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<span style="font-size: 11pt">Alright this could be a long story at some point, but I am going to make short right now.

On 1/7/2009, I bought a Paladin from TwiztidSoulz -- http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...Pal#Post2175439 .

On 1/9/2009, that Paladin was traded to a friend of mine, MD Name "TheProf" - AIM: strongkid2258 for his Death Knight.

On 1/16/2009, that Death Knight was sold to MD Name "DSheriff" - AIM: Whiskeyjackzz for an undisclosed amount.

Today, 1/22/2009, the Death Knight was recalled and the following conversation ensued:

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Now, the owner of this Death Knight is named Christopher Boyd - the SAME person that sold me the Paladin. I know this because the Paypal e-mail that I sent the funds for the Paladin is listed as Christopher Boyd in my Paypal Account Activity.

So, I went to go about recalling my Paladin and sure enough I find the account is under "phone lock". The only way that is possible is if the original owner faxed in his/her ID. I am sure that Mr. Boyd had a hand in this.

Thus far, I have sent DSheriff his money back and I will be recalling the funds that I sent to Christopher Boyd.

At this point, that is all I have. As I dig deeper into this stream of [censored] and lies, I will let you folks know. </span>
 
Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/407740-theprof-aka-strongkid2258-aka-charlie-nimke-aka-charlienimke%40gmail-com-scammer-2.html
Nice job catchin this guy! Hope you get your money back, sorry that this all happened
 
"Now, the owner of this Death Knight is named Christopher Boyd - the SAME person that sold me the Paladin. I know this because the Paypal e-mail that I sent the funds for the Paladin is listed as Christopher Boyd in my Paypal Account Activity."

Nice team scam you got going on there, kinda funny how this guy is your "friend" yet he has the same name as me on his Death knight that he "traded". If the death knight get's recalled then its back to your friend now aint it.

You even said yourself that the account was "new".


Chat logs
[08:45] ChimpRacer: hi
[08:46] ooknuckleheadoo: Hello. The chargeback was filed due to the fact that the Paladin was phone locked. The only way that can happen is if the Original Owner or someone with his or her ID had faxed it in. Also, there is a DK with your real name on it that was recalled.
[08:46] ooknuckleheadoo: The DK was a separate account.
[08:47] ChimpRacer: i never sold a DK first off
[08:47] ChimpRacer: second off
[08:47] ChimpRacer: I filed with the ic3.gov
[08:47] ChimpRacer: I never recalled phone locked or anything
[08:47] ChimpRacer: I contacted paypal
[08:47] ChimpRacer: I will file with the BBB
[08:47] ChimpRacer: So, whatever you think happened you are mistaken
[08:49] ooknuckleheadoo: Well, your name is not on the account, so it could have been someone else before you. Nonetheless, the account was not secure and was recalled. You can make whatever threats you want and take whatever course of action you choose. It will not change the fact that the account that was sold to me was not secure. Now, if you want to get in contact with the OO and get me that account back, I would be MORE than happy to give you the funds back.
[08:49] ChimpRacer: It was secure, the "name" on the account never had access nor knowledge the account existed.
[08:50] ChimpRacer: So, use your positive feedback as a cushion all you want, I have already filed with the aforementioned.
[08:50] ooknuckleheadoo: Well, best of luck with that. If you ever find out what happened with the account, please let me know.
[09:14] ChimpRacer: So after looking through the scammer section, you said that I had a death knight, I have never had a death knight.
[09:14] ChimpRacer: just to get [censored] straight
[09:15] ooknuckleheadoo: The name on the account matches your Paypal. Even the city/state information did.
[09:15] ChimpRacer: what was the account name
[09:15] ChimpRacer: annd i could tell you
[09:15] ChimpRacer: if it was mine or not
[09:15] ChimpRacer: because
[09:15] ChimpRacer: first off
[09:15] ooknuckleheadoo: let me go look here
[09:16] ChimpRacer: i never had a DK
[09:16] ChimpRacer: second off, the paladin i just sold you was my only account that I had active, I still currently have 2 inactive account with nothing on them
[09:17] ChimpRacer: usarmystrong, twiztidsoulz, and twistidsouls
[09:17] ooknuckleheadoo: Well, I have bought close to 50-60 accounts in the past 3-4 months and I have only problems with 2 of them. Yours was one of them.
[09:17] ChimpRacer: well im telling you striaght up, whatever the [censored] happened I had no part in it
[09:17] ChimpRacer: otherwise I wouldnt be filing with the BBB the ic3 or paypal
[09:18] ooknuckleheadoo: The name on the DK account was imtightjockme...it was a brand new account though.
[09:18] ooknuckleheadoo: so that hardly helps on my end
[09:18] ooknuckleheadoo: nonetheless, the name on the account was Christopher Boyd
[09:18] ChimpRacer: did you give out my paypal information to anyone
[09:19] ooknuckleheadoo: Nope

