Recalled Account, Sold by KHAccounts.net, on 20/2/2012

[xffffa]

Hello,
I'm sorry my first post on this website has to be about this particular subject, but I can't see any other means to get the seller's attention regarding this particular matter.


Information
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Date that scamming took place: 6/5/2012
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: khaccsupport
Your Instant Messenger ID: splitneo
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: KHAccounts.net
Other information: In short, on Feb 20 I've bought an account from KH, on May 6th account got recalled by OO, Shane/KHAccounts was made aware of what was going on the same day it happened, he then confirmed what happened and told me the OO recalled it because he wanted to get back to playing, and he couldn't do anything because it's been 3 months since he got the acct from the OO, I had it for a little more than 60 days.

Scam Information
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What was scammed?

A world of warcraft subscription containing a Legendary LVL 85 Troll Mage.

Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...twilight-harbinger-|-pureblood-fire-hawk.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $1850.00 USD

Was a middleman used? No.
Describe how you were scammed: OO Recalled Account.

Other details / notes:
While I admit his website shows his 30 days recall police, I don't think this is right, I've bought the account in the end - I'm not renting it or leasing it.
When confronted regarding this matter by me, KH acknowledged that this was a screwed up situation and that he would try to make it up for me somehow, the truth is, I've been trying to contact him for a week now to try and remedy the situation, find an alternative, but I'm feeling I'm being avoided (and I know he is around, because of his posts here and his website keeps updating new accounts, some even sold).
2 days before the recall happened, I've bought another account from him, which is fine so far, but now I'm afraid it might be recalled too.
I'm a reasonable person, I believe this should be easy to work out, I just can't get a hold of the guy.


Proof
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Chat Logs:

