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Feedback in question: https://www.epicnpc.com/reports/40253/
I have received false feedback after the seller got angry because I refused his offer. His offer was not within my budget and conditions, and thus I politely refused. To my surprise, I have received negative feedback from him that states I 'wasted' his time. Negotiation is part of trading and thus should not be considered a waste of time. Not to mention, we have never even agreed on the price.

Please see attached a screenshot that further proves the seller's intention to just get back on me and not really leave feedback that would reflect reality.
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I would be willing to share the rest of the conversation to prove my point, but the seller got really aggressive in the post itself, when I attached the screenshot above.

I would appreciate assistance in this matter.

Cheers.
 
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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
This buyer did waste my time he asked me to do photos of my account, Which I gladly shared with him on Discord. Then He asked me the price of the account. Which I said was around 14 sterling. He told that was not good enough. So again I dropped the price to 9.00 he again said that was not good enough so I dropped it again to 8.99 which is a price of a sub. I offered wise because we are both from the UK. He told that was not good enough for him so I made a PayPal account just to suit his demands for payment. Then he goes silent and does not reply to my messages are you still interested in my account?.
Then I leave honest feedback and accurate information about my dealing with him. Then I get told I'm slandering his name and feedback is false. This person then copies a private conversation which is private. I ask him to remove this comment because it goes against the guidelines of discord and UK privacy law which I state to him. He then goes on to say it is false and I'm aggressive in my manner . False feedback is not the case here it's down to the privacy and security of a person's right to expect his or her conversation to remain private.Then the allegations of slandering comes into account as I already stated on the forum post it's not because I didn't post a screenshot of the conversation .I didn't break privacy laws or slander his name .
 
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I told him if you give the price of a sub you can have the account within 20 minutes and wise was then offered because of fees PayPal would charge me for withdrawal to my account and wise is cheaper and faster.
 
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I moved heaven and earth for this buyer because I needed to sell my account quickly
 
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This buyer basically wants to see content for free without having to pay for a sub .
 
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Let me tell you things the way they really are. I have made a post here on EpicNPC to buy an account. I have clearly stated my conditions, my preferred method of payment (PayPal, which is a golden standard on this site), etc.

Please note anything more expensive than monthly subscription (i.e., $10) would kind of defeat the whole purpose. I want to buy an account that has been abandoned for whichever reason, be it not enough time, money, it was secondary account, or you just did not like the game. This way, you can at least get a couple of bucks back.

Would pay by PayPal.


Andson11 then contacted me to say that he had an account he would have liked to offer me. At this stage, he only said it had one level 80 and that it was ready immediately. There is no post here that he would link to, no price, nothing. So I asked him for basic info about the account and some screenshots-a completely normal procedure. I was not going to agree to buy something I had never seen, let alone from a person with zero seller feedback.

He gave some basic info (there were some details he "thought" were right) and stated his price range of 15-30 (which was outside my stated budget). Based on that very sketchy information, I said I would be willing to pay 10 dollars (btw my only actual offer that had failed to materialise throughout our whole conversation) if he was able to produce screenshots that would back up the information he provided so far.

He sent 4 low-quality mobile photos of a monitor (not screenshots) which showed nothing but the looks of 4 characters on the character selection screen. He stated that he couldn't send any more here and wanted to switch to Discord (go figure why). He offered to sell it for 13 pounds (i.e., 16 dollars, and still not in my stated budget).

At this stage, I have raised my concerns about his actual ownership of the account, given his unwillingness to post proper screenshots here on EpicNPC, and once again politely reminded him of my conditions that were clearly stated from the very beginning.

He replied that he was indeed the original owner and that he had sent me a discord request. The conversation so far is on EpicNPC and I would be more than willing to share it in its entirety to prove my point.

Hereafter, we switched to Discord. Here he posted more mobile photos (again, not actual screenshots) that did back up some of the info he provided, but not all. He then immediately started to pressure me for a deal (we did not at any point agree on a price) and a bank transfer via Wise (I clearly stated I would use PayPal for security reasons). He even sent his name, address, and bank details without me ever asking for them or let alone agreeing to any of his offers.

He lowered the price to 9 pounds (11.24 dollars, so still outside the budget stated initially) and at first refused PayPal, stating fees he would have to pay. Without any response from me to that offer (I can only assume he thought I would agree), he went to make a PayPal account (now he states that he made it only for me-firstly, I did not agree to any of his offers, so why would you go ahead with making a PayPal account for the sake of one deal that you did not even make? Not to mention the only feedback he has ever received on EpicNPC states he did pay by PayPal, so he had to have it at some point anyway. And it only takes 10 minutes to make anyway.)

