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Dispute Date: 9/01/2013
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: fofogogo23
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: TheFieryTaco
Your Instant Messenger ID: CJ (biglos1870000)
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account was recalled , made a bunch of excucses then removed me from skype.
Link of transaction thread:http://www.epicnpc.com/beta-keys-codes/547120-elder-scrolls-beta-stress-test.html was my Trade to him
http://www.epicnpc.com/beta-keys-codes/547191-full-access-beta-wildstar.html was the selling tocoopers
Approximate value of property: $75.00 USD
Was a middleman used? no
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Other details / notes:
I traded my ESO beta as well as the email for his Wildstar beta account. Trade went through fine, He did not offer his email because he stated it was personal ( pictures will be below) I sold wildstar beta account to DBcooper2 on Aug 15th. Account was Recalled by the OO Thefierytaco about a week ago. DBcoop contacted me I then contacted thefierytaco. ( Had us 3 discuss it on skype will paste photos) Taco stated that he would check to see if he got the email for password reset, the then said he didnt get anything. 3 min later he says his personal account account info was just changed ( right after he told me he didnt get any emails LOL ? ) He stated he did a account recover on his Personal email. Had cooper friend him on skype ad told him he had 24 hours to give cooper the sign on info before i posted on epic npc. Checked today, I am removed from skype and he does not reply to my msges.
Proof
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Dispute Date: 9/01/2013
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: fofogogo23
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: TheFieryTaco
Your Instant Messenger ID: CJ (biglos1870000)
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account was recalled , made a bunch of excucses then removed me from skype.
Link of transaction thread:http://www.epicnpc.com/beta-keys-codes/547120-elder-scrolls-beta-stress-test.html was my Trade to him
http://www.epicnpc.com/beta-keys-codes/547191-full-access-beta-wildstar.html was the selling tocoopers
Approximate value of property: $75.00 USD
Was a middleman used? no
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Other details / notes:
I traded my ESO beta as well as the email for his Wildstar beta account. Trade went through fine, He did not offer his email because he stated it was personal ( pictures will be below) I sold wildstar beta account to DBcooper2 on Aug 15th. Account was Recalled by the OO Thefierytaco about a week ago. DBcoop contacted me I then contacted thefierytaco. ( Had us 3 discuss it on skype will paste photos) Taco stated that he would check to see if he got the email for password reset, the then said he didnt get anything. 3 min later he says his personal account account info was just changed ( right after he told me he didnt get any emails LOL ? ) He stated he did a account recover on his Personal email. Had cooper friend him on skype ad told him he had 24 hours to give cooper the sign on info before i posted on epic npc. Checked today, I am removed from skype and he does not reply to my msges.
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CONVERSATION WITH THE 3 OF US YESTERDAY
[9/1/2013 3:02:10 PM] C j: Charles meet DB and DB meet charles
[9/1/2013 3:02:19 PM] C j: Charles is the OO of teh wild star
[9/1/2013 3:02:22 PM] Charles M.: Hey mate.
[9/1/2013 3:02:24 PM] db cooper: hey
[9/1/2013 3:02:34 PM] Charles M.: I can't log in to my email, are you sure you didn't let a friend borrow your account or anything?
[9/1/2013 3:02:43 PM] db cooper: positive
[9/1/2013 3:03:12 PM] db cooper: why cant you login to email?
[9/1/2013 3:03:12 PM] Charles M.: Contact support maybe
[9/1/2013 3:03:19 PM] Charles M.: It says invalid username or password
[9/1/2013 3:03:23 PM] Charles M.: But it's the same I've always had
[9/1/2013 3:03:26 PM] C j: how cna you NOT log into your email charles?
[9/1/2013 3:03:31 PM] db cooper: what...
