Scammed Genshin Account with account recovery

[ShibaGod]

Trade Guardian ID #

71801

Dispute Against

Rixir_23

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Information
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Purchase Date: January 17, 2023
Date the problem began: February 15, 2023
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord and Epicnpc
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] Rixir_23, Nyx_Chronos
Your Instant Messenger ID: Shiba#5482

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=tg&group=2771967
Approximate value of property: $84.80 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Transaction #71801

What is the dispute about? He sold me the account and then used account recovery to get it back. He then proceeded to block me on discord so I couldn't contact him.

Other details / notes:


Proof
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You MUSTprovide proof or your claim will not be valid!

My email is not that email.

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) Yes.

What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
He provided me with information necessary for psn unlink.

How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
Arouynd 1 month.

If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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[Goodman]

@Rixir_23

 

[Goodman]

@Rixir_23 online and failed to reply

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

I messaged you

 

[Rixir_23]

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Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

Hello, so i was chatting with ShibaGod about this situation, i did apologize for what happened. I also apologized for saying the account was technically mine as its was since 2020. I offered Shiba a refund but didnt reply to that also to start the recovery process and that i would assist him with everything i can if needded but didnt say if he is. he knows the account Nickname/Has receipts/and date of account started/ heroes and weapons to be able to recover the account lost i relinquished every possible detail of the account sold to him so why would i want to recover the account when he can easily recover it back. He was accusing me of scamming and that i blocked him from discord but i deleted my discord as i have nothing else to sell for a long while. But i did not block or delete from Epicnpc that way anyone can still message me here if needed.

As you can see from the pics he posted from our discord messages i gave him all the account details so he can fully take over the account

 

[Goodman]

@ShibaGod

 

[ShibaGod]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I don't know what you want me to say. i have proof that you said that you were the original owner of the account. So if you were lying and there was risk that involved in selling me the account, isn't that your fault to own up for your lies? The discord thing doesn't even make sense. The websites doesn't include deletion as why my message doesn't go through. https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060145013 for reference. Being blocked makes it much more likely that you were trying to evade me. Regardless, you lied about you being the owner. If I knew you were not the original owner, I would never have bought it.

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

I already apologized for that, you have every single detail to recover the account i gave every info needed to get it back so either u take the refund or not. Or start the recovery proccess but either way i end up losing if i give u refund u can always recover account

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

also i can click on ignore to stop you from messaging here on this site but i dont do that, so its up to you if u wish to recover the account u have everything neccesary to do so.

 

[ShibaGod]

I will take the refund then

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

I will give you the refund, but i will be checking the UID constantly to see if the email has changed because if u start the recovery process while also getting your money then i am the one getting scammed here and i have a lot to lose, its a 2 way street. You could have changed the email to open a complaint and try to get your money back. I have never gotten any complaints from my past buyers about an account getting recovered so this is a first for me.


@CryingGod.

whats your final verdict?

 

[ShibaGod]

You can do that. You can check it everyday because I don't have it

 

[ShibaGod]

If you want to message me please do it on here Rixir_23 so that we can all see the messages

 

[Rixir_23]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

Message Lenox#5704 on discord he is the person i got the account from long ago. See if you can get anything out of him

 

[ShibaGod]

You can do that. I did not buy an account where it was owned by someone else as the original owner instead of you. I don't have time to waste with this and just give me my money back. you can try to get the account back from someone you bought it from which you did not mention and figure it out with him. Give me my money and stop trying to drag this on and detract me. I don't have time to waste like this. You are the one who lied and scammed me so you do it

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

i didnt take back the account so im just gonna wait to see what the moderator has to say about all this. I dont even recognize wat email that is that was linked now.

 

[Goodman]

i didnt take back the account so im just gonna wait to see what the moderator has to say about all this. I dont even recognize wat email that is that was linked now.

You said that wanted to refund and shiba declined it, he wants a refund because account isn't safe, so please refund to him and you can recover the account for yourself

 

[ShibaGod]

Rixir Please message me here. I do not know why you keep trying to message me privately. I want everything too be seen. I do not believe that you were able to retrieve it that quickly and I was lied to. I want to get a full refund.

 

[ShibaGod]

You said that you got your account back so please give me my money back.

 

[Rixir_23]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

I didnt retrieve the account i talked to the person who sold me the account and he is the one who recovered it, he said he is willing to return the account to you but you just have to message him on his discord he will not release the account to me. but i will not be giving you a refund so ban me if its necessary i dont have the account in my possesion.

 

[ShibaGod]

I want my refund

 

[Rixir_23]

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

You have every single info/receipt/screenshot and the name of the person to get the account back i cant give you a refund when you can easily go and get the account back after you get your money. Go get it back from original owner he agreed to return it to you. I will not be replying or coming back to this site again.

 

[ShibaGod]

@CryingGod.

 

[Rixir_23]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-genshin-account-with-account-recovery.2434862/

I gave the seller your discord so thats all i can do for you, good luck

 

[ShibaGod]

@CryingGod.

Could I please get your input on this?

 

[Goodman]

I gave the seller your discord so thats all i can do for you, good luck

You said that to me that offered a refund and he declined it. So that was a lie as I see.
You are responsible for what you sell, Shiba doesn't have to talk with other buyers at all when you do sell unsafe accounts.
You have 12 hours to issue a refund or will get a permanent ban on current and future accounts.

 

[Goodman]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@CryingGod.

Could I please get your input on this?

Probably it's his fake discord account, in the thread he stated that is original owner and has an account since day 1.

 

[Goodman]

Banned
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