Scammed by wrong SetsunaEpic, who I guess later can be

[Rizam]

On 16th of September SetsunaEpic added me on Disgord. He wanted to buy RSL account with Baron Cruetraxa and Rae. He asked if I can give him email/password first due to his high reputation. So, I agreed. But he changed email/password and wrote to me that I gave him wrong acc. Later i see that RSLDeal is selling my account. So, I think that wrong SetsunaEpic and RSLDeal is the same who scammed me and how I know many other players. Please, do something, I want my account back or money.

So, he hid all accs after it https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/cheap-account-shop-ask-what-you-need.1493992/
Found it

 

[Trekktondo]

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[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

I paid for the account simple as that, i even got receipt over paypal and i did not buy it from this fake setsuna even tho he has tried scamming me as well but im not a faller for that.

 

[Guardian1969]

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[Trekktondo]

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[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

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[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

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[Trekktondo]

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[Rizam]

We all understand that he can have two accounts. And transfer money from one to another to make an illusion that he bought it from another palyer

 

[Guardian1969]

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[Guardian1969]

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[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

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[Guardian1969]

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[Trekktondo]

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[EpicNPC CM]

@Rizam post an image of the setsuna discord with the #

If you are not involved in this do no post here. If you were scammed by this user open your own dispute.

@RSLDeal please send me images of your paypal payment for this account

 

[Zyntex]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/rsl-scam.2208636/

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[Rizam]

 

[RSLDeal]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Its funny to see all the people on his top chat list who wanted to buy accs off me. all of the party of 4 are on his list, he has this dude even on his list from who i bought the account lol, i wonder what did they talk about? Ecultas was before with other discord name, i bought account off him. Kinda weird that they chat together

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@RSLDeal please send me an image of the paypal payment. Closing this till I receive it.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@RSLDeal

I need you to send me a video showing :

1) Chat logs where the account is shown and price discussed with the person you bought it from
2) Payment information, including seller's Paypal email address or what ever payment method was used
3) Proof of payment showing it was actually sent.
4) The person's skype/discord username who you bought the account from.

 

[RSLDeal]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

@RSLDeal

I need you to send me a video showing :

1) Chat logs where the account is shown and price discussed with the person you bought it from
2) Payment information, including seller's Paypal email address or what ever payment method was used
3) Proof of payment showing it was actually sent.
4) The person's skype/discord username who you bought the account from.

There are no chat logs in the finnish trading chat website. When the deal is done the chat is gone as well...
Did send u the paypal receipt
Did send u the paypal receipt, no idea what else ur asking for
ask his discord from the person who reported me because hes been chating with him like it shows on the screens

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Which website did you buy the account off of? Link it here.


Your chat with the person you bought the account from only took place on that website? Not discord/skype?

 

[Rizam]

Which website did you buy the account off of? Link it here.


Your chat with the person you bought the account from only took place on that website? Not discord/skype?

Ive attached screenshots where you can see that it was my account , i gave him email/pass first. No website lol, he is talking nonsense.

 

[RSLDeal]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Which website did you buy the account off of? Link it here.


Your chat with the person you bought the account from only took place on that website? Not discord/skype?

Vahvel.net
U can get the sellers personal discord from rizam since insee he chatted with him, same profile screen and he changed name.

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Ive attached screenshots where you can see that it was my account , i gave him email/pass first. No website lol, he is talking nonsense.

When did u give me the info, post me the screenshot.
I really wanna see when we made any deals at all.

Ahh noticed that we actually have made a trade. But not for that acc

 

[Rizam]

Vahvel.net
U can get the sellers personal discord from rizam since insee he chatted with him, same profile screen and he changed name.

Lol, this is forum , not site for trading accs

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Lol, this is forum , not site for trading accs

Just lol...

 

[Rizam]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I checked Vahvel.net. There is not even single RSL account to buy. And this excuse that every conversation after trade is deleted is very convenient for you. No evidences at all.
And yes, I have discord of person you bought my account from because you gave me his discord. Never talked with him anyway.
Basically you can't prove you bought it from him and if you bought this account and you had his discord all the time there should be some conversations between both of you.

 

[Rizam]

Here it is

 

[Trekktondo]

Here it is

Sorry for posting here but i noticed that @lexpok is Epicnpc.com member and seller on RSL forum. Maybe he has something to say about this?

 

[Rizam]

Watched his postings, he didnt sell that my account, so its really interesting how RSLDeal got it and resell

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

I checked Vahvel.net. There is not even single RSL account to buy. And this excuse that every conversation after trade is deleted is very convenient for you. No evidences at all.
And yes, I have discord of person you bought my account from because you gave me his discord. Never talked with him anyway.
Basically you can't prove you bought it from him and if you bought this account and you had his discord all the time there should be some conversations between both of you.

Would be dumb actually to keep blackmarket visible for non registred members.
Blackmarket visible for members only, stop turning up bs. Ur not gonna get any money from me so im kinda lost what are u trying to get from me? Get me banned? I have receipt of payment. Ask where ur friend got the account, report him. Ask trekk told hes member from this forum. I buy cheap, sell higher. Happens sometimes when the account isnt claimed by legit way, i dont know the accs history if the seller doesnt tell truth.
U basically reporting me because i bought the acc for certain price and resold it.

 

[Waleris]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-waleris.1696757/

Would be dumb actually to keep blackmarket visible for non registred members.
Blackmarket visible for members only, stop turning up bs. Ur not gonna get any money from me so im kinda lost what are u trying to get from me? Get me banned? I have receipt of payment. Ask where ur friend got the account, report him. Ask trekk told hes member from this forum. I buy cheap, sell higher. Happens sometimes when the account isnt claimed by legit way, i dont know the accs history if the seller doesnt tell truth.
U basically reporting me because i bought the acc for certain price and resold it.

