Information
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Dispute Date: 24/09/2015
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: triiiil
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Unknown
Your Instant Messenger ID: Nova.Synapse
Other information: Hoping to prevent anyone from being taken advantage of. STEAM ID: Torque
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? CS:GO items/skins in exchange for money
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/849364-Selling Skins - Cheaper Than Market | Paypal
Approximate value of property: $430 USD
Was a middleman used? N/A
If yes, who? N/A
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: I currently have a post looking to sell my CS:GO Knife skin in exchange for Paypal cash, After being scammed once today i already i have begun to be ever mode vigilant and in doing so noticed that on M4Ks threads he listed a different Skype ID to the one being used. When bringing this up i was told that he was using an alternate Skype, His personal one and was currently at school and unable to verify via post, but if i liked i could PM him and he would reply at a later time of day. I agreed and a few minutes later i began being pressured and asked if i wanted to do the transaction now. Being suspicious i agreed and tried to get further information out of him, and told him i would prefer the PM method, following which he became quite irate and told me i wasted his time and he needed to get back to work (Note, This was school previously)
I also found it suspicious that someone with quite a large sales backing and having dealt with lots of rare items via CS:GO had an empty and quite poor inventory in the trade offer screen in-game, Which sounded other alarm bells.
Other details / notes:
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Image of Steam Profile provided:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/rwQfqm0.png
Skype Contact Proof:
Other proof:
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? Roughly 11.
I understand this wasn't successful, However i feel this needed to be reported so that M4K himself can be aware of this and take necessary precautions via his posts to avoid impersonation and to help other users out there.
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Dispute Date: 24/09/2015
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: triiiil
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Unknown
Your Instant Messenger ID: Nova.Synapse
Other information: Hoping to prevent anyone from being taken advantage of. STEAM ID: Torque
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? CS:GO items/skins in exchange for money
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/849364-Selling Skins - Cheaper Than Market | Paypal
Approximate value of property: $430 USD
Was a middleman used? N/A
If yes, who? N/A
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: I currently have a post looking to sell my CS:GO Knife skin in exchange for Paypal cash, After being scammed once today i already i have begun to be ever mode vigilant and in doing so noticed that on M4Ks threads he listed a different Skype ID to the one being used. When bringing this up i was told that he was using an alternate Skype, His personal one and was currently at school and unable to verify via post, but if i liked i could PM him and he would reply at a later time of day. I agreed and a few minutes later i began being pressured and asked if i wanted to do the transaction now. Being suspicious i agreed and tried to get further information out of him, and told him i would prefer the PM method, following which he became quite irate and told me i wasted his time and he needed to get back to work (Note, This was school previously)
I also found it suspicious that someone with quite a large sales backing and having dealt with lots of rare items via CS:GO had an empty and quite poor inventory in the trade offer screen in-game, Which sounded other alarm bells.
Other details / notes:
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
[9/23/2015 11:40:40 PM] *** K.L.S has shared contact details with Denz0RRRRRRR_. ***
[9/23/2015 11:40:57 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Hey
[9/23/2015 11:41:01 PM] K.L.S: Hey
[9/23/2015 11:41:47 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I am m4k from epicNpc.
[9/23/2015 11:41:47 PM] K.L.S: What can i do for you
[9/23/2015 11:41:51 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: About your knife
[9/23/2015 11:41:51 PM] K.L.S: ah
[9/23/2015 11:41:52 PM] K.L.S: Yes
[9/23/2015 11:42:13 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Can I see ur steam profile ?
[9/23/2015 11:42:18 PM] K.L.S: Sure
[9/23/2015 11:42:20 PM] K.L.S: Sec
[9/23/2015 11:43:11 PM] K.L.S: REMOVED, PERSONAL STEAM NAME
[9/23/2015 11:43:20 PM] K.L.S: Have you posted on my thread? Cant see it
[9/23/2015 11:48:24 PM] K.L.S: Interested at all?
[9/23/2015 11:52:50 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Yea I am also interested at M4 + AK + USP.
[9/23/2015 11:52:59 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And I cant post atm cuz I am from mobile with the epicNpc.
[9/23/2015 11:53:04 PM] K.L.S: Alright
[9/23/2015 11:53:12 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: If you can pm me and when I will be back I will pm you back.
[9/23/2015 11:53:16 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: If you would wait
[9/23/2015 11:53:20 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Or if you trust me we can begin..
[9/23/2015 11:53:43 PM] K.L.S: What did you say your EpicNPC name was?
[9/23/2015 11:54:12 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/270291-m4k
[9/23/2015 11:54:50 PM] K.L.S: Okay, Can i ask a question?
[9/23/2015 11:55:20 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Yea bud
[9/23/2015 11:55:23 PM] K.L.S: How come on all your posts it says your Skype name is different to what your talking to me with?
[9/23/2015 11:55:34 PM] K.L.S: If you dont mind, I would rather PM you and let you reply
[9/23/2015 11:55:48 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Yea man
[9/23/2015 11:55:52 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: PM me I will pm you back
[9/23/2015 11:55:57 PM | Edited 11:55:59 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: This skype is my personal one
[9/23/2015 11:55:59 PM] K.L.S: Alright, Sounds good
[9/23/2015 11:56:10 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I using the one that I post with on epic for biz.