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19:04:48 ne0: Hey, Shane?
Could not send because khaccsupport is not available. (19:04:48)
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19:50:27 ne0: Hey?
19:50:37 ne0: you around? I just sent you an email
20:21:32 ne0: there you go
20:21:38 ne0: char got recalled: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Kryobearr/simple
20:22:24 ne0: dude even created another mage with his old name just not to use the same
20:29:28 ne0: apparently they reclaimed a lot of accounts didn't they, I see grumpebear is back too
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20:51:12 Shane (KH Accounts): What was the name on the account?
20:51:34 ne0: David XXXX
20:54:49 Shane (KH Accounts): Well, I just put an e-mail into him now.
20:55:25 Shane (KH Accounts): See what he comes back with.
20:59:55 ne0: you sold grumpebear too didn't you
20:59:59 Shane (KH Accounts): yup
21:00:05 Shane (KH Accounts): both have been reset
21:00:12 Shane (KH Accounts): trying to figure out what is going on
21:00:26 ne0: both played yesterday, so yeah, I'm sure it was a recall
21:00:29 ne0: and you know what sucks?
21:00:41 ne0: I was half way on the bnet name change
21:00:52 Shane (KH Accounts): those are useless and do not work
21:00:57 Shane (KH Accounts): still leaves a paper trail
21:01:01 ne0: well yeah
21:01:04 Shane (KH Accounts): that the OO can reversve everything
21:01:06 ne0: but I wanted to merge with another
21:01:18 Shane (KH Accounts): and it would be unmerged and your current account would have been banned
21:01:24 Shane (KH Accounts): trust me, just saw it happen yesterday
21:01:43 ne0: well, doesn't matter now anyways, I left the dudes thinking it's their fault
21:01:53 ne0: I thought it was at first
21:02:03 ne0: but then I noticed the guy recalled it and was playing
21:04:37 ne0: what makes me even more pissed is that I had uped the gear on this, was actually running a core with it
21:04:46 ne0: won't be able to raid tomorrow most likely, or ever, who knows
21:07:10 Shane (KH Accounts): I will let you know when I know something more.
21:09:35 ne0: yeah, thanks :\
21:33:21 Shane (KH Accounts): Yup, they are all recalling their accounts
21:33:36 ne0: yeah but "why"
21:33:39 Shane (KH Accounts): they waited till after my 30 day warranty was up so as to protect me under my warranty
21:33:54 Shane (KH Accounts): I just spoke with their GM on Mumble (Grumpe)
21:34:04 Shane (KH Accounts): they wanted their accounts back
21:34:12 ne0: and what about the money
21:34:14 Shane (KH Accounts): so, I have about $10000 in recalls incoming
21:34:19 Shane (KH Accounts): been 90 days
21:34:29 Shane (KH Accounts): nothing my bank can do
21:34:44 ne0: feb 20 for me
21:34:59 Shane (KH Accounts): purchased at the very start of Feb
21:35:11 Shane (KH Accounts): they wait till the 90 days were up
21:35:46 ne0: yeah, but it hasn't been 90 days
21:35:56 ne0: perhaps for you
21:36:01 Shane (KH Accounts): for me it has
21:36:06 Shane (KH Accounts): so I cannot get my funds back
21:36:21 ne0: so… what do I do...
21:37:25 Shane (KH Accounts): well, my warranty explicitly states that you are covered for 30 days against recalls and I did attempt to help. But, this is a really jacked up situation. I guess when you are good to buy another account, I will give you a VERY large discount.
21:37:28 ne0: even tho they "protected" you, or your warranty, it's… a scam
21:37:29 Shane (KH Accounts): That is the best I can do right now.
21:37:47 Shane (KH Accounts): I am well aware that it is morally screwed up.
21:38:33 ne0: you do understand that I paid you 1800 for that, it's not chump change
21:39:08 Shane (KH Accounts): I am well aware. But, that is the risk of buying accounts. I cannot control things anymore than you can.
21:39:29 Shane (KH Accounts): I have to get back to studying to finals here, but I will try to find a way to make this right.
21:39:33 ne0: well, do you have this dude's ID?
21:39:52 Shane (KH Accounts): Won't do any good. The account will just go into a notary lock.
21:39:57 Shane (KH Accounts): And then he will get it back.
21:39:58 ne0: I can **** him up
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01:49:57 ne0: :/
01:55:47 ne0: cam't you like, press charges against these idiots?
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04:44:29 ne0: the guy did transfer again: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Kryobearr/simple
04:44:30 Shane (KH Accounts) (Autoreply): If you are interested in buying or selling an account, please leave a DETAILED message here. Do not simply say "Hi/Hello" as that will not elicit a response back.
04:44:32 ne0: got knows where
04:44:36 ne0: god*
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04:45:27 ne0: both of his mages are non existant now, even the low level heirloom one that was a placeholder for his nickname
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07:53:57 ne0: now grumpebear's account seems gone too
07:53:57 Shane (KH Accounts) (Autoreply): If you are interested in buying or selling an account, please leave a DETAILED message here. Do not simply say "Hi/Hello" as that will not elicit a response back.
07:54:09 ne0: did they tell you anything else?
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17:57:58 ne0: Hey… are you around?
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20:22:55 ne0: shane?
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10:10:02 ne0: Hey Shane? perhaps I found a way to make things right… do you have any locked accounts or whatever, that you don't have the ID for or something? I can try to do something here and if it works… we call it even
10:10:02 Shane (KH Accounts) (Autoreply): If you are interested in buying or selling an account, please leave a DETAILED message here. Do not simply say "Hi/Hello" as that will not elicit a response back.
10:10:14 ne0: this way no one loses money I guess, the account is gone anyways
10:11:01 ne0: even tho I understand you've been scammed by them and you cover "30 days" there's no way I'm losing 1400 or whatever like that… it's just too much money to let it be you know
10:11:06 ne0: anyways, let me know once you're around
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23:46:26 ne0: Hey man… you're hard to get
23:52:43 ne0: anyways… I will open up a claim on paypal I guess, then we can try to work out something there, I really want to work this out, but your lack of response kinda sucks
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Pictures/Screenshots:

Recall Email from Blizz (for extra security - or so I've thought - I had the Char transferred to another account, hence why I got the email stating the "unauthorized transfer"):

Paypal money request from KH:

Paypal Payment:

Other proof:
I can't think of anything else that is needed, but in case I missed something, let me know and I will post up right away.

