasuchily]

I did contact the seller too, but they didn't reply to me. I tried posting a message on the thread thinking that it would be faster that way. I suppose it is my fault then, I apologize.