[9/23/2015 11:56:18 PM] K.L.S: Out of curiosity, What are you offering for the items?
[9/23/2015 11:56:18 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I am online on school on this one so I added you.
[9/23/2015 11:56:24 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Real money.
[9/23/2015 11:56:25 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Lol
[9/23/2015 11:56:29 PM] K.L.S: Durr
[9/23/2015 11:56:31 PM] K.L.S: Price wise
[9/23/2015 11:57:03 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Well
[9/23/2015 11:57:14 PM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Lets talk when I get home and pm you back ok ?
[9/23/2015 11:57:19 PM] K.L.S: Sure
[12:03:31 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: But if you want to do it now we can just do it basicly.
[12:03:35 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: 1 item before full payment
[12:03:52 AM] K.L.S: Hmm, Sure
[12:04:03 AM] K.L.S: Can do M4 and AK and USPS first
[12:04:09 AM] K.L.S: Depends what you offer though
[12:04:17 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And we doing it now you mean ?
[12:04:21 AM] K.L.S: Yeah
[12:04:40 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Hmmm
[12:04:42 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: How much for all ?
[12:04:48 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: You say price man cuz I don't offering.
[12:05:01 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I don't have any steam analyst here..
[12:05:35 AM] K.L.S: Well, What % are you looking to pay?
If i was going to base off 75% id probably say $322
[12:05:44 AM] K.L.S: Total price of $460 - 25%
[12:06:50 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: 460$ for all ?
[12:06:56 AM] K.L.S: $322 for all
[12:07:14 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Hmm
[12:07:17 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Fair.
[12:08:49 AM] K.L.S: Interested?
[12:09:05 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Yeap.
[12:09:18 AM] K.L.S: Would be via Paypal, If interested give me your Paypal email and i will send you an Invoice
[12:09:37 AM] K.L.S: Also your steam link
[12:09:50 AM] K.L.S: I need to do trade offer
[12:11:33 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I am slow cuz I am from mobile.
[12:11:40 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And give me your paypal
[12:11:44 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Cuz I am from moblie
[12:12:00 AM] K.L.S: Paypal is [email protected]
[12:12:09 AM] K.L.S: What is your steam id?
[12:12:56 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=244401340&token=FQPqbZZn
[12:13:56 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: May I ask
[12:14:04 AM] K.L.S: Sure
[12:14:10 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: How you want the payment ?
[12:14:14 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: F&F ?
[12:14:20 AM] K.L.S: Paypal, F&F
[12:14:23 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Ok.
[12:14:26 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I am ready anyway
[12:14:30 AM] K.L.S: Okay
[12:14:34 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Just say when you sended the offer.
[12:14:38 AM] K.L.S: Alright
[12:14:43 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And whats ur name and last name ?
[12:14:46 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Just to be sure after the payment,.
[12:15:53 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: ?
[12:16:08 AM] K.L.S: One sec
[12:16:11 AM] K.L.S: Arranging trade offer
[12:17:22 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Arranging
[12:17:25 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: What you mean ?
[12:17:59 AM] K.L.S: Hmm, I changed my mind. I think i will wait till you get home and reply to PM first
[12:18:11 AM] K.L.S: If you can login to Paypal and Steam you can login to EpicNPC
[12:18:22 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Lol...
[12:18:25 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Paypal and Steam
[12:18:31 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I downloaded them from play market
[12:18:40 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Its like a program
[12:18:45 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: So I just waitied this time that you wasted
[12:18:49 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: With money ready
[12:18:55 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And you saying that you changed your mind ?
[12:19:00 AM] K.L.S: Yeah, I have Android too. I'm sorry, Just need to be safe.
[12:19:02 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Why you didn't say at the begin ..
[12:19:08 AM] K.L.S: Just feels fishy at the moment thinking about it
[12:19:21 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I just asked for the skins before the full payment
[12:19:23 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And its fair.
[12:19:33 AM] K.L.S: Do you mind if we use an MM then?
[12:19:42 AM] K.L.S: EpicNPC Moderator MM
[12:19:46 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Lol I need to verify my self on epicNpc..
[12:19:49 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: When we using the mm
[12:19:54 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: And if you want pay the fee on u.
[12:19:56 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: KLS.
[12:19:57 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Yes or no.
[12:20:00 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: Last chance
[12:20:04 AM] Denz0RRRRRRR_: I have to go to work man.
[12:20:21 AM] K.L.S: Nah, I will wait till you get home then.
[12:20:27 AM] K.L.S: You also said you were at school, Now work
[12:20:39 AM] K.L.S: I'll wait for PM, Sorry
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Image of Steam Profile provided:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/rwQfqm0.png
Skype Contact Proof:
Other proof:
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? Roughly 11.
I understand this wasn't successful, However i feel this needed to be reported so that M4K himself can be aware of this and take necessary precautions via his posts to avoid impersonation and to help other users out there.
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