Information
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Date that scamming took place: 7/21/12
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: RS8 or Caglarhf
Your Instant Messenger ID: Stealth_Legend
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: Flashi
Other information:
Scam Information
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What was scammed?
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/league-legen...-account-2350-elo-some-skins.html#post2731394
Approximate value of scammed property: $80
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Describe how you were scammed: Asked for me to pay through paypal as a "GIFT" so that HE would not get scammed. I did (unknowing that if using GIFT through paypal i VOID any possibilty of me getting money back) and afterwards he logged off skype and never saw again.
Other details / notes: Derp.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: [10:57:11 AM] Abel Aleman: Hi caglarhf! I’d like to add you on Skype. Abel Aleman
[10:57:38 AM] RS8: RS8 has shared contact details with Abel Aleman.
[10:58:47 AM] RS8: ja?
[10:58:56 AM] Abel Aleman: hey
[10:58:58 AM] RS8: hi
[10:59:42 AM] RS8: ?
[10:59:43 AM] Abel Aleman: i asked about ur EUW account and you told me to add u on skype
[10:59:48 AM] RS8: aw
[10:59:50 AM] RS8: yea
[10:59:53 AM] RS8: how much u offer
[11:00:21 AM] Abel Aleman: i have about 80 left over from taxes so lookin for something around there
[11:00:55 AM] RS8: if 80€ then yes
[11:01:00 AM] Abel Aleman: but also i dont NEED an EUW account, just want another account on another server to smurf
[11:01:39 AM] RS8: ya if 80€ then yes^^
[11:01:42 AM] RS8: not dollars
[11:01:56 AM] Abel Aleman: 80E is 98 bucks :/
[11:02:06 AM] RS8: how much u offer now
[11:02:07 AM] Abel Aleman: that MAY be possible but id have to think about it
[11:02:32 AM] RS8: can u jsut answer clearly pls
[11:02:34 AM] Abel Aleman: if it was an NA account id jump on it lol
[11:02:35 AM] RS8: how much can u give me atm
[11:02:50 AM] RS8: and btw
[11:02:54 AM] RS8: paypal or paysafeacard
[11:03:08 AM] Abel Aleman: i have a verified paypal account
[11:03:28 AM] Abel Aleman: but at 80E, honestly no sorry
[11:03:37 AM] RS8: how much dollars are 80 in e
[11:04:24 AM] Abel Aleman: 65
[11:04:29 AM] RS8: lol?
[11:04:35 AM] RS8: thats ok too
[11:04:39 AM] RS8: i tought 80 dollars are 30 €
[11:04:41 AM] RS8: or somth
[11:05:16 AM] RS8: well i got scammed via paypal , the buyer took money easily back, how u gonna do it
[11:05:25 AM] Abel Aleman: scammed via paypal?
[11:05:37 AM] RS8: yes he send me money and just conflict took back
[11:05:54 AM] Abel Aleman: didnt know u could do that, did you give him the account info?
[11:06:03 AM] RS8: yes
[11:06:07 AM] RS8: i gave him main email
[11:06:10 AM] RS8: 2.1 acc
[11:06:14 AM] RS8: just stolenj
[11:06:16 AM] RS8: + no money
[11:06:23 AM] RS8: but if u send as a gift i would take ur offer
[11:06:41 AM] Abel Aleman: ? so he kept your account? and this is new one?
[11:06:50 AM] RS8: i push much accs
[11:06:52 AM] RS8: to 2k+
[11:06:54 AM] RS8: and sell
[11:07:02 AM] RS8: that was one of my jobs
[11:07:06 AM] RS8: 2.1
[11:07:15 AM] RS8: now i got this 2.350
[11:07:19 AM] Abel Aleman: ah only for EUW?
[11:07:23 AM] RS8: ya
[11:07:26 AM] RS8: i did east too
[11:07:28 AM] RS8: but na dunno
[11:08:11 AM] RS8: so
[11:08:15 AM] RS8: do u send as a gift
[11:08:19 AM] RS8: otherwise i dont want paypal
[11:08:54 AM] Abel Aleman: whats the difference in sending as a gift?