So out of curiosity, how did your "friend" just so happen to get a brand new death knight with all my information on it? Because you gave it to him.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knucklehead00</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Alright this could be a long story at some point, but I am going to make short right now.

On 1/7/2009, I bought a Paladin from TwiztidSoulz -- http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...Pal#Post2175439 .

On 1/9/2009, that Paladin was traded to a friend of mine, MD Name "TheProf" - AIM: strongkid2258 for his Death Knight.

On 1/16/2009, that Death Knight was sold to MD Name "DSheriff" - AIM: Whiskeyjackzz for an undisclosed amount.

Today, 1/22/2009, the Death Knight was recalled and the following conversation ensued:

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Now, the owner of this Death Knight is named Christopher Boyd - the SAME person that sold me the Paladin. I know this because the Paypal e-mail that I sent the funds for the Paladin is listed as Christopher Boyd in my Paypal Account Activity.

So, I went to go about recalling my Paladin and sure enough I find the account is under "phone lock". The only way that is possible is if the original owner faxed in his/her ID. I am sure that Mr. Boyd had a hand in this.

Thus far, I have sent DSheriff his money back and I will be recalling the funds that I sent to Christopher Boyd.

At this point, that is all I have. As I dig deeper into this stream of [censored] and lies, I will let you folks know. </span> </div></div>

quoting his original words before he has a chance to edit them.
 
no one asked you what you "think", there's evidence posted.
I don't care if you "dont think knuckles would make a false accusation", because I was wrongfully accused. Not to mention the fact that My paladin changes hands 3 times in a matter of 2 days. You dont think that sends a red flag up on the blizzard databases?

just as an added note he said that the "OO" recalled it. The funny thing is, I purchased the original account over a year ago with the shaman on it. This can be seen in my feedback. I then decided to prevent it from being recalled to transfer the shaman to a new account. The ironic thing is, in order for THIS account to get banned or recalled the real OO would have had to have recalled the original account to see the list of transfer right? To this end I attempted to get the account banned permanently so the "real" oo would have no way of retrieving any information concerning a transfer. To this end, I still have access to the original account, and if a moderator cared to investigate this, I can provide proof of such although it is under review and has been since...wait for it....since I transferred the shaman off. So OO recalled my [censored].

Not too mention, this account went from me to knuckles, to theprof who then tried to sell/trade it for a mage. And yet you call me out?
 
First off you ppl need to know who you are dealing with before you try and distort your way of interpreting the facts. Knuckle in no way is a lier/scammer/ untrustworthy person. He has been in the buying/selling/trading business for a longtime and has the support of the Legit MD community as well as key ppl within the MD hierarchy. You do not achieve that status by being deceitful or a lier.
We sometimes jump the gun on way we believe to be the truth and think we can interject into something that quite frankly you have no clear understanding of.
There are very few Legit ppl left around here that do solid business and Knuckle is one of them. I consider him a close friend and will do anything I can for him based on his character and his merit.
I have grandchildren that act more adult than most of you here. Trust me when I say that Knuckle will do everything he can as he already has to make this whole without compromising his integrity.

The other parties involved can get paypal/their local agencies involved but trust me when I say you better have solid ground and a strong leg to stand on if you plan to fight something that you believe to be fact and not what the facts clearly are.
And again I say and you all can quote me on this, ppl will come out of the woodwork to support a friend so in closing you better pick your battles carefully and from what I see Knuckle is doing everything in his power to rectify this situation but for Gods sake do not let this be made out to be something it is not.
I am in this business as well and will do everything I can for my customers as they all know that have dealt with me and my staff. We are trained to go the extra mile as a very close friend of mine here does for all his friends/customers.

