Re-ban Scammer Shadowkreed

[Wreckage]

Information
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Date that scamming took place: ex; Oct 24, 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: legitnessftfw
Your Instant Messenger ID: tt13vamp
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: Shadowkreed
Other information:


Scam Information
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What was scammed?:
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...-gs-lk-25-wep-icc10-drake-cd-keys-repped.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $XXX.XX USD

Was a middleman used?:
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: Day of/after shadow was banned for scamming CD keys, he offers to recall that hunter on NinjaMD to trade for my mage
Other details / notes: Says that he was joking.

Proof


Chat Logs:

legitnessftfw
is available
4:58 pm
Available
23h and 44m ago





TT13Vamp 4:58 pm TT13Vamp (4:58:26 PM): LOL how'd you get banned?






legitnessftfw 4:58 pm legitnessftfw (4:58:30 PM): I scammed some keys






TT13Vamp 4:58 pm TT13Vamp (4:58:32 PM): LOL






legitnessftfw 4:58 pm legitnessftfw (4:58:33 PM): said **** it


legitnessftfw (4:58:36 PM): I don't need the site




legitnessftfw (4:58:38 PM): they don't pay me








TT13Vamp 4:58 pm TT13Vamp (4:58:42 PM): hahaha for sure



TT13Vamp (4:58:47 PM): I seen that today and was like no ****?



TT13Vamp (4:58:48 PM): lol






legitnessftfw 4:58 pm legitnessftfw (4:58:50 PM): xD






TT13Vamp 4:59 pm TT13Vamp (4:59:08 PM): That druid oursmith has safe at all?






legitnessftfw 4:59 pm legitnessftfw (4:59:13 PM): no


legitnessftfw (4:59:15 PM): lol




legitnessftfw (4:59:17 PM): prolly not




legitnessftfw (4:59:20 PM): it was recalled from him twice




legitnessftfw (4:59:24 PM): and he got it back








TT13Vamp 4:59 pm TT13Vamp (4:59:25 PM): that is what I heard from Kayne too






legitnessftfw 4:59 pm legitnessftfw (4:59:25 PM): AGAIN






TT13Vamp 5:02 pm TT13Vamp (5:02:29 PM): damn bro out in flames... Apparently that guy is in touch with the oo of that druid or some **** blah blah blah I dunno whatever






legitnessftfw 5:02 pm legitnessftfw (5:02:36 PM): xd


legitnessftfw (5:02:37 PM): lawl








TT13Vamp 5:08 pm TT13Vamp (5:08:08 PM): What about all the other accounts you trade recently?



TT13Vamp (5:08:11 PM): gonna **** them or leave em?






legitnessftfw 5:08 pm legitnessftfw (5:08:14 PM): I dont know


legitnessftfw (5:08:15 PM): prolly








TT13Vamp 5:08 pm TT13Vamp (5:08:24 PM): lol prolly which?






legitnessftfw 5:08 pm legitnessftfw (5:08:29 PM): i don't know


legitnessftfw (5:08:31 PM): all of em?








TT13Vamp 5:08 pm TT13Vamp (5:08:53 PM): I dunno I almost just trade for that nelf hunter you hard LOL then was like wait a second this account looks super familiar ahahahah



TT13Vamp (5:09:00 PM): and was like OH **** did you trade this from shadow?



TT13Vamp (5:09:01 PM): ahahaha






legitnessftfw 5:09 pm legitnessftfw (5:09:05 PM): NINJAMD?






TT13Vamp 5:09 pm TT13Vamp (5:09:52 PM): yep



TT13Vamp (5:09:55 PM): two is



TT13Vamp (5:09:56 PM): i's






legitnessftfw 5:09 pm legitnessftfw (5:09:59 PM): i won't **** with it


legitnessftfw (5:10:01 PM): if u get it




legitnessftfw (5:10:04 PM): actually




legitnessftfw (5:10:07 PM): i'll get it back then u trade me :-D








TT13Vamp 5:10 pm TT13Vamp (5:10:10 PM): LOL






legitnessftfw 5:10 pm legitnessftfw (5:10:20 PM): I can send in the recovery form


legitnessftfw (5:10:27 PM): i got id and KEYS








TT13Vamp 5:10 pm TT13Vamp (5:10:34 PM): isn't that crazy you can do that **** now?






legitnessftfw 5:10 pm legitnessftfw (5:10:42 PM): mhm






TT13Vamp 5:11 pm TT13Vamp (5:11:56 PM): crazy ****



TT13Vamp (5:12:07 PM): you should have went out with more of a bang or something, but still



