Scam Accusation

[HDN]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Information
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Purchase Date: 07/16/2022
Date the problem began: 07/17/2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Biomedic (epicnpc) Mercy (discord)
Your Instant Messenger ID: HDN (epicnpc) HDNSELLER (discord)

Other information: Discord nickname of biomedic Mercy#1006, also he has a message in epicnpc. He got block because of trash talking me in discord. I'm feeling he wants to take everything from me because i'm new to the server/selling


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/gladiator-high-gear-character-mage-tower-accounts-hdn-store.2271034/
Approximate value of property: $280.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about? Biomedic refunds the payment in paypal because of him getting banned.

Other details / notes: The account of the character have never been banned before, only got banned after the character transfer. I advise him every time about the ban and he also accept it.


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

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Other proof: He only refounds because he wanted to play in my shaman account, also he wanted the region change while he plays in the account meanwhile he refounds because i said there's no guarantee of region changing and his new account got banned.


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? No
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Sold a character
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

To be clear this is the chain of events and the version that I provided PayPal:

Paid for Priest transfer to fresh account on PayPal July 18 before I slept.
Fresh account was banned on July 18 at 5:09am.
Main account that the character was transferred from was also banned (not my account).

No time spent on account.
Seller initially said he would compensate, but then changed his tune.

Screens showed by seller are deceptive and not the full story. I encourage a full video of logs.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

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[EpicNPC CM]

Please post images of ban reason/ticket

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Doesn’t make sense because many other sellers still able to sell their wow accounts.
This seller offers illicit activities like name and region changes on forums.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Screenshots of scam seller refunding everything on the account - probably initiated the ticket for recall and refund a few days ago.

These just came through and got authorised by GM.

 

[HDN]

This video shows that the R$ 70,00BRL is not getting reversal

The owner was selling a priest and a paladin with me, which is still posted with me, but when he sold the priest he tried to move his paladin to wow 2 account and when he got banned on the paladin, he retrieve the money of this paladin, but not of the priest, if you look at the dates which is showing in the following image

Here shows the customer asking me to buy everything for him.

You still need to know that my time is BRT and his time is GMT

there is 11:00 hours difference between, his print screen shows exactly the time difference, so when he posted the 3:55 AM means its 2:55 PM for me.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Has paypal made a decision on the dispute?

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Nope, not yet @EpicNPC CM

 

[HDN]

Not yet, I recieve my chance to answer the paypal yesterday

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Update once paypal makes a decision

 

[HDN]

Update once paypal makes a decision

they choose to refund the money back to him

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Has anyone contacted support about the ban?

 

[HDN]

I don't have his account anymore, I just transfer and bought the game for him in his account

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Lol, the account is closed - which means you can't make a ticket with that account anyways.

Full closure.

A ticket needs to be made from any other account - @HDN you can try making a ticket from your own account.

 

[HDN]

You can, I did it some days ago

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

The onus is on you as the seller to do this. I can provide info for you to logon and do the unban.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Someone needs to contact support and post what happens here.

 

[biomedic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

I'm not going to be doing it @HDN - if you can recover the account - payment will go through from my side once again. If you want to discuss you know my Discord!

 

[HDN]

I can't do it @EpicNPC CM because the account is not mine, he changed the password.
I will not talk to you nowhere else but here @biomedic

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

The onus is on you as the seller to do this. I can provide info for you to logon and do the unban.

I have said several times I will provide you the account details - you are the seller mate... I'm not going to do your job for you.

You just want to take the money while I do all the work to unban your account???

 

[HDN]

I have said several times I will provide you the account details - you are the seller mate... I'm not going to do your job for you.

You just want to take the money while I do all the work to unban your account???

Someone needs to contact, I don't have the password and I will not talk to you in private conversation

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

good luck

 

[HDN]

The only one that can do the account recovery is you, it will be done by your computer IP, with your ID, it's safer doing it, because the account was banned with your ID, if i try to unban with my IP they will know.

 

[HDN]

What i can do is help you with material, like ID or something.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

This is a public post, you want to post your friends ID publically?