Note: MD has become more of a harder place to do safe/Legit business because scammers are getting smarter and more cunning but trust me in time, that will change. There are laws that do protect the Legit in business in every state in the land so you that hide behind your monitors watch your behinds because all it takes is one person to have the money and time to bring you done and your next step is that hard knock at your door with your local Law-Enforcement Agency hauling your scamming/lying arse to jail/prison and being made a fool of in court over a game that we all love and enjoy.
 
I get what your saying, and respect the fact that you are trying to help your friend, but by no means did I distory or misinterpret any facts. I merely posted what is. I did not scam knucklehead00. If I honest to god was a scammer then why would I file a complaint through the IC3.gov which Mr. jeffery here has a notice of in his inbox, along with a complaint through the BBB and attempting to defend myself with paypal? Why would I do that if I was GUILTY? So they could look at it and say "Well it looks like Mr. boyd is a scammer...why would he file"?

He claims that not only did I/have someone "phone-lock" the paladin, but that I also sold a Death Knight with the same name. According to his own words he traded MY paladin to a FRIEND of his. Except for some reason the death knight has the same account information as mine? I thought this was his friend.

Show me where your friend got his Death Knight (whether it be created by him or purchased) and I would like to believe that might just clear some [censored] up. Like I said, although my name was not on the account, the person who's name it was had no knowledge and still doesn't that the account exists. Maybe because the account went from me to you, to your friend and the apparently you tried to recall it all within a span of 3 days? You dont think it might have gotten locked?

Bottom line, if I sell you a car and you get it towed because you parked it in the wrong spot, why am I responsible for the fee?
 
I am confused also...

Lets see:

1) TwiztidSoulz sold the PALADIN to Knucklehead00.
2) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was traded for TwiztidSoulz's PALADIN
3) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was recalled..

And that would make TheProf a recaller, I don't see a connection.

EDIT:

We're missing a step of TwiztidSoulz selling a DK to The Pro. Where did DK come from?!
 
that just the problem, I have never had a DK in my entire WoW gaming. Ever. Knucklehead00 is saying that the Death Knight has all my information on it, but like I said I never had a death knight so idk...
 
Banned - posting as Toonvendor - http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-euro-accounts-auctions-buy-sell/480654-*removed*.html
confusing
 
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Bout time you gave up trading knuckle. Things haven't been going your way lately.</span></span>
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First off you ppl need to know who you are dealing with before you try and distort your way of interpreting the facts. Knuckle in no way is a lier/scammer/ untrustworthy person. He has been in the buying/selling/trading business for a longtime and has the support of the Legit MD community as well as key ppl within the MD hierarchy. You do not achieve that status by being deceitful or a lier.
We sometimes jump the gun on way we believe to be the truth and think we can interject into something that quite frankly you have no clear understanding of.
There are very few Legit ppl left around here that do solid business and Knuckle is one of them. <span style="font-weight: bold">I consider him a close friend</span> and will do anything I can for him based on his character and his merit.
I have grandchildren that act more adult than most of you here. Trust me when I say that Knuckle will do everything he can as he already has to make this whole without compromising his integrity.

The other parties involved can get paypal/their local agencies involved but trust me when I say you better have solid ground and a strong leg to stand on if you plan to fight something that you believe to be fact and not what the facts clearly are.
And again I say and you all can quote me on this, ppl will come out of the woodwork to support a friend so in closing you better pick your battles carefully and from what I see Knuckle is doing everything in his power to rectify this situation but for Gods sake do not let this be made out to be something it is not.
I am in this business as well and will do everything I can for my customers as they all know that have dealt with me and my staff. We are trained to go the extra mile as a very close friend of mine here does for all his friends/customers.

