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Please do not purchase from Joppe08222

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Dispute Type
Scam Accusation

CasualWhale81

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Information
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Purchase Date: October 27
Date the problem began: November 13
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Joppe08222
Your Instant Messenger ID: yjhahm

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lvl...-73-legs-and-high-shards-8-6m-pp-250.2080325/
Approximate value of property: $250.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Armik

What is the dispute about?

Other details / notes: I received the account and all went well until I received a notice for a ban. Justification received a request to restore the account. I have made no email changes, purchases, etc to get flagged.


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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? After the account was banned, the seller mentions that he got it from his friend.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) All information was provided to the guardian.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 17 days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
hello, i did sell him account but what for is the account banned tell me? i purchased it from other person way back before i sold it to u and it was standing for about month without any use
 
When you refused PayPal that should have been a red flag to me. Even the middleman Armik said that he couldn't do anything if I used Transwise.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
When you refused PayPal that should have been a red flag to me. Even the middleman Armik said that he couldn't do anything if I used Transwise.
paypal not safe, thats why. share ban message to us
 
Look I can't provide anything besides Helsinki, Finland to Plarium. I have asked if you can contact your friend for the other information that I need to provide Plarium.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
by the info u told me that u didnt change information after middleman, is ur fault. by checking the picture on top where u have made support ticket to recover the account and they probably noticed that ur not owner, this is what exactly they ask when someone is making recovering appeal to acc, means u got it banned because they can see it has been sold or traded, the ban is not my fault, i have done nothing wrong plus that @ARMIK is accusing me in scamming, he should also put his words from private message to this thread, i never told im acc owner, when i sold the acc it was choosed option as not original owner, i purchased it about month+ before i sold to him and apperantly it was purchased as starter acc from some asian farmers site
 

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How is it my fault, I made no account changes? Also, did you receive it from your friend? If so, could you please have him get the account back from Plarium or at least provide me with the necessary info?
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
How is it my fault, I made no account changes? Also, did you receive it from your friend? If so, could you please have him get the account back from Plarium or at least provide me with the necessary info?
why did u open support ticket with them then? they banned it for u because ur not the owner, thats how it works, they ban accounts that are gained with rule breaking, that is not my fault, nobody goes bragging to anyone, even to friends that he purchased the account, eventually someone reports it and it will be banned, in this case u went to plarium support itself to get it banned, i dont know ive just never ever in my life heard someone asking for ban
 
What are you talking about? I did nothing but log in to play. How did I brag? Show me proof. How did I ask for a ban? Now you are deflecting it to me. Now I am very suspicious of why 2 buyers asked for their money back on PayPal.
 
This is the private message that I received from Joppe08222

i dont want ur money sorry man, u have gotten it banned, ur blaming this one me, ur doing it wrong man, my friend is original owner of the acc but it was purchased from chinese site as starter with few legendarys from beginning, the dispute must be solved now. lets wait til some mod checks in and helps this situation, just amazin how ur blaming this on me.
 
he first mentions that he got it from his friend and now his friend got it from a Chinese seller. I just want this to be settled and Joppe08222 to get the information from his friend. He accuses me of bragging yet where is the proof? He says I violated the terms of service, but he is the one that sold the account to me. Kind of ironic isn't it moderaters?
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
This is the private message that I received from Joppe08222

i dont want ur money sorry man, u have gotten it banned, ur blaming this one me, ur doing it wrong man, my friend is original owner of the acc but it was purchased from chinese site as starter with few legendarys from beginning, the dispute must be solved now. lets wait til some mod checks in and helps this situation, just amazin how ur blaming this on me.
i suggest u posting all of the conversation not just what i sayd because it seems like ive done something wrong, let me do it myself.

what im saying is that the email u received is gotten after u make a recovery to account, they ask exact same info. u tried to recover the account lol and it got banned until its verification is done, its ur fault. there are risks on buying accounts and also selling and trading, they can be banned
it clearly says u tried to recover acc and they banned u for it because they see its being traded, stop blaming me in ur own actions please, no need for this
 

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I did no such thing to make a recovery of an account. This is ridiculous. How does this person even know that I tried to make a recovery? It seems that he keeps adding more information to backpedal. If this is the tactics you're trying with no evidence then I will continue with Wise and my bank to get my money back.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
I did no such thing to make a recovery of an account. This is ridiculous. How does this person even know that I tried to make a recovery? It seems that he keeps adding more information to backpedal. If this is the tactics you're trying with no evidence then I will continue with Wise and my bank to get my money back.
but u opened recovery support ticket from them lol, u have the acc, u got it banned urself
 
