Information
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Date that sale/trade took place: June 14th 2011
Method of Contact Used: MSN
Instant Messenger ID of other party: [email protected]
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected]
MMOBay Account of other party: CaveManDave
Other information: Mihail_P involved as CaveManDave sold account to him.
Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? Level 85 Paladin World of Warcraft Account
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-euro-accounts-trading-auctions-buy-sell/424251-85-legendary-paladin-~-13085-achievements-~-35-fos-~-39-titles-~-old-zg-mounts-~.html
Approximate value of property: £220
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who? n/a
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong:
I have already had feedback left for this transaction, left on 21/06/2011. In the forum post, I stated "Once sale is completed I will assist with anything that comes up for 4 Weeks (28 Days) UNLESS you have attempted to Trade and/or Sell the World of Warcraft Account". This was well after 28 Days and the account had been resold to a 3rd Party. I do not believe it is my responsibility to give any compensation for this as I offered no guarantee longer than 28 Days.
When Mihail_P and CaveManDave contacted me, I did explain that I made no lifetime guarantee for the account, and have no obligations to do so. During the MSN Conversation CaveManDave was in a raid on a seperate account, with Mihail_P doing most of the talking. Now, considering he is a Pro Seller Premium, I expected a level of professionalism but during the conversation he became rather childish. Also he decided to leave a comment for no good reason on one of my selling threads. Which doesn't speak volumes about being a professional.
I have included the full chat log below, hiding nothing except the account owners name, phone number and email.
Other details / notes:
After receiving the negative, I spoke to CaveManDave (Around 12pm on Friday 04 November 2011) and stated that I am still offering the 85 Paladin as compensation, am currently waiting for him to say something, as he has been quiet for a while.
I am hiding nothing in this thread, I regret that the account was recalled but there are never any guarantees in the account world of 100% safety. I will once again state that I am not a professional seller, I do not charge high prices, I just ask what I feel is fair. I only have 2 accounts left at the moment, and neither are exceptional, so I do not see the point in selling them. I offered the account out of goodwill, but if you read the chat logs, it was snubbed by Mihail_P, despite the fact that I made him fully aware of the differences between us as sellers and that no guarantees were made.
Also, as I have no real obligation, please note I keep contact with everyone who purchases accounts from me no matter how long ago so that they know if they have a problem, I will be available most days to try and help them. Somethings I can help with, somethings I can't or shouldn't help with.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
Other proof:
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBay? Around 30+
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Date that sale/trade took place: June 14th 2011
Method of Contact Used: MSN
Instant Messenger ID of other party: [email protected]
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected]
MMOBay Account of other party: CaveManDave
Other information: Mihail_P involved as CaveManDave sold account to him.
Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? Level 85 Paladin World of Warcraft Account
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-euro-accounts-trading-auctions-buy-sell/424251-85-legendary-paladin-~-13085-achievements-~-35-fos-~-39-titles-~-old-zg-mounts-~.html
Approximate value of property: £220
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who? n/a
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong:
I have already had feedback left for this transaction, left on 21/06/2011. In the forum post, I stated "Once sale is completed I will assist with anything that comes up for 4 Weeks (28 Days) UNLESS you have attempted to Trade and/or Sell the World of Warcraft Account". This was well after 28 Days and the account had been resold to a 3rd Party. I do not believe it is my responsibility to give any compensation for this as I offered no guarantee longer than 28 Days.
When Mihail_P and CaveManDave contacted me, I did explain that I made no lifetime guarantee for the account, and have no obligations to do so. During the MSN Conversation CaveManDave was in a raid on a seperate account, with Mihail_P doing most of the talking. Now, considering he is a Pro Seller Premium, I expected a level of professionalism but during the conversation he became rather childish. Also he decided to leave a comment for no good reason on one of my selling threads. Which doesn't speak volumes about being a professional.
I have included the full chat log below, hiding nothing except the account owners name, phone number and email.
Other details / notes:
After receiving the negative, I spoke to CaveManDave (Around 12pm on Friday 04 November 2011) and stated that I am still offering the 85 Paladin as compensation, am currently waiting for him to say something, as he has been quiet for a while.
I am hiding nothing in this thread, I regret that the account was recalled but there are never any guarantees in the account world of 100% safety. I will once again state that I am not a professional seller, I do not charge high prices, I just ask what I feel is fair. I only have 2 accounts left at the moment, and neither are exceptional, so I do not see the point in selling them. I offered the account out of goodwill, but if you read the chat logs, it was snubbed by Mihail_P, despite the fact that I made him fully aware of the differences between us as sellers and that no guarantees were made.