I registered on your site and dont see any blackmarket.what are you talking about?

 

[Angel]

I had confirmed that Vahvel.net has nothing to do with selling or buying accounts. @RSLDeal do you have any evidence from whom did you purchased this account?
Also, do you have any evidence who is your other suppliers from whom you purchasing other accounts?

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

I registered on your site and dont see any blackmarket.what are you talking about?

I had confirmed that Vahvel.net has nothing to do with selling or buying accounts. @RSLDeal do you have any evidence from whom did you purchased this account?
Also, do you have any evidence who is your other suppliers from whom you purchasing other accounts?

Were you allowed to post somewhere random post? If not then ur registration is not verified.
Moderator making false accusations now, make sure ur sure about the facts u post. try to post on forum somewhere and then we discuss it further

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

I had confirmed that Vahvel.net has nothing to do with selling or buying accounts. @RSLDeal do you have any evidence from whom did you purchased this account?
Also, do you have any evidence who is your other suppliers from whom you purchasing other accounts?

no other mods involved so thanks for requesting my ban, i guess u linked admins this link. what a douchebag

https://imgur.com/a/Wbomh9J

 

[Angel]

@RSLDeal I did not request anything and my investigation was not involved any Vahvel.net Admins or Mods conversations.

Please create a video where are you trying to connect at your Vahvel.net account together with this message. Upload a video on Youtube and post here

Also please post a video where is clearly visible that such a "black market" exist

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

@RSLDeal I did not request anything and my investigation was not involved any Vahvel.net Admins or Mods conversations.

Please create a video where are you trying to connect at your Vahvel.net account together with this message. Upload a video on Youtube and post here

Also please post a video where is clearly visible that such a "black market" exist

How the fk am i suppost to make a vid when u contacted the admins there and linked this? the blackmarkets on the site is visible only members. contact the mod same way u asked them to ban me...

 

[Angel]

Create a video in the same way as you take a screenshot of this message.

Only staff can view this content.

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

anyway psting and letting know that i will accept the ban that i get, enough is enough and ill move on elsewhere. Mark this that i swear i havent scammed a single person on this forum, ive purchased accounts for cheaper price whoever offers me, most of them just add me and offer me, i dont know theyr forum user, most of them dont leave me feedback back so i dont know who am i dealing with but this thread i bought acc offsite for 150 since it was a nice account and i hoped to build it up a little and get some profit as allways but it seems like the seller has gotten it elsewhere by illegal way.
merchanters are like they are, sellers lie to them about account histories, who can u tell who tells truth who lies? nobody
im person who keeps trusting people and thats it. i didnt even profit from this account but lost 50 usd since market values have droped awfully.

whoever wanted to get rid of me, be happy. im out, i dont have anything to prove with im innocent because the mod just contacted vahvel.net mod or admin there and was requested to ban me, thanks.

 

[evanpattern]

Banned - spam

Removed

 

[Angel]

@RSLDeal please post a video which i requested

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Create a video in the same way as you take a screenshot of this message.
[Hidden content]

thats last from me, do whatever u want with the vid

 

[Angel]

Not an image of the page that can be faked. Post a video where are you log in at your account and where it is visible that you were banned.

1. Went on the login page

2. Add your user name and password

3. Login

Create this video and post here

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Not an image of the page that can be faked. Post a video where are you log in at your account and where it is visible that you were banned.

1. Went on the login page

2. Add your user name and password

3. Login

Create this video and post here

lol, just ban me. ill find another site and ill dispute money back from all of my purchases ive made off this site. this is just hilarious, im actually the ****ing victim and ur stressing me out with **** u have done, u got me banned there. ive given everything, every ****ing little thing.
u foreign in vahvel.net thats why u cant post, thats why u cant see blackmarket in any kind. just ban me but remember, thats a false ban and alot of people will be happy for that to gain theyr own advantage, profits.

 

[Angel]

By this, you accepted that you faked this video and attempted to falsely accuse the mod. All with a purpose to clean the tracks which can lead to the fact that all this story with the "black market" was pure imagination and hiding of real way how did you obtain this account.

We gave you enough time to prove your innocence and in the end, all that we had got from you is zero evidence rolled with blackmail.

@EpicNPC CM from my side this person should not be allowed to continue to use this website anymore but final judgment I will leave to you

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

By this, you accepted that you faked this video and attempted to falsely accuse the mod. All with a purpose to clean the tracks which can lead to the fact that all this story with the "black market" was pure imagination and hiding of real way how did you obtain this account.

We gave you enough time to prove your innocence and in the end, all that we had got from you is zero evidence rolled with blackmail.

@EpicNPC CM from my side this person should not be allowed to continue to use this website anymore but final judgment I will leave to you

faked what video? my ban reason is in english: epicnpc mod request. who wrote to mod/admin in there and linked this?

why did u make false accusation on me? why didnt u try to post on vahvel.net? why u couldnt post in there? because ur not verified member, who ever contacted vahvel.net mod or admin and requested my bad, grats u did a gr8 job

 

[Waleris]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-waleris.1696757/

Removed

 

[Waleris]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-waleris.1696757/

Removed

 

[RSLDeal]

Banned - failure to resolve : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-wrong-setsunaepic-who-i-guess-later-can-be.1511188/page-2

Stop your bs with your stupid site already.

**** u


OT: If no real investigation will not come and i receive ban then letting u guys know that whoever has sold me theyr accounts, i will dispute the money back.