I got back to him clearly and politely stating my reasons for refusing his offer and said that if 9 pounds is the lowest he is willing to go, I would understand if he were to look for a different buyer.

At this point, he got quite aggressive and impolite, and I thus considered negotiations to be terminated. He then went here to leave false feedback, which is a clear attempt to get back at me for refusing his offer.

His whole argument about wasting time lacks any merit-I have a full-time job and other real life commitments, so I cannot check EpicNPC nor Discord constantly. That being said, I have always replied to all of his correspondence within 24 hours. The whole affair took less than five days. I would understand if I promised the seller to buy his account and then waited a week to get back to him, saying I would not buy it, as a waste of time. But this? If I were to leave negative feedback for every potential buyer who then refused my offer or simply stopped responding, I would have to give out hundreds of them. That is not how trading works—negotiation is part of it, and hardly a waste of time.

The only time being wasted at this point is mine and that of the staff here at EpicNPC. The fact that andson11 does not take no for an answer does not entitle him to leave false feedback. He is clearly new to selling, but that does not excuse him from inappropriate behaviour, impoliteness, and finally an attempt to bully me into a deal.

I am more than happy to share the whole Discord conversation as well, as I have nothing to hide and it would provide further proof of the seller's bullsh*t. I would have included it already if it were not for the sellers' threats of legal consequences of doing so (which I genuinely doubt and if I am given the green light by staff here I will do so).

Cheers.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
You also asked me to list my account and send you a link which I did and gave screenshots that would show you the account is real I even said I was the original owner .You think this it's BS what I tell you about privacy laws in the uk.In London was a case very similar to what you are claiming about slander and false reporting of information.The seller won the case and was awarded over 1 million in damages.
 
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Clearly I'm new to selling what makes you think that ?when in fact I trade forex and stocks everyday for my job .The only time you can make a statement like that is when you personally know a person.But you don't know anything about me . It's kind of being hypocritical. You must also understand I have a full-time job as well but that does not stop me from replying to someone who is doing all they can to please the demands
 
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I had PayPal over 7 years ago under a different name .I had to register for this service again because he didn't want to do wise.At the end of the day I'm not wasting time I gave honest feedback and standby my words because he did waste my time and effort.
 
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Also I make this clear I don't grant this person written permission to release a private conversation. Under UK law this stand to account any breach of this will follow with legal action taken against any said person or company which hold this trade mark of epicnpc
 
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Privacy laws do stand up in a court of law and you can be sued for breaching of this .
 
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You have 5 days from today to remove any private conversation failure to comply with this will see next steps of legal action taken against said persons or company trading under epicnpc.
 
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After the latest comments from andson11, I do not think I need to explain what kind of person I am dealing with here. I would just like to state that his statement "You also asked me to list my account and send you a link which I did and gave screenshots that would show you the account is real I even said I was the original owner" is false and I can prove so just from a conversation here on EpicNPC. I only asked whether his account is listed here, and if so, if he could provide a link. I can see that he did list the account in question later, but he never linked it in any of our correspondence. And those screenshots (they are not actual screenshots) hardly prove whether the account is indeed in his possession, but that was not an issue I brought up. This whole privacy thing is getting a bit ridiculous. I have obscured his Discord tag. I did not mention any of his personal details. I only used that particular screenshot to prove that his statements and feedback are not based on reality and are false.

Cheers.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
You stated I never linked you what the account had in it and never provided you screenshots?Are you 100% sure this statement.I clearly did link you what the account had on it and even provide you a guide price that I was hoping for to start with but as I know in negotiations that price is always changing.
 

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English, do you speak it (or at least understand it)? If you do, then you are just twisting facts. You have listed the account here on Wednesday: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/starter-account-1-level-80.2231307/#post-8355109. Previously, you have stated that I asked you to do that, which I did not. You have never provided a link to that listing anyway. Also, there is a difference between screenshots and photos of a monitor. Mods, can we get this done and over? I have provided enough evidence of this guy being vicious, trying to just get back at me for not accepting his offer, which did not meet my conditions. Normally, that would be completely normal and we would just walk our separate ways. But andson11 is clearly "special", as his threats of legal action demonstrate.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
Do I speak English or understand it? You really made a statement like this and that I'm special.??? Be very careful about your reply
 
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I am done arguing with you. Also, if you think I have not noticed you have deleted parts of the Discord conversation, you are very much mistaken.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
Because statements like that which you have just said about can be deemed harassment and reported not just to staff or mods here but to the police.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-andson11.2554370/page-2
It been resolved in my eyes.I have moved on and so should you .Let it be in the past .
 
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