Note: MD has become more of a harder place to do safe/Legit business because scammers are getting smarter and more cunning but trust me in time, that will change. There are laws that do protect the Legit in business in every state in the land so you that hide behind your monitors watch your behinds because all it takes is one person to have the money and time to bring you done and your next step is that hard knock at your door with your local Law-Enforcement Agency hauling your scamming/lying arse to jail/prison and being made a fool of in court over a game that we all love and enjoy. </div></div>
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A lot has changed since your little tif a week ago eh?. People have very short memory spans around here.</span></span>
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kodeclay</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First off you ppl need to know who you are dealing with before you try and distort your way of interpreting the facts. Knuckle in no way is a lier/scammer/ untrustworthy person. He has been in the buying/selling/trading business for a longtime and has the support of the Legit MD community as well as key ppl within the MD hierarchy. You do not achieve that status by being deceitful or a lier.
We sometimes jump the gun on way we believe to be the truth and think we can interject into something that quite frankly you have no clear understanding of.
There are very few Legit ppl left around here that do solid business and Knuckle is one of them. <span style="font-weight: bold">I consider him a close friend</span> and will do anything I can for him based on his character and his merit.
I have grandchildren that act more adult than most of you here. Trust me when I say that Knuckle will do everything he can as he already has to make this whole without compromising his integrity.

The other parties involved can get paypal/their local agencies involved but trust me when I say you better have solid ground and a strong leg to stand on if you plan to fight something that you believe to be fact and not what the facts clearly are.
And again I say and you all can quote me on this, ppl will come out of the woodwork to support a friend so in closing you better pick your battles carefully and from what I see Knuckle is doing everything in his power to rectify this situation but for Gods sake do not let this be made out to be something it is not.
I am in this business as well and will do everything I can for my customers as they all know that have dealt with me and my staff. We are trained to go the extra mile as a very close friend of mine here does for all his friends/customers.

Note: MD has become more of a harder place to do safe/Legit business because scammers are getting smarter and more cunning but trust me in time, that will change. There are laws that do protect the Legit in business in every state in the land so you that hide behind your monitors watch your behinds because all it takes is one person to have the money and time to bring you done and your next step is that hard knock at your door with your local Law-Enforcement Agency hauling your scamming/lying arse to jail/prison and being made a fool of in court over a game that we all love and enjoy. </div></div>
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A lot has changed since your little tif a week ago eh?. People have very short memory spans around here.</span></span> </div></div>

If I were you I would not open that can Kode, leave well enough alone. I am quite frankly getting really sick of idiots like you fessing up bs that is no longer an issue and really was not to begin with. Go be a hero in a place where that crap is welcome and not on a thread you have no business posting on. Keep to the facts of this case and do not sway from the truth and this is not confusing if you know the party invovled.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kodeclay</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First off you ppl need to know who you are dealing with before you try and distort your way of interpreting the facts. Knuckle in no way is a lier/scammer/ untrustworthy person. He has been in the buying/selling/trading business for a longtime and has the support of the Legit MD community as well as key ppl within the MD hierarchy. You do not achieve that status by being deceitful or a lier.
We sometimes jump the gun on way we believe to be the truth and think we can interject into something that quite frankly you have no clear understanding of.
There are very few Legit ppl left around here that do solid business and Knuckle is one of them. <span style="font-weight: bold">I consider him a close friend</span> and will do anything I can for him based on his character and his merit.
I have grandchildren that act more adult than most of you here. Trust me when I say that Knuckle will do everything he can as he already has to make this whole without compromising his integrity.

The other parties involved can get paypal/their local agencies involved but trust me when I say you better have solid ground and a strong leg to stand on if you plan to fight something that you believe to be fact and not what the facts clearly are.
And again I say and you all can quote me on this, ppl will come out of the woodwork to support a friend so in closing you better pick your battles carefully and from what I see Knuckle is doing everything in his power to rectify this situation but for Gods sake do not let this be made out to be something it is not.
I am in this business as well and will do everything I can for my customers as they all know that have dealt with me and my staff. We are trained to go the extra mile as a very close friend of mine here does for all his friends/customers.