TT13Vamp (5:12:09 PM): thats just nuts hah






legitnessftfw 5:12 pm legitnessftfw (5:12:16 PM): all I need is keys


legitnessftfw (5:12:17 PM): nothing else








TT13Vamp 5:12 pm TT13Vamp (5:12:23 PM): and nah man I don't want to recall anyones s*** to trade for :-( not my style bro






legitnessftfw 5:12 pm legitnessftfw (5:12:30 PM): it is






TT13Vamp 5:12 pm TT13Vamp (5:12:51 PM): eh?






legitnessftfw 5:13 pm legitnessftfw (5:13:00 PM): it is ur style


legitnessftfw (5:13:00 PM): n*****








TT13Vamp 5:13 pm TT13Vamp (5:13:35 PM): LOL nah bro I've been f***** around to much, I just want to find a solid f****** deal






legitnessftfw 5:13 pm legitnessftfw (5:13:45 PM): would be solid


legitnessftfw (5:13:46 PM): ll








TT13Vamp 5:13 pm TT13Vamp (5:13:49 PM): it's turning into a real ******* issue on this site tho im telling you






legitnessftfw 5:13 pm legitnessftfw (5:13:58 PM): hat's turning into a real ******* issue?


legitnessftfw (5:14:00 PM): whats*








TT13Vamp 5:14 pm TT13Vamp (5:14:22 PM): finding a solid deal on mmobay, everyone tries to **** me or lowball me hard



TT13Vamp (5:14:25 PM): super lame






legitnessftfw 5:14 pm legitnessftfw (5:14:28 PM): mhm


legitnessftfw (5:14:31 PM): what do you have anyways

That is me talking to him as I am talking to NinjaMD

niinjamd
is available
4:34 pm




niinjamd 3:13 pm niinjamd (4:34:18 PM): [Offline IM sent 1h and 20m ago] hey


niinjamd (4:34:18 PM): [Offline IM sent 1h and 20m ago] hit me up when ur onlin








TT13Vamp 4:52 pm TT13Vamp (4:52:41 PM): Hey I am back






niinjamd 4:52 pm niinjamd (4:52:46 PM): Watsup.






TT13Vamp 4:53 pm TT13Vamp (4:53:11 PM): ahh not much dealing with a billion scammers today for some reason hah






niinjamd 4:53 pm niinjamd (4:53:18 PM): :S


niinjamd (4:53:27 PM): lot of them out there tbh




niinjamd (4:53:35 PM): its annoying its such a waste of time now




niinjamd (4:53:39 PM): specially with acc recovery tool




niinjamd (4:53:47 PM): takes 5 sec if you get scammed.




niinjamd (4:53:50 PM): =/








TT13Vamp 4:54 pm TT13Vamp (4:54:32 PM): lol what do you mean?






niinjamd 4:54 pm niinjamd (4:54:59 PM): https://us.battle.net/account/support/account-recovery.html






TT13Vamp 4:56 pm TT13Vamp (4:56:08 PM): nice hahaha



TT13Vamp (4:56:10 PM): :-D



TT13Vamp (4:56:11 PM): epic






niinjamd 4:56 pm niinjamd (4:56:12 PM):


niinjamd (4:56:18 PM): Stupid scammers ;-)




niinjamd (4:56:41 PM): So yea, wana c the hunter ingame or w/e








TT13Vamp 4:57 pm TT13Vamp (4:57:08 PM): Yeah sure what server?



TT13Vamp (4:57:26 PM): actually give me like 5-10 to go grab something to eat first?






niinjamd 4:57 pm niinjamd (4:57:33 PM): fosho






TT13Vamp 4:57 pm TT13Vamp (4:57:34 PM): woke up like 20 ago havnt had anything to eat yet heh






niinjamd 4:57 pm niinjamd (4:57:38 PM): ima head her to human place


niinjamd (4:57:42 PM): haha








TT13Vamp 5:06 pm TT13Vamp (5:06:38 PM): hey I am back



TT13Vamp (5:06:51 PM): just got some cereal and read about shadowkreep getting banned...



TT13Vamp (5:06:52 PM): Crazy



TT13Vamp (5:06:56 PM): Guy had like 19 rep






niinjamd 5:07 pm niinjamd (5:07:03 PM): why is he banned


niinjamd (5:07:04 PM):








TT13Vamp 5:07 pm TT13Vamp (5:07:18 PM): Scammed keys






niinjamd 5:07 pm niinjamd (5:07:28 PM): rofl what a dumabss


niinjamd (5:07:34 PM): how to loose 19 rep for 15$








TT13Vamp 5:07 pm TT13Vamp (5:07:36 PM): thats not the hunter from him is it?



