Realistic Prices for Todays Market [Wow Accounts]

[petegameco]

Hello There,

Im a New Seller , looking to gain some insight from more experienced Sellers.

I would like to know how several variables effect the value of an account.
I will list off my questions, feel free to help me out please ;p

im going off the base estimate that a level 80 w/ full t9 [5k gs approx] is valued at 40-50$

5000 gearscore = 50$
5500 gearscore = +??$
6000 gearscore = +??$

Having 2x 450 Proffesions= +??$
Having Epic Flyer= +??$
Having Dual Spec Talents= +??$
Having 3-pc Wrathfull pvp/2-pc Relent= +??$
Having 5-pc Wrathfull PVP = +??$
Having Wrathfull 1800 Weapons= +??$
Having Wrathfull 2200 Weapons= +??$
Having Amani Warbear = +??$
Having 100,000 Hk Title = +??$

Basically im looking for a breakdown of how these factors add up to give a final account value

also what happens if your account has 2x80's 3x80's 4x'80s

are they all analyzed at 100% of the above numbers, or is 2x80 the same as above

but additional 80's valued 50%

how does additional 80 on same account work.

Im just trying to get a good price estimate

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What is the difference between 200$ account and 400$ account , and 600$

I am not interested in factors such as 310% mounts, gladiator/arena master/ or other titles /scarab lord, etc just simpler stuff

are accounts going to reach a cap in value if they do not have 310% or pvp Titles?

 

[petegameco]

Also interested in following :

Having 00,000 Gold = - or + ??$
Having 10,000 Gold = +??$
Having 20,000 gold = +??$
Having 30,000 gold = +??$
Having 40,000 gold = +??$

 

[thedunbay]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/thedunbay-took-220-on-venmo-and-has-ignored-me.1616263/#post-6802556

Hm, not sure if it works like that. My jaw would definitely drop if it did though, very interesting post

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

not even close

 

[DarkDeserter]

Accounts are only worth what people will pay for the, there is no set value. Use logic, it takes 100$ or so to get the cdkeys, so at least make it a 100$ ;o, a good way to price stuff would be looking at the competition.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

saying cd keys cost = $100 therefore the account is a least worth $100 is the stupidest thing i've ever heard, its mean NOTHING

 

[petegameco]

Yea I had figured that All account would be worth more than the cost of starting a fresh level 1 on a new wotlk account.

Its simply not the case , Your looking at getting a bout 50$ max, for a full t9 character whos level 80.

talk about a good buy for a new player, lol

pay less than half the cost of the cd-keys, and skip ahead 1-2 months of grinding to start with adequate 80startergear.

it seems the market is competitive and no all accounts are not worth more than 100+

im just trying to find a way to value my accounts, they are mainly pvp toons, some with decent t10 pve gear.


edit: example i was offered 100$ for my two lesser geared toons, both around 5k gs pvp/pve. To seperate them from my main account would cost more than 100$ lol

edit2: what just kills me , and i guess lead to the inital confusion, is these websites that sell 5k gs gnome rogues for like 400$ and 6k gs toons for $600-800+
Im starting to doubt they get sales, or maybe they are scams, or possible that people trust them more, not really sure.

the toons listed on those websites are no where near the quality that you find here on this forum for same price range. This forum seems to have relatively high traffic and good product which is one reason i like it

Make sure you make clean, well organized posts with pics, tho or you get trolled ;p

 

[thefourthhorseman]

This question is something I've been wondering about as well. If a person has multiple 80s on an account, would it be better to spread out on multiple accounts or should they be sold as one?

 

[MaskedArmory]

This post gives me a headache.

I think it would give me less of a headache if people were able to construct sentences and not run-on sentences that last an entire paragraph.

 

[AccountDynasty.com]

This post gives me a headache.

I think it would give me less of a headache if people were able to construct sentences and not run-on sentences that last an entire paragraph.

Quoted For Truth

Personally for me the biggest factor in how much I will pay for an account is its security and who is selling it. For example, if someone I know and have seen around is selling an account that they are the OO of and have all info. It is obviously going to be worth more than an account that Joe Schmo is selling. I do not care if Joe Schmo has a 6.5kGS character with every mount in the game and every legendary. If they are unknown, and only take WU... Then there is no way I would buy their account or even take it for free for that matter.

 

[thedunbay]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/thedunbay-took-220-on-venmo-and-has-ignored-me.1616263/#post-6802556

This question is something I've been wondering about as well. If a person has multiple 80s on an account, would it be better to spread out on multiple accounts or should they be sold as one?

If all the multiple 80's have ICC stuff meaning 264+ then why not? Its pretty much guarantee'd to go over 200 bucks if the toon is fully 264. The profit from doing this is not much, but in the long run with all the toons to sell it definitely adds up. Think about it.

 

[xxxsacking881xxx]

the 50 dollars for a t9 is low. There are so many things you have to put into account. Does it have alts, titles, pets, vanity, id scan, ect the list goes on and on.