Note: MD has become more of a harder place to do safe/Legit business because scammers are getting smarter and more cunning but trust me in time, that will change. There are laws that do protect the Legit in business in every state in the land so you that hide behind your monitors watch your behinds because all it takes is one person to have the money and time to bring you done and your next step is that hard knock at your door with your local Law-Enforcement Agency hauling your scamming/lying arse to jail/prison and being made a fool of in court over a game that we all love and enjoy. </div></div>
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A lot has changed since your little tif a week ago eh?. People have very short memory spans around here.</span></span> </div></div>

If I were you I would not open that can Kode, leave well enough alone. I am quite frankly getting really sick of idiots like you fessing up bs that is no longer an issue and really was not to begin with. Go be a hero in a place where that crap is welcome and not on a thread you have no business posting on. Keep to the facts of this case and do not sway from the truth and this is not confusing if you know the party invovled. </div></div>

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Aww, getting a little butt hurt are we?. Sorry bud but you cant sweep your past under the carpet, try not dumping your crap on your so called "friends" and it wont come back to haunt you.

I just find it very funny you have the audacity to comment on anyone else's actions on this forum when you turned into a 12 year old immature kid over a 65$ debt.

Gl scrub.
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You do not have a clue what you even talking about and you deserve a bann for being a trouble maker. You have something to say tough guy you can see my aim in my sig. Let Knuckle handle his business. You jumped on this thread for what reason, I would love to hear it.

You are nothing Kode, look in the mirror, you post all over MD thinking your opinion means something, makes you look like a trouble maker kid.

This is not your thread and not mine, you have a rant about me post it there and see where it goes. I enjoy the harassment.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You do not have a clue what you even talking about and you deserve a <span style="font-weight: bold">bann</span> </div></div>
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Please learn to spell. There is even a spell checker for people like you.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
for being a trouble maker. You have something to say tough guy you can see my aim in my sig. Let Knuckle handle his business. <span style="font-weight: bold">You jumped on this thread for what reason, I would love to hear it.</span></div></div>
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Why exactly are you on this thread, please tell me what this has to do with you?. Pot kettle.... enough said.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HSViper11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are nothing Kode, look in the mirror, you post all over MD thinking your opinion means something, makes you look like a trouble maker kid.

This is not your thread and not mine, you have a rant about me post it there and see where it goes. I enjoy the harassment. </div></div>
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And yet I'm not the one that treats my friends like dirt over 65$. Please continue posting, you're cementing MD's white trash image of you further and further with every post.


Have a nice day.</span></span>
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vampire</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am confused also...

Lets see:

1) TwiztidSoulz sold the PALADIN to Knucklehead00.
2) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was traded for TwiztidSoulz's PALADIN
3) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was recalled..

And that would make TheProf a recaller, I don't see a connection.

EDIT:

We're missing a step of TwiztidSoulz selling a DK to The Pro. Where did DK come from?!
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Where the DK came from.

Well being my experience, Of course, Im not picking anysides.

What most people do, (Of course, Im going to use qoutations, Because Im confused right now, Its early for me)

Now, Where did the DK come from? My geuss is that this "Paladin" account. Of course was WOTLK enabled obviously.

But yet the have the same full name on the account?

The paladin account, A DK was created, The paladin was transferred off, Hence where there is two accounts with the full name on it. A death knight one, And a Paladin one.

Thats probably why, Not saying it IS, Why he has no idea where the hell this death knight is coming from, Because when he sold this paladin, It could be that someone created a Death knight, Transfered the pally to its own account, and boom. Two accounts with the same name.


Just trying to help.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strikerjojo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vampire</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am confused also...

Lets see:

1) TwiztidSoulz sold the PALADIN to Knucklehead00.
2) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was traded for TwiztidSoulz's PALADIN
3) TheProf's DEATHKNIGHT was recalled..

And that would make TheProf a recaller, I don't see a connection.

EDIT:

We're missing a step of TwiztidSoulz selling a DK to The Pro. Where did DK come from?!
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Where the DK came from.

Well being my experience, Of course, Im not picking anysides.

What most people do, (Of course, Im going to use qoutations, Because Im confused right now, Its early for me)

Now, Where did the DK come from? My geuss is that this "Paladin" account. Of course was WOTLK enabled obviously.

But yet the have the same full name on the account?

The paladin account, A DK was created, The paladin was transferred off, Hence where there is two accounts with the full name on it. A death knight one, And a Paladin one.

Thats probably why, Not saying it IS, Why he has no idea where the hell this death knight is coming from, Because when he sold this paladin, It could be that someone created a Death knight, Transfered the pally to its own account, and boom. Two accounts with the same name.