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? Using the website, 0.

Thank You.

 

[gman]

KHAccounts.net has been notified.

 

[Logical Nonsense]

A quote from KHAccounts.net on a very recent thread

"There are plenty of ways to make sure that an Original Owner can never take back an account. If the new owner did not spend the time researching how to protect his investment, I fail to see how that is Virtua's problem.

I personally feel that every person that buys an account should do their research on how to protect their accounts from recalls and none of this crap would happen.

Sidney812 can attest to a method that I have to ensure that a recall will never happen and that it works 100%.

Again, this is one of those things that needs to be stated as making someone pay the price for a year old account sale is utter ridiculous.

As for the not being directly involved, any warranty clause issue, such as this, directly involves anyone that offers a warranty, such as myself.

Best of luck with a resolution."


​So why wasn't this 100% method used by KHA in this case?

---------- Post added 05-14-2012 at 08:41 AM ----------

also, Xfffaa, you are within the time frame needed to do a bank recall if you need to

 

[MaskedArmory]

I do apologize, but I have been in the midst of finals and have been only at my computer for short periods of time.

The "100% no-recall" method was brought to my attention only about a month ago. I am not going to go back and let every single person I sold an account to know about it because I frankly do not have that kind of time.

Anyways, the account was recalled, yes. The Original Owner recalled the account and had absolutely no qualms about it.

Once I had found out about this, I told the OP that I would work with them on a new account purchase whenever they wanted. The OP apparently was not satisfied with that given the expense of the account.

So, it has been almost 3 months since the account was sold (sold on 2/20 and recalled on 5/6) and I am responsible for the security of the account still? If after the almost 3 months, you have not found a way to secure the account, I am really failing to see how this is my fault.

It is just like my warranty states --

We cover all of our accounts for a 30 day period. In our experience, that is when 99% of recalls happen. After the 30 day period, we will still assist you in getting the account back (if you did not resell or trade it - posting it for sale or trade voids the warranty as well), but no compensation will be given.

During the coverage period of 30 days, if we come to the conclusion that a recall has occurred, you will be given a store credit for the amount paid for the account. We do not give cash refunds.


If for any reason we find out that the account was not recalled or that you were negligible with the account, no compensation or retrieval assistance will be provided.

People see my warranty when they purchase things, but then if/when something goes wrong, they get angry. What is the point of the warranty if it does not cover the seller?

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On a completely unrelated note, SplitNeo, hit me up on AIM and I will give you the method to secure the other account you purchased from me to ensure it is never recalled.

Regards,

Shane

 

[xffffa]

I do apologize, but I have been in the midst of finals and have been only at my computer for short periods of time.

The "100% no-recall" method was brought to my attention only about a month ago. I am not going to go back and let every single person I sold an account to know about it because I frankly do not have that kind of time.

Anyways, the account was recalled, yes. The Original Owner recalled the account and had absolutely no qualms about it.

Once I had found out about this, I told the OP that I would work with them on a new account purchase whenever they wanted. The OP apparently was not satisfied with that given the expense of the account.

So, it has been almost 3 months since the account was sold (sold on 2/20 and recalled on 5/6) and I am responsible for the security of the account still? If after the almost 3 months, you have not found a way to secure the account, I am really failing to see how this is my fault.

It is just like my warranty states --



People see my warranty when they purchase things, but then if/when something goes wrong, they get angry. What is the point of the warranty if it does not cover the seller?

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On a completely unrelated note, SplitNeo, hit me up on AIM and I will give you the method to secure the other account you purchased from me to ensure it is never recalled.

