Paypal charge back, user is currently trying to sell the account

[ImRevenant]

Information
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Purchase Date: 1/3/21
Date the problem begain: 1/24/21
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: vvorno (who is now banned but has created a new account)
Your Instant Messenger ID: Imrevenant

Other information:
Sold the account via trade guardian. User is now trying to refund the amount.

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts...54-13k-gems-3-5mil-mora-tons-of-mats.1825677/
Approximate value of property: $775 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? #31792

What is the dispute about? Paypal charge back

Other details / notes:
Sold the account via trade guardian. User is now trying to refund the amount. The new account is duluc. Here is the current tread. https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sold.1840945/. He has just taken his post down after I asked him about this incident.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): I will supply screenshots
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:

 

[ImRevenant]

 

[ImRevenant]

User has taken account down, now that I asked. Says it was sold but removed content from the post instead of putting the post as sold.

 

[ImRevenant]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

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  ImRevenant 33 minutes ago
  • https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-na-whale-account-28x5-ar-54-most-5.1840945/
    
    Hey, you bought this account from me and your other account got banned. Now why are you trying to refund scam me? I still have the post of the transaction and will be giving it to paypal. But I would like to know why?
    
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• duluc 32 minutes ago
  
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    ?
    
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    i did not buy this from you
    
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    https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-na--account-28x5--ar-54-3-5mil-mora-tons-of-mats.1839412/
    
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• ImRevenant 28 minutes ago
  
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    Where did you buy this from?
    
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• duluc 22 minutes ago
  
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    i bought it off of him on discord
    
    
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• ImRevenant 22 minutes ago
  
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    Who?
    
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    If this is true send me screenshots
    
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• duluc 21 minutes ago
  
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    vvorno
    
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• ImRevenant 19 minutes ago
  
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    When did you buy it? and supply screenshots.
    
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• duluc 18 minutes ago
  
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    im not sure i have to
    
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• ImRevenant 17 minutes ago
  
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    That's fine, I'll take this to a mod. vvorno was banned the same day you created this account. I know it was you.
    
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• duluc 16 minutes ago
  
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    i'll send the mods the info, not you
    
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• ImRevenant 13 minutes ago
  
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    what is vvorno's discord? and i'll talk to him
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    LOL you took your post down
    

duluc 7 minutes ago

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  no. its sold.
  
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  his discord is Mezzo#1105
  
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  he blocked me

 

[ImRevenant]

They also said they bought the account a month ago, but vvorno (the user they "bought" it from) didn't put it for sale till last week. So the time line doesn't make sense. Here was there post they made trying to sell my account I sold to them. https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-na-🐋-account-28x5-⭐-ar-54-3-5mil-mora-tons-of-mats.1839412/

 

[duluc]

Banned - Banned - vvorno

I have no idea who this person...

 

[ImRevenant]

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I have no idea who this person...

Do you have any proof that you aren’t the same person? If you’re not then show your discord messages between you and vvorno, or your payment to him for $750.

 

[duluc]

Banned - Banned - vvorno

Seriously dumbfounded by this person.

 

[ImRevenant]

Seriously dumbfounded by this person.

What kind of person are you? You're literally removing all pictures from the posts and the post information itself. You know you're the same person, but for some reason think its okay to act like a victim. It's so depressing to see someone like you.

 

[duluc]

Banned - Banned - vvorno

What kind of person are you? You're literally removing all pictures from the posts and the post information itself. You know you're the same person, but for some reason think its okay to act like a victim. It's so depressing to see someone like you.

Let's think about this logically. If what you say is true, then why am I here responding to you instead of just making another account? Your "proof" is my registration date and marking my post as sold?

 

[ImRevenant]

Let's think about this logically. If what you say is true, then why am I here responding to you instead of just making another account? Your "proof" is my registration date and marking my post as sold?