Just trying to help.
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<span style="font-family: 'Lucida Console'"><span style="color: #999999">That would have to be one hell of a coincidence. 2 accounts originating from the same person end up belong to one person and they both get recalled at the same time, even though the original owner (supposedly because of the phone lock) had no idea the account information recalled them.... Ive seen more plausible things on the X files.</span></span>
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where the DK came from.

Well being my experience, Of course, Im not picking anysides.

What most people do, (Of course, Im going to use qoutations, Because Im confused right now, Its early for me)

Now, Where did the DK come from? My geuss is that this "Paladin" account. Of course was WOTLK enabled obviously.

But yet the have the same full name on the account?

The paladin account, A DK was created, The paladin was transferred off, Hence where there is two accounts with the full name on it. A death knight one, And a Paladin one.

Thats probably why, Not saying it IS, Why he has no idea where the hell this death knight is coming from, Because when he sold this paladin, It could be that someone created a Death knight, Transfered the pally to its own account, and boom. Two accounts with the same name.


Just trying to help.
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The problem with that is although the paladin is originally mine (I created him on a fresh account) the account itself is NOT in my name. The account with the Paladin has the OO first name of Cody.

The death knights account has my name apparently however.

As im sure everyone is well aware of, you are UNABLE to transfer characters to an account that does not have the same name as you.
 
Doesnt have to be EXACT same name thats what im saying.

Last name has to be the same. First name can be Chris, and the other first name be John. (Blizzard allows this due to family memebers playing, etc)

And it probably is one big coincidence, What Im saying is maybe the true original owner, the one that had the paladin to begin with, Recalled it.

He sold it, Someone bought it, Had fun, Created DK, Transferred the paladin off, or DK off, which ever.


The Original owner recalled it, Finds out oh wow, Someone leveled me up a DK! Then uses that same information obviously to that one as well.

Then your wondering, Well how did the true OO know the sq/a to the new paladin account sense it was transferred off to get the newly created account?

Being the TRUE OO, Mailing in ID's, etc. He can easily say he forgot the sq/a and wants it changed, etc.


But of course, Im just throwing all this out there, This probably isnt what happened, But dealing with virtual goods and not Face to Face, You gotta think of all possibilities.
 
Im telling you the original owner did NOT recall the account, because I STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL AND IT IS STILL LOCKED. I CAN PROVIDE PROOF. Check it

Also, editing because apparently there is a discrepancy, the paladin was never anyone else's. I CREATED the paladin at level one myself. I created this paladin on a fresh account that I created MYSELF. The only link to the original account, is the transferred shaman and the name.

1) I buy a shaman on here. Cody is the OO.
2) I transfer the shaman to a new account. Although I create the account, it is not my name. Cody has no knowledge of this.
3) I create a paladin. I level him to 80
4) To prevent the OO from KNOWING the transfer information, I get the original account banned.
5) Not only do I still have the original account, but it is still banned and I can provide proof.
6) My question is, the TRUE OO has NO knowledge whatsoever that any of this occured, in fact does not know that the SHAMAN I purchased from him ever even left the account.

So, please explain how the OO can recall an account (without changing the P/W) and get access to another account that he has no knowledge of?
 
He doesnt have to change the password to the original. He doesnt have to do ANYTHING to the original paladin account actually, Take that account completely out of the picture, Lets think it NEVER existed.

Lets say Cody is a scammer from hell.

Hes scammed numerous accounts, and hes gonna go on another scammer run.


Cody wakes up, Has the sperm filled scammer cereal. Then says, Hey, Ima scam some accounts today, and buy me some noob shoes so I can lewk kewl!



He gets on the phone. Call blizzard. "Hi, My name is Cody, Me and my brother have multiple WoW accounts, He forgot the name to his, Can you give us our user names?" (If you can remember Blizzard did have that option to FORGOT USERNAME.



Then ol Cody goes about giving the true OO info, And bam, Bye-bye death knight, that and whatever account.

Then, Wait, the original paladin isnt touched you say? Why would you touch anything thats banned/locked. Its no point he says why waste my time! Hes got bigger and better scams to do. Like this death knight, Why scam something which he KNOWS is linked to him directly.