Regards,

Shane

Now we're being silly aren't we.
"I told the OP that I would work with them on a new account purchase whenever they wanted" didn't I hit you up the whole week regarding this matter, even offered to try and recover a lost account to make things easier?
It's even on the log I posted up here.

I'm sorry Shane, but this is exactly why we pay brokers, so we don't have to worry about this kind of crap you know. I'm sure I am not alone on this since you mentioned other accounts got recalled, but this isn't a very smart business practice, claim the buyer didn't "secure the account".

What's your secure method? Transfer it up and then delete the other account by maling privacy and saying you don't agree with the ToU? Newsflash, that was done on the char that got recalled.

I'm not even asking for a full refund, I'm being nice to you, while I could just call up my credit card and tell them to charge back.

Pay attention to this:

21:07:10 Shane (KH Accounts): I will let you know when I know something more.
21:09:35 ne0: yeah, thanks :\
21:33:21 Shane (KH Accounts): Yup, they are all recalling their accounts
21:33:36 ne0: yeah but "why"
21:33:39 Shane (KH Accounts): they waited till after my 30 day warranty was up so as to protect me under my warranty
21:33:54 Shane (KH Accounts): I just spoke with their GM on Mumble (Grumpe)
21:34:04 Shane (KH Accounts): they wanted their accounts back
21:34:12 ne0: and what about the money
21:34:14 Shane (KH Accounts): so, I have about $10000 in recalls incoming
21:34:19 Shane (KH Accounts): been 90 days
21:34:29 Shane (KH Accounts): nothing my bank can do
21:34:44 ne0: feb 20 for me
21:34:59 Shane (KH Accounts): purchased at the very start of Feb
21:35:11 Shane (KH Accounts): they wait till the 90 days were up
21:35:46 ne0: yeah, but it hasn't been 90 days
21:35:56 ne0: perhaps for you
21:36:01 Shane (KH Accounts): for me it has
21:36:06 Shane (KH Accounts): so I cannot get my funds back
21:36:21 ne0: so… what do I do...
21:37:25 Shane (KH Accounts): well, my warranty explicitly states that you are covered for 30 days against recalls and I did attempt to help. But, this is a really jacked up situation. I guess when you are good to buy another account, I will give you a VERY large discount.
21:37:28 ne0: even tho they "protected" you, or your warranty, it's… a scam

So... you got your money for the sale, they got the chars back, and the only one that lost something is the buyer? What stops them for doing this again? Or you for that matter, since you left this unharmed? What asures me that this wasn't a plot so you can just sell the mage again for another idiot in a couple months?

Again, I'm not asking for a full refund either, I wanted to work it out with another account or something perhaps?

Whatever works man, like I said, I'm trying to be reasonable, but if in a few days this doesn't get worked out, I will in fact call up my bank and make them charge this back.
And for these issues even if it's an intangible good Paypal will fight for their money, be sure of that.

 

[MaskedArmory]

Resolving this on AIM.

OP will post back when an agreement has been come to.

 

[EpicNPC]

I did not read beyond the first post since it seems it is being resolved. I will wait for further updates before commenting if I need to.

 

[LiquidSwordz36]

10 grand my balls shane, idc if I get banned for posting where I'm not "allowed" this site is falling apart and its people like you that get greedy and your business is just shady in general, your whole warranty system and the fact that you just admitted yeah they waited to recall to "protect me" so pretty much whoever can recall there account as long its outside your warranty period and you get off scott free. right. You aren't out to do good business with good people you're a greedy individual and karma is gonna get you eventually, you've been banned how many times now? with more chances than anyone I can think of off hand, if you didnt have "status(lol)" you would have been perma banned a long time ago, but for whatever reason you just keep getting chances when the things you do and the way you conduct yourself is blatantly wrong. Go ahead mike, delete this when you see it give me an infraction and ban me for posting where I shouldnt but thats why things like this go unnoticed and keep happening, people dont care enough to stand up for themselves and its gonna ruin this site and further destroy the community, people are just scamming left and right because there aren't any consequences for their actions. Oh ill compensate by giving you another account probably worth less than what you originally recieved from me, probably wont have an ID with it and it will just get "recalled" again 32 days later or whenever I need some money. SMH man.