I waited over 12 hours for you to respond before I filed a dispute. You wouldn't contact your friend for any information and just blame me so I have already emailed Wise and I will be contacting them tomorrow at 10 am EST, 5 pm your time. I have a ticket number.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
They're the ones who sent me that. I have not reached out to them. You are such a scammer.
never heard that they contact u, lets wait some mod help us. this is not going nowhere but arguement, incase ill let u know i go sleep so i wont reply for about 8h
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
@Joppe08222 is it possible for you to contact the OO?
its a purchased acc from chinese website but he told the site doesnt work anymore, its purchased long long time ago, as u see yjhahm has requested recovery ticket himself, this is not my fault or previous owner fault, acc was purchased as starter with few legendary units like most sites sell here like megame007, the person who purchased must have caused the ban himself. the picture he shows says clearly that he has submitted recovery ticket for account, why did he do it? and recovery tickets as such info i asked around so raid support locks out accounts that are being traded around, cant be my fault, only his, what he did, i dont know but like screen says he submitted recovery account ticket
 
In these situations, when support responds with no info as to what got the account banned, we go for 50% refund as there is no way to prove who or what got the account banned.

If you can manage to get the information requested, no refund would be required.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
In these situations, when support responds with no info as to what got the account banned, we go for 50% refund as there is no way to prove who or what got the account banned.

If you can manage to get the information requested, no refund would be required.
well thats just unfair, maybe u can ask from known people who deal raids accounts if they know what is it? because its very unfair to be asking money from me because of his fault, its so clear to read that he requested account recovery ticket and i know from my hand exactly that when recovery is requested, these are the questions they ask to recover acc back. please ask around from ppl who deal raid, it cant be my blame that hes banned
 
Moderators,

I don't know what Joppe08222 is trying to pull, but he reached out and told me that he is willing to give 50% refund. I agreed and now he is saying that he also wants the account back. If I was able to get on the account, there would be no need for a dispute. I don't know what more to prove that this person is a scammer. I told him that I am done with him. I will no longer be communicating with him.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
Moderators,

I don't know what Joppe08222 is trying to pull, but he reached out and told me that he is willing to give 50% refund. I agreed and now he is saying that he also wants the account back. If I was able to get on the account, there would be no need for a dispute. I don't know what more to prove that this person is a scammer. I told him that I am done with him. I will no longer be communicating with him.
correct, why would u need the acc still, i wanna solve this but ur acting weird urself, insulting me to scammer when u have the account, what did i scam from u actually? tell me what i scammed off u? nothing, u got the acc and its banned and by checking the ban message its diffrent acc

can u provide me the uid of the acc, i can check if its the same acc, friend give me id pic
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
@yjhahm account needs to be returned to get 50% refund, once a refund and the account is issued this can be closed.
i offered him refund but he not take it
someone just added me with Rіkku#2530 discord and pretended to be yjhahm and tried to cheat me for 125 usd
 

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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
i wrote plarium message, hopefully get some positive news and can solve this situation!
 
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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
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cant see msg for some reason
 
i can take the account from the buyer and hold it until you refund the 50% to them. then return the account to you.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
i can take the account from the buyer and hold it until you refund the 50% to them. then return the account to you.
this good, lemme kno when u got acc and confirm ban msg
 
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@yjhahm can you please send me the account info privaltey so i can change email/pass and Joppe will refund you 50%?
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
@yjhahm can you please send me the account info privaltey so i can change email/pass and Joppe will refund you 50%?
did u take picture of profile unique player id on profile of the acc when u middlemenned
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
ARMIK: let him refund 50% first, and have the victim return the account to him. do not ban before refund is issued. this guy refused paypal and didnt want anything but wise. saying he has had lots of scammers in the past and such.
wtf ?
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/please-do-not-purchase-from-joppe08222.2100404/
so i refund and still get ban, okai i sii... not my fault even
 
Joppe08222 story does not make sense. I asked for evidence, it was not provided and he's contradicting his own statements. He has now been banned until I can confirm more info.
 
I received a private message that Joppe08222 is claiming that he gave me the account back. Excuse me what?! Not to my knowledge. If Joppe08222 did recover the account that is great, but it would lead to another issue, which is this whole dispute was about getting the account back. If I did receive the account back (which I haven't), I would rather have the account and not receive a refund. Joppe08222 even told me in a private message that he was going to sell his main account to give me a refund which I replied back asking him not to because I never want to result in that. I really do not know what is going on now and I figured that I ended this conversation going out with a loss of account.
 
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