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Original owner of account petitioned account be returned after purchase...

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Dispute Date: 09/20/2013 - Date of transaction 3/28/2013
Method of Contact Used: Skype/EPICNPC forums
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: harber.com (Skype)
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing : Harbertown
Your Instant Messenger ID: Shishikura (skype) - displayed as
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Other information: Skype displays the persons personal cellphone number, area of residence and full name. It has been edited out for their privacy.

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? Service - User petitioned account to be returned to them. Qoute from email from CCP -
We have received a complaint from the original owner of the account "jpharber", which you are in possession of at the moment.

Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/eve-online-a...g-ultima-online-gold-maybe-cash-buy-gold.html
Approximate value of property: $450.00 USD

Was a middleman used? Yes
If yes, who? Geeks / Hack0si View Profile: Geek - Trade WoW Accounts Buy Sell - EpicNPC
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: I received an email stating that the account I bought from said user is currently locked/banned and that CCP has received a complaint from the original owner of said account (account name partially has the users name in it, first two letters omitted). Now I thought I was in good terms with said user, we even held communications weeks down the line about EVE Online and chatting casually, said user even asked if I was using the account and if I was transferring the toon. I did not have any other accounts at that time so I used the current account. Said user communicated understanding (note- this was days after the transaction).

Here is the email I received from CCP regarding the account: http://i.imgur.com/wPRDBzr.png
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: Skype, please see screenshots of conversations on IMGUR (Cannot sort the images correctly, sorry :x ) Dispute - Imgur. Hack0si/Geek is the middleman, he had us in a three way conversation and I unfortunately do not have the log on that, I will get in contact with Hack0si/Geek if he still has it or if he can confirm this for me.
Pictures/Screenshots: Uploaded chat screenshots are on IMGUR Dispute - Imgur
Other proof: Paypal transaction - Partial emails blotted out http://i.imgur.com/fkGFXh0.png


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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? This is my first one :(
 
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Got in touch with Harbertown via skype, we're communicating right now to see what we can do, it seemed he made an honest mistake and we're trying to resolve it at this time.


I will update when necessary and asked him to post in the thread as well to verify.
 
Thankyou. Please Keep us updated
 
I was able to verify that the account I had purchased is active and back in his hands, seems he was able to log onto it and reactivate it (He added something to the characters Skill Queue as seen here, this would display an error if the account was inactive: eveboard - Asred Khan , also looks like he transferred some currency into the account as well which seems odd if he plans on returning it to me... ) So I am a bit concerned. Yesterday and the day afterwards we had conversations about how to make money in game and pvp so hopefully there is no malintent currently...

I'll try to get a hold of him later this afternoon when I get home, I am able to send messages to him on skype but he is currently not online. If possible, we can sort out the transfer, hopefully without any complications.
 
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Got a really bad feeling about this, aside from not following up on the forums after asking him, hes made multiple changes to his skype account (changed the location, phone number and even the website. One does not move to Brazil over night.) He sent me this message http://i.imgur.com/Qy1Ggdc.png this morning. Note the change from his profile from a few days ago, hes stripped his contacts as well... http://i.imgur.com/xLM37Hf.png .

Now I could just be giving the benefit of the doubt but 30 days wait to get the toon back is quite some time as well, its also well beyond the 6 month mark for possible returns of funds, and the inconsistencies with his actions and general bad vibe I get is getting to me. I am prepared to have paypal reverse the payment and the bank says they can do the same. As much as I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt or additional time to respond, I am at wits end. What should I do? I know he frequents this website often, and I worry about the other transactions that hes completed with other people.

EPICAdmin/Mods, i'd love some input.


I am posting a follow up conversation on pastebin with ALL conversations so far, I can update this post with screen shots later as I am at work.

Shishikura & Harber - Pastebin.com
 
No contact from Harbertown as of today. Pretty sure the character I bought had his assets (ships) and Isk (money) cleared out. I know for sure that the isk has been wiped out by checking eveboard ( eveboard - Asred Khan and imgur photo backup as this can change... http://i.imgur.com/4jv9MnD.png) as I had roughly 100m isk on it. Wish there was a way to check assets, as I had a Proteus, T2 fit ferox along with a T2 cloaky industrial transport and other assorted mods/ships.

Hopefully my subscription payment information is not accessible.

My bank has proceeded with reversing the charges as this is already suspicious of fraud and Paypal has already escalated the investigation.

@ TheGameSupply,

The seller agreed to sell the entire account when I initially bought it as I didn't have any Eve accounts to transfer it to, it would have probably been in my best interest to create a new account to transfer the toon to, but if he petitioned the account, the transfer may have been reversed in the first place.
 
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ban in 24 hrs

also what's his Paypal email address? Seems he logged in to change his email address so I couldn't post it which means he probably has no desire to resolve this.
 
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Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
Harbertown has been banned, Failed to resolve this.
 
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