 

[EpicNPC]

xffffa please update. If no update is given in 24 hrs, I will assume it was resolved.

KHAccount has been closed by his request, but this thread must still be resolved.

 

[xffffa]

Hi,
No it has not been resolved yet. We are trying to work out a discount on a new account, but nothing on his stock right now works for me. Also... since it's a discount I'd have to put in even more cash on this, so I'm analyzing what do I do.
Here are the logs of our latest convos since this thread emerged:

14:39:43 Shane (KH Accounts): I am willing to work a new account with you, but I am not going to give you a $1800 account free of charge, which is what you were asking for prior.
14:39:55 ne0: when dude
14:39:57 Shane (KH Accounts): I stated that when you were ready to get a new account, I would give you at cost.
14:39:59 ne0: I haven't said that
14:40:14 Shane (KH Accounts): I will dig through my logs later.
14:40:20 Shane (KH Accounts): Anyways, how do you want to resolve this?
14:40:25 Shane (KH Accounts): Because I want this off my plate.
14:40:30 Shane (KH Accounts): So I can focus on my studies.
14:40:31 ne0: the full log is on the trade, I haven't edited anything out
14:40:44 ne0: the thread sorry
14:41:31 Shane (KH Accounts): I have to go to a showing for a new home here, but leave me some options on how you want to resolve this and I will see what I can do when I get back around 1pm PST.
14:41:51 Shane (KH Accounts): House hunting + finals + moving is just running me nuts at the moment.
14:41:59 Shane (KH Accounts): So, my apologies for the lack of responses.
14:43:46 ne0: aha, well
14:44:03 ne0: I don't know, what kind of discounts you have in mind, what accounts would you have a good margin to give me
14:44:06 ne0: stuff like that you know
14:44:18 ne0: I don't want to impose anything to you, like, give me this or else blabla
14:44:43 Shane (KH Accounts): I would give you anything at cost that is below $1500.
14:44:51 Shane (KH Accounts): So, precisely what I paid for it is what you would get it for.
14:45:11 ne0: yeah but what is the cost
14:45:15 ne0: I would need to know
14:45:41 Shane (KH Accounts): Understood. So, leave me some account numbers and I will give you the cost paid when I get back.
Changed status to Idle (14:55:15)
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You have disconnected (10:36:07)
You have connected (10:36:18)
Changed status to Available (12:16:45)
12:23:49 ne0: Hey...
12:23:53 ne0: I've been checking your accounts
12:24:22 ne0: don't you have a legendary mage upcoming or something?
12:24:41 Shane (KH Accounts): I don't.
12:24:51 Shane (KH Accounts): You don't have to get an account right this second.
12:24:58 Shane (KH Accounts): You can wait for something new to come in.
12:25:58 ne0: yeah but I would like to solve this soonish, I need a toon to fill a spot here in the end
12:26:12 ne0: what can you do about these rogues you've got
12:26:52 Shane (KH Accounts): the $XXXX rogue is going to be sold Weds
12:27:07 ne0: and the other two
12:27:10 Shane (KH Accounts): the $XXXX one was $XXX
12:27:17 Shane (KH Accounts): the $XXXX one was $XXX
12:29:52 ne0: I see, ok. well I will wait around I think
12:30:20 ne0: do you have any accounts coming in later this week?
12:34:24 Shane (KH Accounts): I have nothing lined up. Things come in when they come in.
12:37:54 ne0: ok, I will think around and get back to you later I guess

I edited out the values because well, it's this guy business after all and I didn't want to leak his "margin", but for reference let's assume it's 50%, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt, taking as an example that if I were to get an account worth $1k, I'd have to rack up another $500, which would make the total amount spent on this $2350, for a $1k value account...