[9/1/2013 3:03:53 PM] db cooper: support isnt going to do anything, they're going to tell me to do password recovery which is an email sent to your email
[9/1/2013 3:03:56 PM] Charles M.: It's not MY email, it's a secondary email made mainly for the account
[9/1/2013 3:04:04 PM] C j: No,
[9/1/2013 3:04:07 PM] C j: wait
[9/1/2013 3:04:16 PM] C j: you told me it wa syoru personal email
[9/1/2013 3:04:16 PM] Charles M.: I mean, it's MY email but not one I use daily, it's an account that I get emails on often
[9/1/2013 3:04:20 PM] Charles M.: It's personal
[9/1/2013 3:04:23 PM] Charles M.: Just for spam mostly
[9/1/2013 3:04:28 PM] Charles M.: Like signups to websites
[9/1/2013 3:04:29 PM] Charles M.: And stuff
[9/1/2013 3:04:40 PM] db cooper: can you do a recovery on it
[9/1/2013 3:04:42 PM] db cooper: and get the login
[9/1/2013 3:04:42 PM] Charles M.: Yes
[9/1/2013 3:04:44 PM] Charles M.: Gimme a minute
[9/1/2013 3:04:47 PM] db cooper: k thx
[9/1/2013 3:06:17 PM] C j: so they finnaly did account settign on wildstar?
[9/1/2013 3:07:21 PM] db cooper: yea
[9/1/2013 3:07:30 PM] db cooper: it was bugged when i tried it a while ago
[9/1/2013 3:11:37 PM] Charles M.: The recovery is in process
[9/1/2013 3:11:41 PM] Charles M.: I guess
[9/1/2013 3:12:06 PM] db cooper: you guess?
[9/1/2013 3:12:37 PM] C j: What does that mean?
[9/1/2013 3:16:55 PM] C j: Well, This needs to be resolved in the next 24 hours. Or i willpost on epicnpc fourms. Of the incident. You would be liable being as though you didnt want to give access to the email and now you dont have access to it. which im confused about.
[9/1/2013 3:17:01 PM] C j: agreed charles?
[9/1/2013 3:18:19 PM] Charles M.: Agreed
[9/1/2013 3:18:36 PM] Charles M.: I don't know, gmail wants more information about the account and i guess it's under manual recovery review or something
[9/1/2013 3:18:40 PM] Charles M.: I submitted all the info
[9/1/2013 3:18:59 PM] C j: ok so add eachother on skype, so you can have this resoved by tomorrow.
[9/1/2013 3:19:04 PM] C j: and let me know
[9/1/2013 3:19:06 PM] C j: opk guys?
[9/1/2013 3:20:18 PM] db cooper: okay i guess
[9/1/2013 3:20:26 PM] db cooper: im still wondering how the password got changed tho
[9/1/2013 3:20:30 PM] db cooper: on the wildstar acct
[9/1/2013 3:20:39 PM] C j: Yea, me too
[9/1/2013 3:21:07 PM] Charles M.: Me three
[9/1/2013 3:21:31 PM] db cooper: hopefully you get your email back and this can all be resolved nicely
[9/1/2013 3:27:00 PM] db cooper: you get the contact request?
[9/1/2013 3:28:13 PM] C j: i think he is afk
[9/1/2013 3:28:20 PM] C j: he had 100% feedback
[9/1/2013 3:28:38 PM] C j: so i dont thnk he is a bad guy
[9/1/2013 3:28:43 PM] C j: has*
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CONVERSATION WITH ME AND FIERYTACO FOR TRADE
[8/15/2013 12:00:40 AM] Charles M.: Want to trade the ESO for wildstar right now and you can just freely sell the wildstar?
[8/15/2013 12:01:16 AM] C j: i guess we could .
[8/15/2013 12:01:24 AM] C j: post on my post under teh beta section
[8/15/2013 12:01:32 AM] Charles M.: Sure
[8/15/2013 12:01:36 AM] Charles M.: Link please
[8/15/2013 12:01:45 AM] C j: and ar eyou 100% sure
[8/15/2013 12:01:52 AM] C j: no chance of getting banned?
[8/15/2013 12:01:55 AM] Charles M.: Yep.
[8/15/2013 12:02:01 AM] Charles M.: 120%
[8/15/2013 12:02:11 AM] Charles M.: Unless two people log in at once
[8/15/2013 12:04:33 AM] Charles M.: Let me know when you're ready, I'll be off in about 10-15 minutes max
[8/15/2013 12:05:06 AM] C j: http://www.epicnpc.com/beta-keys-codes/547120-elder-scrolls-beta-stress-test.html
[8/15/2013 12:05:55 AM] Charles M.: Done
[8/15/2013 12:06:21 AM] C j: ok need yoru info
[8/15/2013 12:06:32 AM] Charles M.: You mean game info?