TT13Vamp (5:07:36 PM): lol






niinjamd 5:07 pm niinjamd (5:07:45 PM): yes it is wont lie to you






TT13Vamp 5:07 pm TT13Vamp (5:07:53 PM): LOL no ****, I totally figured that






niinjamd 5:07 pm niinjamd (5:07:58 PM): I wouldnt feel honest


niinjamd (5:08:03 PM): to trade something from a banned person








TT13Vamp 5:08 pm TT13Vamp (5:08:30 PM): Yeah I hear that






niinjamd 5:08 pm niinjamd (5:08:44 PM): I got 2 account one I use for trade and my own one which I wont ever trade


niinjamd (5:08:48 PM): incase of stupid **** like that happen




niinjamd (5:08:49 PM): sigh




niinjamd (5:09:10 PM): Tbh bro hes dumb to get banned for keys








TT13Vamp 5:09 pm TT13Vamp (5:09:15 PM): yeah






niinjamd 5:09 pm niinjamd (5:09:15 PM): he should have atleast scammed something worthy


niinjamd (5:09:16 PM):








TT13Vamp 5:09 pm TT13Vamp (5:09:17 PM): its ****** tho man



TT13Vamp (5:09:21 PM): I dont get why he did it






niinjamd 5:09 pm niinjamd (5:09:23 PM): ye


niinjamd (5:09:35 PM): ima have to recall my old rogue.




niinjamd (5:09:39 PM): x)








TT13Vamp 5:09 pm TT13Vamp (5:09:47 PM): from shadow?






niinjamd 5:10 pm niinjamd (5:10:00 PM): hm ?


niinjamd (5:10:07 PM): well




niinjamd (5:10:16 PM): its never safe to have done a trade with someone whos banned now




niinjamd (5:10:20 PM): he can just act total ******








TT13Vamp 5:10 pm TT13Vamp (5:10:21 PM): yeah no ****






niinjamd 5:10 pm niinjamd (5:10:26 PM): and **** up everything


niinjamd (5:10:37 PM): if he recall the hunter tbh




niinjamd (5:10:39 PM): hes pretty dumb








niinjamd 5:10 pm niinjamd (5:10:44 PM): my rogue is worth like 3x more


niinjamd (5:10:45 PM): lol..








TT13Vamp 5:10 pm TT13Vamp (5:10:46 PM): TT13Vamp 5:08 pm
I dunno I almost just trade for that nelf hunter you hard LOL then was like wait a second this account looks super familiar ahahahah
and was like OH ****! did you trade this from shadow?
ahahaha
legitnessftfw 5:09 pm
NINJAMD?
TT13Vamp 5:09 pm
yep
two is
i's
legitnessftfw 5:09 pm
i won't **** with it
if u get it

actually

i'll get it back then u trade me :-D
TT13Vamp 5:10 pm
LOL
legitnessftfw 5:10 pm
I can send in the recovery form

i got id and KEYS
TT13Vamp 5:10 pm
isn't that crazy you can do that **** now?



TT13Vamp (5:10:50 PM): just saying bro



TT13Vamp (5:10:52 PM): maybe get that rogue back



TT13Vamp (5:11:17 PM): I'm trying to be buddy buddy with him to get info btw .... like I just did for you






niinjamd 5:11 pm niinjamd (5:11:20 PM): lol I paid him keys for that hunt. x) but its alright


niinjamd (5:11:27 PM): ye would be kewl if u could get me




niinjamd (5:11:31 PM): his home phone number




niinjamd (5:11:32 PM): or sumthing.








TT13Vamp 5:11 pm TT13Vamp (5:11:42 PM): Dont know if I have it tbh



TT13Vamp (5:11:49 PM): I never saved convos with him =\






niinjamd 5:12 pm niinjamd (5:12:16 PM): tell me


niinjamd (5:12:19 PM): if I should act *******




niinjamd (5:12:20 PM): over the hunt




niinjamd (5:12:25 PM): like deleted it and everything




niinjamd (5:12:28 PM): delete*




niinjamd (5:12:35 PM): o.o








TT13Vamp 5:12 pm TT13Vamp (5:12:39 PM): one sec






niinjamd 5:13 pm niinjamd (5:13:31 PM): should I talk to him


niinjamd (5:13:32 PM):








TT13Vamp 5:13 pm TT13Vamp (5:13:56 PM): I wouldnt yet



TT13Vamp (5:14:04 PM): cause he'll be like WTF BNRO WTF why you telling on me!