I would love to be wrong, but you have yet to supply even 1 bit of evidence that you're not the person. So please, if this isn't you PROVE it in someway, other then "I don't know this person". You clearly said via the chat in EpicNPC that you bought it from vvorno, so you should have that chat. On top of that you should have some proof of payment to them. So lets think logically, if someone is called into question, the inital respose should be "I have nothing to do with this and here is why," because you're being accused of something you "didn't do". Also my evidence is that you removed your posts and as soon as I point out the old post/screenshots from the vvorno post, the pictures magically get removed from imgr. Even though they were there when I typed that link in chat.

 

[duluc]

Banned - Banned - vvorno

I would love to be wrong, but you have yet to supply even 1 bit of evidence that you're not the person. So please, if this isn't you PROVE it in someway, other then "I don't know this person". You clearly said via the chat in EpicNPC that you bought it from vvorno, so you should have that chat. On top of that you should have some proof of payment to them. So lets think logically, if someone is called into question, the inital respose should be "I have nothing to do with this and here is why," because you're being accused of something you "didn't do". Also my evidence is that you removed your posts and as soon as I point out the old post/screenshots from the vvorno post, the pictures magically get removed from imgr. Even though they were there when I typed that link in chat.

Are you forgetting that I don't know you. You're a complete stranger asking me about my transactions. Seriously, you're wasting everyone's time.

 

[ImRevenant]

Are you forgetting that I don't know you. You're a complete stranger asking me about my transactions. Seriously, you're wasting everyone's time.

Can you not cover any sensitive information? Seriously, whats the point of acting innocent if I was wrong you could EASILY prove it, but yet you don't. All you have done is just deflect.

 

[duluc]

Banned - Banned - vvorno

Just wait for a mod. I'm not showing you anything.

 

[ImRevenant]

I have proof that Duluc is vvorno. I have contacted the user “YouAreAScumBag” who recently sold an account to Duluc. Here is that thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/personal-dark-aether-account-warzone-too.1831209/
I asked him to verify the email Duluc used to buy the account and it’s the exact same he used to buy mine. The $300 transaction is provided by “YouAreAScumBag” and the $775 is of course mine from the account he bought.

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

Not only that i remember the account he was trying to sell for $650 or something like that that he said he got for $775 and was selling at a loss due to "not having enough time to play" which made no sense as my account is also a gaming acc and was for his personal use

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

you dont have to change the region to play. at all and games are cheaper in the region its set at. He only wants this done to possibly stop any attempts to recover the account as activision uses uses region and govt id to verify if the acc holder is in that region or not

 

[ImRevenant]

I also reached out to Viral_23, who also sold an account to Duluc and they ALSO confirmed its the same person. The email/business account they used to buy there account is the same one trying to charge back my account. Here is that account post and the picture given to me Viral_23 as proof of payment
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/cod...an-account-s0-s6-all-platforms-cheap.1845311/

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

I did not even recover my old acc and he said i recovered it as if you can recover a full access account that quick, safe to say this guy is a ****ing scammer. I will begin the recovery process today. I dont get why people scam like this. What a pos move and they guy is not from germany. Hes from the Philippines im pretty sure.

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

funny how i have no emails from activision but yeah i recovered the account. BAN this guy and all the ips that he has used.

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

there is all you need to know guys.

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

Trying to manipulate me with all the evidence right in front of me. You cant edit mobile paypal statements which is why i asked the guy to screenshot from mobile specially an iphone. and its from the app gtfo scammer.

 

[Viral_23]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/activision-account-recovered-after-purchase-by-viral_23.1906947/

I also reached out to Viral_23, who also sold an account to Duluc and they ALSO confirmed its the same person. The email/business account they used to buy there account is the same one trying to charge back my account. Here is that account post and the picture given to me Viral_23 as proof of payment
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/cod...an-account-s0-s6-all-platforms-cheap.1845311/

Yes I can confirm, he has not yet tried to refund his payment for my account but seeing this much proof I can only imagine that he was planning on it

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

Yes I can confirm, he has not yet tried to refund his payment for my account but seeing this much proof I can only imagine that he was planning on it

Not only that why was he buying multiple cod accounts to begin with? High value accounts. This seriously reeks of a scam and all the evidence is right there.

 

[YouAreAScumBag]

Just to let you know my bank already knows about your chargeback scheme. Dont even try it.

 

[Angel]

Duluc has been banned

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