Fine - if you insist - write me specific instructions on what to say and do for the unban.

we can use the same method as your friend to keep it consistent

 

[HDN]

Please read what i'm typing, you only need to open ticket like the images i did, type the same thing, not difficult, right ?
I will say again, there is no method guaranteed to unban, it's a chance, a high chance but no guaranteed.

 

[biomedic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Please read what i'm typing, you only need to open ticket like the images i did, type the same thing, not difficult, right ?
I will say again, there is no method guaranteed to unban, it's a chance, a high chance but no guaranteed.

What images?

That's a discord chat of you and your friend - if you can show the ticket that would be good?

 

[HDN]

Follow what I said before the same way my customer did.
I will not show private messages of my customers.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Sorry - I'm not going to do it.

You're just rude and unhelpful even though I'm offering to do your job for you.



If you refuse to do it then this is over.

 

[HDN]

Sorry - I'm not going to do it.

You're just rude and unhelpful even though I'm offering to do your job for you.



If you refuse to do it then this is over.

@EpicNPC CM I don't have the account, I can't because of IP and he refuse to open ticket.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

@EpicNPC CM I don't have the account, I can't because of IP and he refuse to open ticket.

1. Can't because of what IP? I never even got to play.
2. I have told you multiple times I will give you password.

 

[HDN]

You are typing it only because you don't want to do and show that you are scaming me

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@biomedic please give the password to HDN via PM on epicnpc

@HDN once you receive the password please contact support

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

Okay so - turns out providing password doesn't actually do anything.

This screenshot is of the website login at battlenet....

Rather, the only way to make a ticket is here...

https://us.battle.net/support/en/help/product/services/316/979/solution

And press Still need help -> contact us.

Which is what I said HDN the seller could have done without access to the account.

I've PM'd him now regardless so let's try to solve this.

 

[HDN]

@biomedic please give the password to HDN via PM on epicnpc

@HDN once you receive the password please contact support

@EpicNPC CM He is types too much, but he always hide something, always cut his print screens to not show everything, but you can check that he didn't give me the account and wanted to discuss things about this dispute anywhere but here is not I what I want.

 

[biomedic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

@biomedic please give the password to HDN via PM on epicnpc

@HDN once you receive the password please contact support

I PM'd you, happy to take a video/do it live on Discord but not for this Brazillian scammer who has the IQ of 1.

 

[HDN]

I PM'd you, happy to take a video/do it live on Discord but not for this Brazillian scammer who has the IQ of 1.

I did it for you

 

[biomedic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

You’re actually stupid - I’m talking about taking a video of the account being banned and not being able to login, not our discord convo…………….

holy mackerel you have a brain the size of a peanut.

 

[HDN]

You’re actually stupid - I’m talking about taking a video of the account being banned and not being able to login, not our discord convo…………….

holy mackerel you have a brain the size of a peanut.

The admin told you to do ONE THING which is give me the account in PM here and you didn't why are you talking like this ?

 

[EpicNPC CM]

One of you needs to manage to contact support or else this cant move forward. It doesn't matter who.

 

[HDN]

One of you needs to manage to contact support or else this cant move forward. It doesn't matter who.

He says that he can't with fake print screens, and I can't log in because I don't have the account

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

He says that he can't with fake print screens, and I can't log in because I don't have the account

I can’t give you the password because I can’t login to change the password, because the account is closed.

I can’t make a ticket, because I can’t login, because the account is closed.

Btw I did PM you and you didn’t respond. A week ago. Because you’re dumb as f.

 

[HDN]

You’re honestly just stupid as f. I can’t give you the password because I can’t login to change the password, because the account is closed.

I can’t make a ticket, because I can’t login, because the account is closed.

Btw I did PM you and you didn’t respond. A week ago. Because you’re dumb as f.

contact the support

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Any update?

 

[HDN]

Any update?

No, he doesn't want to give me the account or contact the support.

 

[biomedic]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2277137

No, he doesn't want to give me the account or contact the support.

I can’t give you the password because I can’t login to change the password, because the account is closed.

I can’t make a ticket, because I can’t login, because the account is closed.

So it's same if you or I make the ticket, since I can't login.

Make the ticket yourself.

You are the seller.

 

[HDN]

I can't make a ticket without the account, and you are llying about the account is closed, I did show one customer that have the same problem and it's not closed, but i can't log in