TT13Vamp (5:14:08 PM): just wait






niinjamd 5:14 pm niinjamd (5:14:15 PM): Tbh tell me


niinjamd (5:14:24 PM): are you stupid enough to trade your mage for this hunter even if he recovery it




niinjamd (5:14:29 PM): you never know if in the future hell do it agian




niinjamd (5:14:31 PM): loool








TT13Vamp 5:14 pm TT13Vamp (5:14:32 PM): god no






niinjamd 5:14 pm niinjamd (5:14:43 PM): ye


niinjamd (5:14:44 PM): tbh








TT13Vamp 5:14 pm TT13Vamp (5:14:49 PM): legitnessftfw 5:12 pm
all I need is keys
nothing else
TT13Vamp 5:12 pm
and nah man I don't want to recall anyones **** to trade for :-( not my style bro
legitnessftfw 5:12 pm
it is
TT13Vamp 5:12 pm
eh?
legitnessftfw 5:13 pm
it is ur style

******
TT13Vamp 5:13 pm
LOL nah bro I've been ****** around to much, I just want to find a solid ******* deal
legitnessftfw 5:13 pm
would be solid

ll
TT13Vamp 5:13 pm
it's turning into a real ******* issue on this site tho im telling you
legitnessftfw 5:13 pm
hat's turning into a real ******* issue?

whats*
TT13Vamp 5:14 pm
finding a solid deal on mmobay, everyone tries to **** me or lowball me hard
super lame
legitnessftfw 5:14 pm
mhm

what do you have anyways



TT13Vamp (5:14:58 PM): thats the last message he sent me



TT13Vamp (5:15:02 PM): so do what you want with the hunter man



TT13Vamp (5:15:06 PM): that is totally your call



TT13Vamp (5:15:11 PM): and honestly, that sucks **** :-(

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Other proof: I sent Ninja a message. hopefully he sees it soon and can respond to this thread.

Additional Information

I will gladly SS and host those chat logs if needed. Being drunk at the time doesn't make it ok to scam someone. He showed no remourse for scamming the person the next day, around 5PM (which he blames on being hung over)
He says when you see LOLs hes joking, do you see any LOLs when he offers to recall the hunter? Of course not, the guy is a scammer get rid of him.

As many have said before me, ktnxbye

---------- Post added 11-03-2010 at 08:49 PM ----------

Also nothing was taken, the guy had no remorse for stealing the keys, didn't say "Oh i was drunk and screwed up" when I asked when he was banned. He simply said "scammed cd keys, I'm done with mmobay"

You can't be a scammer then come crawling back when you want to, paying the cdkeys back or not, the guy is a scammer, offered to recall an account, and is coming crawling back. Not fair to be putting people at risk with this guy being allowed on me. my 2cents till either ninja or a mod replies.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

When Ninja shows proof I recalled that night, you let me know, Until then I didn't have anything to do with him, that was the same night he recalled on me, I threatened cause He told me the rogue wasn't going to last.

Therefore, it's his thread you should be making, not mine.
You admit'd to him recalling when I didn't, I was mad at him since he said it was't going to last.
So I threatened to recall it, that's the only logical thing.

When he gives proof the hunter was recalled, I'll then believe this and fully compensate him.
Thanks, mod take that into consideration, any aim logs needed, hit me up.

 

[lil tunechi]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/440603-lil-tunechi-scammer-scammed-friend-300-wu-post-coming.html

**crickets**

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

As far as the drunk situation, that's not the only reasons, you don't have all the facts, when you get all the facts, which I'm not open to tell you, since you've had nothing to do with this, I don't have to prove anything to you, I claimed to be hung over, which I Was, in that case I was mad and still was banned at the time, Ignorance is a clever thing, When you come to grow up and take into consideration not all people are perfect at one time, then i'll respect you.

---------- Post added 11-03-2010 at 09:01 PM ----------

Dest is the rightful owner of the hunter before I got it, he had ID and all, he knows for a fact I didn't recall it, I wouldn't talk to him this day, that just gives you another false accusation, Stop trying to be ROBO cop, and grow up man, I'm sorry what happened between you and ash and you're thinking the whole world is a scammer, get over it man, this site is full of it, we all make mistakes, Look at 100% of the fresh members, all ex-banned members.

 

[Wreckage]

So because I didn't agree to you recalling the hunter from ninja to trade ME means you weren't going to do it right? I am NOT going to put myself in that situation, and respectively I don't think ANYONE here would either.