I will keep updating this thread as the situation develops, as I intend to get this settled before the weekend.

Thank You for your help Mike.

 

[Nesyla]

What's your secure method? Transfer it up and then delete the other account by maling privacy and saying you don't agree with the ToU? Newsflash, that was done on the char that got recalled.

I'm sorry if my message here is inappropriate as i have nothing to do with the scam issue, i however fail to see how you can get your data information deleted after contacting blizzard. They clearly stated that :

Please note that the deletion of your data will lead to the termination of your account and applicable services.

Therefore i do not understand how he was still able to re-claim the toon if every information regarding the account was deleted.

If you feel like this question shoulden't be here just delete it.

 

[EpicNPC]

xffffa buys account ($1850) from KHAccounts - feb 20th
account recalled - May 6th (76 days)
KHAccounts confirms OO recalled the account

21:33:39 Shane (KH Accounts): they waited till after my 30 day warranty was up so as to protect me under my warranty
21:33:54 Shane (KH Accounts): I just spoke with their GM on Mumble (Grumpe)
21:34:04 Shane (KH Accounts): they wanted their accounts back

Since this is not resolved yet, I'll chime in now.

In the other direction, if I honored all warranties at their word, sellers could just recall the day after a warranty expired and face no repercussion.

This is exactly what I had posted a few days ago and is basically happening here.

Why are they "protecting" you? are these your friends? Can you not see this is a straigh up scam you're involved in and actively participating in?

I would not accept any offer from KHaccount unless its for a 100% refund or an account of equal value because that is what you deserve.

Even though his account is currently closed, KHAccounts will be banned if this is not resolved in a fair manner.

 

[xffffa]

Hi,
Shane refunded me for a second account that I've got 2 days before the recall, while it's not a $1800 account (about $800 in the end), it's better than having to put more money to get yet another account. It's not optimal, but it's something.
The payment hasn't cleared yet, Paypal marked the clearance to the 18th, once it clears I will post here confirming.

Thanks everyone for your help on this case, this wouldn't have been "solved" if it didn't came public through this forum.

 

[Twizz]

Ok, in the end it's up yo you what your willing to except as compensaton. Just remember to post here on the 18th so we can close this up.

 

[Zoefken]

I said in the past this would happen again with this KH. And everyone told me to shut up. Well SUPRISE

 

[UnholySonata]

I said in the past this would happen again with this KH. And everyone told me to shut up. Well SUPRISE

Shut up.

 

[EpicNPC]

closing thread tomorrow as being resolved if there are no further updates.

 

[Zoefken]

Firstly i don't mind if you give me another infraction if that turns you on please do so.

So how much did KH pay for not getting banned? This is plainly ridiculous. This happend in the past and he did get banned. Than he got unbanned for god knows what reason. If you read his post he actualy said this is happening alot latly and alot of people are recalling there accounts. Gamepal used to do the same. Sell accounts and than recall them after there "safe period" was over. Now don't get me wrong but if you make a freaking living of buying and selling accounts you should also pay the consequences of this bussines. I don't see anyone buying a car to have it recalled 3 months after without getting the money back.

He is comming forward to a agreement of 800$ for a account that costed the OP 1800$. Are you kidding me? Thats the same as getting a VW in place of a Porsche ffs.

I said this would happen again and like some moronic people on this forum they laughd it away. If KH doesn't get banned it only proves what i said before. And sorry if this comes of realy offensive. Than you MIKE, are in on it. I wouldn't even be suprised if he pays you off to keep him here on the forums. I would like 50% of what KH earns this way. ( 1800 - 800 ) / 2 * ??? . Nice enough isn't it. Probably pays your site for a copple of months.

 

[EpicNPC]

Please read my previous post. I agree with what you're saying, but if the buyer willing accepts the offer made, then I have to consider the dispute settled. Had he not, I would have ruled for a 100% refund as stated in my post, but since that didn't happen I'm closing this.

KHAccount remains closed.