[11:09:06 AM] RS8: i heard its not easy to take the money back
[11:09:07 AM] RS8: after the trade
[11:09:11 AM] Abel Aleman: ahh
[11:09:13 AM] RS8: so im safe this time
[11:09:18 AM] Abel Aleman: makes sense
[11:09:21 AM] RS8: yep
[11:10:09 AM] Abel Aleman: sorry taking awhile, only prob i have is that also lookin at an NA account right now'
[11:10:23 AM] Abel Aleman: 1556 elo for $60
[11:10:30 AM] Abel Aleman: less elo but NA so thinkin
[11:10:43 AM] RS8: well this is nearly 2.4
[11:10:50 AM] RS8: for 65 its ok^^
[11:11:00 AM] RS8: normally 100+ but i need money asap coz i got depts
[11:11:08 AM] Abel Aleman: debts* lol
[11:11:14 AM] RS8: ya my eng boken
[11:11:16 AM] RS8: broken
[11:11:47 AM] Abel Aleman: for 65 im down. and how exactly do i make sure i dont get scammed?
[11:12:06 AM] RS8: hmm im new to epicnpc but i have 19+ and 0 negatives on elitepvpers
[11:12:09 AM] RS8: and ebay 100%
[11:12:18 AM] RS8: im selling accs since 9 months always 2k elo+
[11:12:40 AM] Abel Aleman: you give Main email you said?
[11:12:59 AM] RS8: yes the account created with so only u can rule the acc
[11:13:34 AM] Abel Aleman: and could i change password to that email after? youll give security password?
[11:13:55 AM] RS8: yes not only the mail
[11:14:00 AM] RS8: ull get mail whole mail
[11:14:04 AM] RS8: its hotmail.de
[11:14:12 AM] RS8: password and secret answer from email
[11:14:28 AM] Abel Aleman: kk
[11:14:32 AM] RS8: i always give all
[11:15:03 AM] Abel Aleman: sounds legit, only one way to find out
[11:15:15 AM] Abel Aleman: you got deal, im in paypal
[11:15:23 AM] RS8: yea but before u send money
[11:15:27 AM] RS8: i wanna see u sending as gift
[11:15:31 AM] Abel Aleman: i will
[11:15:34 AM] RS8: screenshare with skype or teamviewer
[11:16:13 AM] *** Call to RS8 ***
[11:16:30 AM] Abel Aleman: there?
[11:17:18 AM] RS8: ya
[11:17:21 AM] RS8: [email protected]
[11:17:27 AM] RS8: before u send press on gift
[11:18:00 AM] RS8: go on personal
[11:18:14 AM] RS8: yea there
[11:18:27 AM] RS8: euros
[11:19:37 AM] Abel Aleman: i thought it was 65 dollrs?
[11:19:42 AM] RS8: u said 80
[11:19:45 AM] RS8: i said euros
[11:19:47 AM] RS8: u said dollar
[11:19:53 AM] RS8: so u said 80 dollars are 65€
[11:19:55 AM] RS8: and i said ok^^
[11:19:56 AM] Abel Aleman: -__________________-
[11:19:58 AM] Abel Aleman: lol
[11:20:05 AM] RS8: how much euro are 65 dollar
[11:20:31 AM] RS8: i got 40 debts so i would take 53 € too...
[11:20:35 AM] Abel Aleman: 53
[11:20:40 AM] Abel Aleman: aight ill change
[11:20:43 AM] RS8: mang
[11:20:47 AM] RS8: just so chep
[11:20:48 AM] RS8: cheap
[11:21:06 AM] Abel Aleman: ill give 5, for niceness
[11:21:11 AM] Abel Aleman: 55
[11:21:14 AM] RS8: thanks
[11:22:12 AM] Abel Aleman: rdy?
[11:22:16 AM] RS8: yes
[11:23:01 AM] RS8: id : world876 pw: orange3333 mail : [email protected] pw: orange 3333 sa: baum
[11:23:03 AM] *** Call ended, duration 06:50 ***
[11:25:08 AM] Abel Aleman: ? not letting me sign in
[11:30:09 AM] Abel Aleman: YO
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Other proof:
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? NOT REALLY
Have you traded with this person before? NO
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? FIRST ONE, GREAT EXPERIENCE -____-
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Date that scamming took place: 7/21/12
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: RS8 or Caglarhf
Your Instant Messenger ID: Stealth_Legend
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: Flashi
Other information:
Scam Information
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What was scammed?
