Scammed 5B from Elsword

[KennyPham1998]

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Information
Date the problem began: 9/20/2021 4:30pm
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Other information: I do not have their exact discord details because they are constantly changing their name

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-s-ed-22-1b-5b-in-stock-only-paypal.2054666/
Approximate value of property: $110 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
I made thread selling 10b ed and the buyer want buy it all. I was willing to do 5b first then he would send the money since he had some dodgy feedback being accused of being a scammer a few times and 9 feedback wasnt alot to me. I said for him to reply to my thread just to make sure he was quittinglol but he pmd instead. So I sent 5b and after that deleted me and the messages were deleted also but I have video footage of him just leaving and he changed his discord name with nitro a few times. The fact that he isnt banned with the amount of scam accusations is very strange. I do not expect my money back because 5b worth of ed is nothing to me compared to this broke person but he needs to be banned. Not sure how to retrieve the messages he sent me but if anyone knows I will do that immediately.

 

[quittinglol]

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-quittinglol.2161300/#post-8173932

This gotta be a joke. LOOL. So, you're telling me I scammed you but all I said was "Sup", I was going to ask if you can reserve the ed for me since I saw how new your post was, and how cheap it was too but you never responded? Like, I'm looking and this is your first post, no reviews or anything. I don't use discord anymore for deals because I have been impersonated or whatever, no idea how people fall for it. You should ask me on the site to CONFIRM, if this is me and I will respond. Also, how do I know this isn't fake and you're just trading to some naked character? Like, that guy looks naked, how do you fall for that? So this gotta be a joke because I do my deals ONLY on epicnpc messages not discord anymore. Unless, I put my discord on the page of a thread.

 

[KennyPham1998]

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Ok show me all your characters on your elsword account I bet you will pull up with some new account or alt and on top of that your discord realistically I expect you to make some excuse about this. This guy is a real piece of **** lmao why would I randomly just defame someone. You have been accused multiple times but you know you can keep the 5b that you gotta scam off of not buy. Check out the timestamps before you talk.

 

[quittinglol]

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-quittinglol.2161300/#post-8173932

I don't need to, and I said the post was new so scammers and impersonators would come all the time. I just don't get why you would think a "Sup" is confirmation? A confirmation is when the person saids HEY THIS IS MY DISCORD ***** and such. Like, bro this gotta be a joke how do you fall for it? Or is this fake?
And, there's no messages you said it's deleted and such? Why not record it all and plus, like I said I don't use discord anymore because of impersonation.

 

[KennyPham1998]

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impersonation but you literally replied to me with that exact same name, if u dont want to provide your discord or characters in your account it says everything for me which you seem frantic to give. the fact that you didnt reply to my msg saying you scammed me in the pm but replying to this thread pretty much gives it away you used discord. you said you use pms to reply right? all good lets just wait for the results

 

[quittinglol]

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-quittinglol.2161300/#post-8173932

What name? And I'm only going to show the admins my discord, and characters. Also, this is Real Money Trade why would I show and then risk getting banned? You're not making any sense. I would only tell it on discord or a PM of ONE of my characters. So showing my WHOLE account is just asking me to get banned. AND EVERYONE USES DISCORD??? I HAVE A DISCORD, but I wouldn't use it ever since the last impersonation. ALSO, I have to reply to this? This is a dispute, wtf lol. And, I said I have to CONFIRM FULLY ON THE WEBSITE. A "SUP" ISN'T A CONFIRMATION LOOL? How do you fall for this forreal? YOUR POST WAS 20 MINUTES OLD????

 

[Angel]

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Sup does not prove anything, you should ask him a clear sentence that he is the one who is dealing with you on discord. I am sorry there is nothing that can be done since the scammer using a discord nitro and has already changed a name multiple times. Discord is easy to impersonate so this is a primary reason why we decided to stop review discord scams. What is incredible here and also in most other disputes is why did you return on discord when you already were able to contact a member here and he responded. I can't find anything special on discord except that can cost you money and nerves and i can't wait for the day when discord will be permanently terminated on this website.

Please next time use a website to make deals and not discord as he is not the right place for this.

Moving this dispute to the off-site scammer's forum