You told me straight up why you were banned, and said you were done with MMObay. You can't scam people then come crawling back because you made a boo-boo. You were banned for scamming CDKEYS, and offered to recall the hunter? Yeah pretty clear on your intentions bud.

I haven't spoken with ninja since this happened, but I assuming in what he said in that message, he did recall the rogue because you were planning to recall that hunter. Pretty simple right bud? If not go read the 4 pages about what happened with ash/kayne/kredon and lev.

There isn't going to be proof you recalled it because I WOULD NOT TRADE YOU for the account. Lets see what a mod has to say

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

And if you read, he had more intentions of taking the rouge back then I had of taking the hunter, in all honesty, that's a false accusation + Ninja just wanting his rogue back and has his little buddy here to back up the "situation", 2 v 1, he's trying to make Ninja look better. I'm done here till a mod talks to me, kthnxsbai

 

[Wreckage]

Nothing has happened with ash, so I am not sure where you're going with that. Also name calling isn't my game, lets get a mod here and see where this goes.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

So because I didn't agree to you recalling the hunter from ninja to trade ME means you weren't going to do it right? I am NOT going to put myself in that situation, and respectively I don't think ANYONE here would either.

You told me straight up why you were banned, and said you were done with MMObay. You can't scam people then come crawling back because you made a boo-boo. You were banned for scamming CDKEYS, and offered to recall the hunter? Yeah pretty clear on your intentions bud.

I haven't spoken with ninja since this happened, but I assuming in what he said in that message, he did recall the rogue because you were planning to recall that hunter. Pretty simple right bud? If not go read the 4 pages about what happened with ash/kayne/kredon and lev.

There isn't going to be proof you recalled it because I WOULD NOT TRADE YOU for the account. Lets see what a mod has to say

Whether you agree'd or not, I would of taken the hunter back, the reason for trading is cause you don't have the feel to play the account you receive or are after a new ambition. I'm a better person that now, I've learn from my mistake, jshi1988 is the person I scammed, the next day I helped the guy out, I gained his respect back, I did what I had to do to make myself Legitnessftfw. I didn't give up on the site, I was hung over and ignorant, it's different, you're only logic is OH LOOK HE'S BANNED NOW HE'S NOT HMMM LET'S SEE WHAT I CAN PULL OUT MY ***, If this was a problem, this would of been posted a long time ago, when it actually took place. Which nothing as far as scamming took place, now when I see proof of me recalling the hunter, other than some stupid me acting cool on aim, then I have no problem.

 

[Ash]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/566183-Ash - hacking into a member's epicnpc account

Sorry Shadow, please refresh my memory? what problem between me and Wreckage. Your a bit too old to be name calling cupcake, just wait till the mods noww.

 

[Wreckage]

I didn't post anything because you were ALREADY BANNED FOR SCAMMING. Take your advnice and grow up please. Also post some screenshots and chatlogs bud, because you have NO PROOF defending you otherwise.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

I was told two stories on behalf of the druid someone told me Vamp had, which was in the mess of you're recalling ect. IF I was told wrong, then sorry, that's my mistake, Name calling? I don't see much name calling? Calling him a ROBO cop is calling names? That's being realistic.

Like I said if this was an issue before then this should of been posted before.
Mods will see this, I will fight the issue. I didn't do anything wrong. If anything happened, the rogue was recalled. The proof is in your own log. I threatened and didn't take action cause I'm smarter than that, I was sure he wouldn't recall but then he said it wouldn't last, so I let it be, I had to handle my situation with Jshi, WHICH is the reason I was banned, not for this childish stuff. When ninja and a mod arrive, we'll settle this VIA phone or vent, or a simple aim chat box. Fine with me

 

[Whambulance]

Well seeing as no scam took place no ban will either. Please quit.trying to stir the pot. If you have any proof of an actual scam and not just talk please provide it.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

When mods come around I will show the PURE screenshots of him threatening, OH and not to forget, He did say he was recalling it dead flat, I said in the chat I COULD. Like I said, when Ninja and a mod are around, we'll handle this. Till then I would rather see Ninja make this post and not someone else, makes more sense.

---------- Post added 11-03-2010 at 09:19 PM ----------

Well seeing as no scam took place no ban will either. Please quit.trying to stir the pot. If you have any proof of an actual scam and not just talk please provide it.

Thanks
And the heat ends here.
Thanks, once again.

 

[Whambulance]

Moved to correct forum and closed because this is nothing but a he said she said war. If any new pertinent information comes to light feel free to message me.