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/league-legen...-account-2350-elo-some-skins.html#post2731394
Approximate value of scammed property: $80
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Describe how you were scammed: Asked for me to pay through paypal as a "GIFT" so that HE would not get scammed. I did (unknowing that if using GIFT through paypal i VOID any possibilty of me getting money back) and afterwards he logged off skype and never saw again.
Other details / notes: Derp.
Proof
######################
You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: [10:57:11 AM] Abel Aleman: Hi caglarhf! I’d like to add you on Skype. Abel Aleman
[10:57:38 AM] RS8: RS8 has shared contact details with Abel Aleman.
[10:58:47 AM] RS8: ja?
[10:58:56 AM] Abel Aleman: hey
[10:58:58 AM] RS8: hi
[10:59:42 AM] RS8: ?
[10:59:43 AM] Abel Aleman: i asked about ur EUW account and you told me to add u on skype
[10:59:48 AM] RS8: aw
[10:59:50 AM] RS8: yea
[10:59:53 AM] RS8: how much u offer
[11:00:21 AM] Abel Aleman: i have about 80 left over from taxes so lookin for something around there
[11:00:55 AM] RS8: if 80€ then yes
[11:01:00 AM] Abel Aleman: but also i dont NEED an EUW account, just want another account on another server to smurf
[11:01:39 AM] RS8: ya if 80€ then yes^^
[11:01:42 AM] RS8: not dollars
[11:01:56 AM] Abel Aleman: 80E is 98 bucks :/
[11:02:06 AM] RS8: how much u offer now
[11:02:07 AM] Abel Aleman: that MAY be possible but id have to think about it
[11:02:32 AM] RS8: can u jsut answer clearly pls
[11:02:34 AM] Abel Aleman: if it was an NA account id jump on it lol
[11:02:35 AM] RS8: how much can u give me atm
[11:02:50 AM] RS8: and btw
[11:02:54 AM] RS8: paypal or paysafeacard
[11:03:08 AM] Abel Aleman: i have a verified paypal account
[11:03:28 AM] Abel Aleman: but at 80E, honestly no sorry
[11:03:37 AM] RS8: how much dollars are 80 in e
[11:04:24 AM] Abel Aleman: 65
[11:04:29 AM] RS8: lol?
[11:04:35 AM] RS8: thats ok too
[11:04:39 AM] RS8: i tought 80 dollars are 30 €
[11:04:41 AM] RS8: or somth
[11:05:16 AM] RS8: well i got scammed via paypal , the buyer took money easily back, how u gonna do it
[11:05:25 AM] Abel Aleman: scammed via paypal?
[11:05:37 AM] RS8: yes he send me money and just conflict took back
[11:05:54 AM] Abel Aleman: didnt know u could do that, did you give him the account info?
[11:06:03 AM] RS8: yes
[11:06:07 AM] RS8: i gave him main email
[11:06:10 AM] RS8: 2.1 acc
[11:06:14 AM] RS8: just stolenj
[11:06:16 AM] RS8: + no money
[11:06:23 AM] RS8: but if u send as a gift i would take ur offer
[11:06:41 AM] Abel Aleman: ? so he kept your account? and this is new one?
[11:06:50 AM] RS8: i push much accs
[11:06:52 AM] RS8: to 2k+
[11:06:54 AM] RS8: and sell
[11:07:02 AM] RS8: that was one of my jobs
[11:07:06 AM] RS8: 2.1
[11:07:15 AM] RS8: now i got this 2.350
[11:07:19 AM] Abel Aleman: ah only for EUW?
[11:07:23 AM] RS8: ya
[11:07:26 AM] RS8: i did east too
[11:07:28 AM] RS8: but na dunno
[11:08:11 AM] RS8: so
[11:08:15 AM] RS8: do u send as a gift
[11:08:19 AM] RS8: otherwise i dont want paypal
[11:08:54 AM] Abel Aleman: whats the difference in sending as a gift?