Look man, Im not saying you did it, Im not saying knuckle did it. But you gotta look at EVERYTHING.
 
Strikerjojo, you are completely missing the point. The death knight has CHRISTOPHER BOYD for the account name, the paladin is CODY MCGRATH. TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

After doing some looking found the thread where he got the DK
http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...T7_#Post2157661
(ty Vampire)


Beyond that, I wanted to see where Azyn4lyfe got it. The only thread I can find that is related is
http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...25_#Post2134853

Considering they both have the Mammoth I can only assume...? So azyn4lyfe got it from Rawrior.

So rawrior > azyn4lyfe > theprof > knucklehead > dsheriff
and you blame ME?

edit, after looking a little bit closer, I do not believe that azyn4lyfe got it from rawrior unless either of those two can confirm it themselves.

The death knight from rawrior (post date 12/17/08) has inevitable defeat and no mention of the a traveler mammoth.

The death knight from azyn4lyfe is posted 12/26/08 and does NOT have inevitable defeat. Pretty sure inevitable defeat is better than a titansteel destroyer yet there is no mention of it.

So that leaves two questions.
1) Where did azyn4lyfe get the account from if not rawrior?
2) Assuming he did get it from rawrior, where did RAWRIOR then get it from?

All in all how out of all these people changing hands do you blame me?
 
Yo dude, I'm missing the point?


I think you are, Clearly read up where I come in, I made it clear, This may or not be the point, Im simpling throwing things out to help everyones situation. I even believe the way I came about it, the original owner recalled it. Not you. So where is it anywhere in there "I blame you"?


Last time I try to help anyone.
 
My apologies if I was being rude, I am just frustrated and trying to clear this up both through these forums as well as paypal. I have not gotten a moderator to look at this or the original poster to even respond to any of the information posted. Again my apologies.
 
rawrior = gnome
in question = dwarf

Nothing on MD shows where azyn4lyfe got the DK from, well i didn't research very thoroughly.

Though except Dk, TwiztidSoulz was accused of "phone locking" (whatever that means) the paladin. That's why the payment was charged back.

Ahhh. My head hurts.
 
Knucklehead00 you wanna answer some of this? You go about posting a scammer accusation on me, you post on the scammer thread 30 minutes ago, but you dont have time to take a look at ur own thread?
 
I thought this website was shut down. Paypal closed the investigation with regards to knucklehead, however I am still disputing this through ic3.gov

Outstanding member of the community with feedback or not, I got scammed through this simply by virtue of the fact that he KNEW that my name was not on the account, and therefore no repercussions would befall it magically becoming "locked".
 
Oh I tell you why this is ......

You guys engage in this cluster-[censored] of a trade - someone screws it all up and expect us to sort it out because you guys can't? eh no not gonna happen. I'll notify users but that's as far as it goes. You all need to work it out.
 
Well I understand and apologize for how convoluted this transaction is, I am just frustrated that he immediately recalled the account, chargedback (all without notifying me), and yet when I dug for information, I found that both accounts in question changed hands multiple times within days.

Even if nothing comes of this thread, I am simply trying to clear my name.
 
I vaguely remember this transaction. Going to try my best to give some resolution to it.

A character was sold to me. The character was then traded to another individual. During the time that individual had the account (which was less than a day or two from what I can recall), the account was recalled and the only way to retrieve it would have been to fax in ID. When an account is "phone locked", that means too many retrievals have taken place over the phone and that Blizzard needs to ensure that the account gets back to the Original Owner of the account.

The account being recalled within a 2 week time frame, still holds that the seller is responsible for the account for up to a month if he did not state otherwise. He did not refund because he said it was never recalled. Hence the reason for the chargeback.

I am well within my rights as a buyer to take action against a seller when that seller sells me an unsafe account.

I am not saying that you are the one that recalled it Twiztid, but someone did.

Anyways, that is all I have to add to the matter.

Thank you for your time.
 
your telling me lol. On a side note, not sure if it's true or not, but dsheriff is being accused of being a scammer. If he isn't then its a false accusation but if he is, he also happens to be involved in this transaction as well albeit a while ago. Who knows?
 
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