 

[thefourthhorseman]

With regards to reputation, I guess it's a bit of a catch 22 in that if you only ever had one account to play and now you're done, you won't have any rep for selling accts in the past. This is the situation i find myself in Only have 2 toons in icc gear, the rest are 5k gs or lower.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

Honestly, it is MORE safe to buy from someone who has no feedback and is doing a 1 time sale, cause you KNOW they are the OO, so if anything happens you know who it came from, and most of those people relaly don't care to play again

there is a HIGHER recall rate from high repped TWV people than from people with no reptuatoin

Irronically enough

 

[DarkDeserter]

there is a HIGHER recall rate from high repped TWV people than from people with no reptuatoin

Irronically enough

Where do you get this from? You're telling me you're more likely to scam someone than the new member who has absolutely no rep and can hardly speak English?

saying cd keys cost = $100 therefore the account is a least worth $100 is the stupidest thing i've ever heard, its mean NOTHING

Uh, actually it does MEAN something you ignorant tool. If anyone sells a account with an 80 on it for anything less than $100 got cheated. You think investing $100 in cdkeys then selling it for $50 makes any logical sense? Are you a retard?

 

[Kuz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread (http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/461871-scammer-kuz-diablo-3-gold.html)

Honestly, it is MORE safe to buy from someone who has no feedback and is doing a 1 time sale, cause you KNOW they are the OO, so if anything happens you know who it came from, and most of those people relaly don't care to play again

there is a HIGHER recall rate from high repped TWV people than from people with no reptuatoin

Irronically enough

very interesting, but if you bought it off the oo and it gets recalled you lose out. But it you buy it from a highly repped who will compensate or refund if the accounts recalled you atleast get something back

 

[Sakura]

HFM is wrong in this case. Pulling numbers out of your behind is not the way to make an argument.

Do TWV scam? Yes. Do FAR more scams happen from non-TWV members? Yes. And that is an easily verified fact.

So while you may get lucky and deal with that legit person who stumbled onto markee/mmobay, it's far more likely it's a scammers 23rd alt account.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

Your all total nubcakes sorry

I am not talking about accounts getting recalled BY THE TWV PERSON, it gets recalled from somewhere BEFORE THEM. When you deal with TWV, <5% of the time they will be the Original Owner. So therefore more owners = more chance of recall.

And as someone who buys/sells thousands of accounts both on here, and from users on google, I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. I have very very few accounts recalled from the users who come in from google, for they are all the Original Owner. I have a MUCH higher recall rate of accounts on mmobay including accounts that have come from TWV / Repped Members. The only time I really buy off here is when I really need accounts, but its a huge RISK.

The most LEGIT people are those who are just looking to quit the game, and do a 1 time sale for there account.

And also Kuz, there is a reason you pay with a credit card, so you can get your funds back no matter what

And to dark - you have no idea what your talking about

 

[Accountwarehouse.com]

Not to add fuel to the fire but here are some stats.

I have bought roughly 140 accounts so far in 2010.

I have had 4 recalls out of 140.

3 of those 4 recalls were TWV members...1 refunded me, 1 got banned for scamming, 1 is currently fixing to be banned in 48 hours.

 

[DarkDeserter]

And to dark - you have no idea what your talking about

You're a moron and you have no comprehensive understanding of how the real world works. Just because you cheat people out of their accounts by offering $30 does not mean it's the "correct" way to do things. You haven't even been around here that long so don't talk like you know everything, because you simply DON'T.

Until someone(unbiased) provides an actual factual sheet with all the scams that have ever taken place on Markee and MMOBAY with listed statistics of what kind of member actually scammed someone everything anyone says is pointless. TWV members are far less likely to scam someone than a newly registered person.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

lol? what are you raging for? you seem very butt hurt for some reason, and if you think wow account business has anything to do with the real world, you might want a reality check...and cheat people? What are we supposed to offer market value so we can make no profit? Are you stupid? Get your dumb *** out of here, every reseller offers around the same price.

 

[DarkDeserter]

lol? what are you raging for? you seem very butt hurt for some reason, and if you think wow account business has anything to do with the real world, you might want a reality check...and cheat people? What are we supposed to offer market value so we can make no profit? Are you stupid? Get your dumb *** out of here, every reseller offers around the same price.

Raging? Really? A WoW account "business" does have things to do with the REAL WORLD, or do you not get REAL money now? Running a WoW account "business" is just like running a pawn shop or any thing else.

How about offering a fair price to people? You lowball them as low as you could possibly get, not caring about them but caring about making as big as profit as you can make. And no, not every reseller offers the same price.

You're a moron and you have no understanding of how things really work. You have a very vague idea and then parade it around like you're amazing. You DO NOT control the market (nor does any other reseller), the people do. I know you think you're some amazing business and you're trying to save face by playing off "OH LOL U MAD BRO YAAAA" but it wont work, sorry. The only reason why people sell to resellers is because they either 1. Don't know the true value of a WoW account. 2.Don't want to deal with the chance of being scammed

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

hahaha, reading through most of your topics, I can see arguing with you is pointless, your just one of those people who really isn't very bright, and realize they are spewing all sorts of stuff out of their *** that makes no sense

You are entitled to you opinion, regardless of how stupid it makes you look. Its funny that you think trying to make the biggest profit possible is a BAD thing? Good to see you will be running a failure of a business

Might want to grow up one day buddy.