[11:09:06 AM] RS8: i heard its not easy to take the money back
[11:09:07 AM] RS8: after the trade
[11:09:11 AM] Abel Aleman: ahh
[11:09:13 AM] RS8: so im safe this time
[11:09:18 AM] Abel Aleman: makes sense
[11:09:21 AM] RS8: yep
[11:10:09 AM] Abel Aleman: sorry taking awhile, only prob i have is that also lookin at an NA account right now'
[11:10:23 AM] Abel Aleman: 1556 elo for $60
[11:10:30 AM] Abel Aleman: less elo but NA so thinkin
[11:10:43 AM] RS8: well this is nearly 2.4
[11:10:50 AM] RS8: for 65 its ok^^
[11:11:00 AM] RS8: normally 100+ but i need money asap coz i got depts
[11:11:08 AM] Abel Aleman: debts* lol
[11:11:14 AM] RS8: ya my eng boken
[11:11:16 AM] RS8: broken
[11:11:47 AM] Abel Aleman: for 65 im down. and how exactly do i make sure i dont get scammed?
[11:12:06 AM] RS8: hmm im new to epicnpc but i have 19+ and 0 negatives on elitepvpers
[11:12:09 AM] RS8: and ebay 100%
[11:12:18 AM] RS8: im selling accs since 9 months always 2k elo+
[11:12:40 AM] Abel Aleman: you give Main email you said?
[11:12:59 AM] RS8: yes the account created with so only u can rule the acc
[11:13:34 AM] Abel Aleman: and could i change password to that email after? youll give security password?
[11:13:55 AM] RS8: yes not only the mail
[11:14:00 AM] RS8: ull get mail whole mail
[11:14:04 AM] RS8: its hotmail.de
[11:14:12 AM] RS8: password and secret answer from email
[11:14:28 AM] Abel Aleman: kk
[11:14:32 AM] RS8: i always give all
[11:15:03 AM] Abel Aleman: sounds legit, only one way to find out
[11:15:15 AM] Abel Aleman: you got deal, im in paypal
[11:15:23 AM] RS8: yea but before u send money
[11:15:27 AM] RS8: i wanna see u sending as gift
[11:15:31 AM] Abel Aleman: i will
[11:15:34 AM] RS8: screenshare with skype or teamviewer
[11:16:13 AM] *** Call to RS8 ***
[11:16:30 AM] Abel Aleman: there?
[11:17:18 AM] RS8: ya
[11:17:21 AM] RS8: [email protected]
[11:17:27 AM] RS8: before u send press on gift
[11:18:00 AM] RS8: go on personal
[11:18:14 AM] RS8: yea there
[11:18:27 AM] RS8: euros
[11:19:37 AM] Abel Aleman: i thought it was 65 dollrs?
[11:19:42 AM] RS8: u said 80
[11:19:45 AM] RS8: i said euros
[11:19:47 AM] RS8: u said dollar
[11:19:53 AM] RS8: so u said 80 dollars are 65€
[11:19:55 AM] RS8: and i said ok^^
[11:19:56 AM] Abel Aleman: -__________________-
[11:19:58 AM] Abel Aleman: lol
[11:20:05 AM] RS8: how much euro are 65 dollar
[11:20:31 AM] RS8: i got 40 debts so i would take 53 € too...
[11:20:35 AM] Abel Aleman: 53
[11:20:40 AM] Abel Aleman: aight ill change
[11:20:43 AM] RS8: mang
[11:20:47 AM] RS8: just so chep
[11:20:48 AM] RS8: cheap
[11:21:06 AM] Abel Aleman: ill give 5, for niceness
[11:21:11 AM] Abel Aleman: 55
[11:21:14 AM] RS8: thanks
[11:22:12 AM] Abel Aleman: rdy?
[11:22:16 AM] RS8: yes
[11:23:01 AM] RS8: id : world876 pw: orange3333 mail : [email protected] pw: orange 3333 sa: baum
[11:23:03 AM] *** Call ended, duration 06:50 ***
[11:25:08 AM] Abel Aleman: ? not letting me sign in
[11:30:09 AM] Abel Aleman: YO
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Other proof:
Additional Information
######################
Did you do any background searching before the transaction? NOT REALLY
Have you traded with this person before? NO
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? FIRST ONE, GREAT EXPERIENCE -____-