[8/15/2013 12:06:39 AM] C j: yea
[8/15/2013 12:06:47 AM] Charles M.: Alright.
[8/15/2013 12:07:06 AM] Charles M.: username: dielgas
pw: B2@Nd0ne
[8/15/2013 12:07:24 AM] C j: hwo do i log in
[8/15/2013 12:07:32 AM] C j: ther eis no log in section on the site
[8/15/2013 12:07:35 AM] Charles M.: Via the launcher, want me to send you the .exe?
[8/15/2013 12:07:40 AM] C j: sure
[8/15/2013 12:07:53 AM] *** Charles M. sent Wildstar.exe ***
[8/15/2013 12:07:56 AM] Charles M.: Think that's it
[8/15/2013 12:08:09 AM] Charles M.: Yeah it is
[8/15/2013 12:08:42 AM] C j: i got it
[8/15/2013 12:08:50 AM] Charles M.: kk
[8/15/2013 12:09:04 AM] Charles M.: http://wildstar.ncsoft.com/ct/31467712:9325265669:m:1:772009480:08d35ecfec49db63b04dbc3206d8eb66:r
[8/15/2013 12:09:07 AM] Charles M.: Direct download
[8/15/2013 12:09:23 AM] Charles M.: http://wildstarbeta.patcher.ncsoft.com/Wildstar.exe
[8/15/2013 12:09:26 AM] Charles M.: SOrry
[8/15/2013 12:09:29 AM] Charles M.: That's the right one: http://wildstarbeta.patcher.ncsoft.com/Wildstar.exe
[8/15/2013 12:10:28 AM] C j: is tehre a section where i can change teh info?
[8/15/2013 12:10:43 AM] Charles M.: No, apparently to prevent account trading
[8/15/2013 12:10:47 AM] Charles M.: You have to manually email them
[8/15/2013 12:10:49 AM] Charles M.: Kind of ****ed up
[8/15/2013 12:11:26 AM] C j: so can i have access to the email so i can email them?
[8/15/2013 12:11:51 AM] Charles M.: Don't email them, changing the password is bad.
[8/15/2013 12:11:59 AM] Charles M.: I mean, you technically could if you really needed to
[8/15/2013 12:12:04 AM] Charles M.: But a PW change and IP change
[8/15/2013 12:12:10 AM] Charles M.: Idk, up to you I guess
[8/15/2013 12:12:14 AM] Charles M.: I'd advise against it
[8/15/2013 12:12:34 AM] C j: [email protected]
[8/15/2013 12:12:38 AM] C j: Happy187
[8/15/2013 12:12:40 AM] C j: or happy187
[8/15/2013 12:12:50 AM] Charles M.: Is there a place I can log in to test?
[8/15/2013 12:12:50 AM] C j: thats the email and also teh log in
[8/15/2013 12:12:56 AM] C j: um
[8/15/2013 12:13:20 AM] Charles M.: Also, is there a launcher/website/forum area I can access etc?
[8/15/2013 12:13:28 AM] C j: yea
[8/15/2013 12:13:29 AM] C j: 1 sec
[8/15/2013 12:13:40 AM] Charles M.: Oh, I also thought it was a key.
[8/15/2013 12:13:45 AM] Charles M.: Thread says so
[8/15/2013 12:13:50 AM] C j: yea
[8/15/2013 12:13:58 AM] C j: but i had to activate it
[8/15/2013 12:14:02 AM] Charles M.: kk
[8/15/2013 12:14:05 AM] C j: because the test is tomorrow
[8/15/2013 12:14:08 AM] C j: dont wnat to lose myplace
[8/15/2013 12:14:11 AM] Charles M.: Gotcha
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes / No (optional) Yes, Seems he tried to sell his Wildstar account again on Epic NPC AFTER he traded me for it.
Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional) No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? (optional) Multiple