 

[Sakura]

Horde in one breath you call out someone for acting childish and then feel the need to be condescending, rude, and insulting in the next. There is no need for any of this.

Arguing that more recalls happen from TWV because they tend to trade more (and thus are not the OO's) is a completely different argument.

In other words, friggin relax people.

 

[DarkDeserter]

hahaha, reading through most of your topics, I can see arguing with you is pointless, your just one of those people who really isn't very bright, and realize they are spewing all sorts of stuff out of their *** that makes no sense

You are entitled to you opinion, regardless of how stupid it makes you look. Its funny that you think trying to make the biggest profit possible is a BAD thing? Good to see you will be running a failure of a business

Might want to grow up one day buddy.

If you're going to call someone stupid, maybe you should learn to spell correctly before doing so. You can't do anything to back up your petty little argument but cry about how stupid and wrong I am, without any factual information

You're a moron, and I do not run a business nor plan to. You see, I like to do things with my life. Not sit on my *** and cheat people out of their money, you take advantage of peoples ignorance in this market and it makes me absolutely sick to my stomach to see you sit here and claim it's the RIGHT thing to do, I serve my country while you cheat people. You're pathetic.

 

[Vampire]

TWV members are far less likely to scam someone than a newly registered person.

I have 50% recall rate from TWVas of right now (2 out of 4 accounts), I bought 2 from OOs and they're still fine after 2 years. All of them were crappy account that I use for my botting/memory editing experiments. None of them got banned by Blizzard


The point is that OO are less likely to scam, then an account that what chain traded. A lot of TWV are resellers and they're dependent on their sources to be trustworthy. Yes, non OO sellers are more likely to scam then any other group.

 

[GameSupply]

You guys don't realize one thing. Some sites have some crazy algorithm that spits out automated quotes. What the rest of us do that don't want to go that way, and for some godforsaken reason choose to deal with people en masse, is guess.

I mean, we stay active in the marketplace, we know what we can resell stuff for to a point, what we need to pay people, what we need to advertise, what we need for this and that and the other,and we give quotes accordingly. There's no spreadsheet that I have for this and that and the other, which is what the OP was asking. It's a question of budgeting, and how much business we want to do, how much risk we want to assume, and a number of other factors.

 

[DarkDeserter]

I have 50% recall rate from TWVas of right now (2 out of 4 accounts), I bought 2 from OOs and they're still fine after 2 years. All of them were crappy account that I use for my botting/memory editing experiments. None of them got banned by Blizzard


The point is that OO are less likely to scam, then an account that what chain traded. A lot of TWV are resellers and they're dependent on their sources to be trustworthy. Yes, non OO sellers are more likely to scam then any other group.

My accounts, bought from TWV members have never been recalled. So...using your (and hfm) TWVs are still far less likely to scam someone than some random person. Oh and if you read my posts I never say directly that OO's are all scammers.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

get outta here, I spend < 1 - 2 hours a day, I do this for FUN, stop acting like your some big hot shot

 

[maskofdj-Account closed]

ok guys cool down

 

[DarkDeserter]

get outta here, I spend < 1 - 2 hours a day, I do this for FUN, stop acting like your some big hot shot

Oh poor baby can't come up with some clever so you result to mundane responses, qqqqq.

 

[Accountwarehouse.com]

I wish we had some sort of mod on these forums that would show a poster's age by their registered birthday on the forums. Would make some of these threads make a lot more sense.

 

[maskofdj-Account closed]

I have had my deal of scammers, I for one seen more non twv scammers then twv but you also have to look at other things like some twv people think they can get away w scamming because they a. Have alot of rep or b. People will trust them because they are twv. So it happens and if hfm wants to make a profit so be it. Anyone would do it to cut a profit in this market no matter what but I seen prices from the resellers that are better then alot of the other sites out there look at my druid i have I'll post links later, I was offered 50-75 for it on acct selling websites but some resellers offer around 150 or so. So the market can be alot worst and if a person wants to sell on their own they can use one of the middlemans. But on another note some flaming each other and have a civil convo please and yes my grammar is bad. The joys of typing this out on my iPhone haha

 

[Vampire]

My accounts, bought from TWV members have never been recalled. So...using your (and hfm) TWVs are still far less likely to scam someone than some random person. Oh and if you read my posts I never say directly that OO's are all scammers.

I am not arguing with you, just talking about my experience.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

Its ok he takes everything personally and enjoys lashing out, makes him feel better.

 

[DarkDeserter]

Its ok he takes everything personally and enjoys lashing out, makes him feel better.

Says the guy parading around here like he's relevant or something, haaaaaaa. You're a sad excuse for a human being that tries to justify your excuses for cheating people out of their money, whatever helps you sleep at night.

I am not arguing with you, just talking about my experience.

I was simply responding.