Also, as I have no real obligation, please note I keep contact with everyone who purchases accounts from me no matter how long ago so that they know if they have a problem, I will be available most days to try and help them. Somethings I can help with, somethings I can't or shouldn't help with.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
30/10/2011 21:52:35 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, [email protected] im adding mihail_p into the convo
30/10/2011 21:52:59 Nerf Twinks [email protected], Dave Manning for what reason?
30/10/2011 21:53:05 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, [email protected] So he can explain
30/10/2011 21:53:07 Nerf Twinks [email protected], Dave Manning hi mish
30/10/2011 21:53:13 Nerf Twinks [email protected], Dave Manning mihail*
30/10/2011 21:54:21 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning hello Nerf
30/10/2011 21:54:21 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning ok, well I talked to Dave
30/10/2011 21:54:29 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning the big lines are this way
30/10/2011 21:54:44 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning this guy that had the Paladin from me is a customer of mine for more than 3 years
30/10/2011 21:54:58 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning this is the first account that had been recalled from him
30/10/2011 21:55:08 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning he had the authentificator on it, he got the recall email on his mail
30/10/2011 21:55:12 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning than acc email and pwd got changed
30/10/2011 21:55:23 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I created a new acc with same name, opened a ticket to ask about the account
30/10/2011 21:55:51 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning blizz replyed that they got an acc recovery form for this account and that if I want it back we ll need a new ID picture over a todays newspapper
30/10/2011 21:55:56 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning so basicaly that s what we need
30/10/2011 21:56:05 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning and preaty soon, as soon as possible
30/10/2011 21:56:16 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning you think you can manage that? the owner is from your country?
30/10/2011 21:56:37 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com owner is czech I tink
30/10/2011 21:56:38 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com think
30/10/2011 21:57:12 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning dave is correct
30/10/2011 21:57:28 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I can give you his phone number, but theres nothing else I can do
30/10/2011 21:57:30 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com sorry im not replying guys in a raid
30/10/2011 21:57:38 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I can tell you his name, and paypal email
30/10/2011 21:57:39 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com I am reading though
30/10/2011 21:58:25 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning sec
30/10/2011 21:58:32 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning one moment, phone call
30/10/2011 21:59:34 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning back
30/10/2011 21:59:49 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well, as you re the reseller and you sold the account, you have to asure account security lifetime
30/10/2011 21:59:59 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning so for us basicly if owner recalled or your recalled is the same thing
30/10/2011 22:00:16 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning and as we have the recall form, and you can call blizzard yourself and they ll confirm that it had been recalled
30/10/2011 22:00:32 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning you have to asure it s security, even if you won t give us the new pic you have to recall it and give it back to us
30/10/2011 22:01:15 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I mean, I bought if from Dave and dave have to asure me of it s security
30/10/2011 22:01:22 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning as well as you have to asure dave of it s security
30/10/2011 22:01:41 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning basicaly if you say that you can t help us with the ID scan you have to replace it with a new account or refund the payment
30/10/2011 22:01:42 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I dont have to assure anything, I made no guarantee, I offered a 28 day guarantee when he bought it and that was along time ago. Its your decision to buy it from him.and is nothing to do with me.
30/10/2011 22:01:55 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning yes
30/10/2011 22:02:01 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning but he got all the rigths to post negatives for you
30/10/2011 22:02:08 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning and I ll vote for him as I m in the midle
30/10/2011 22:02:21 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com guys
30/10/2011 22:02:25 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning 28days guarantee means, in other words, that in 28 days you can recall the acc with no danger?
30/10/2011 22:02:26 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com misha I will repay what you gave me
30/10/2011 22:02:58 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com but Nerf 28 days it needs to be lifetime, the OO should never ever recall. if he does then it shouldnt be an account that is sold
30/10/2011 22:02:58 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Well I gave no guarantee for anything, so i have no reason to help out other than a sense of wanting to do the right thing
30/10/2011 22:03:13 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I can give you the information I have
30/10/2011 22:03:14 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well ok
30/10/2011 22:03:22 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning give me his phone nr and everything else you have
30/10/2011 22:03:39 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning And I can offer the only account I have as a backup if that helps.
30/10/2011 22:04:21 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning But your guarantees are different to mine Mihail. THere is NEVER a 100% recall guarantee, unless you make the account and level it yourself. And then its your responsibility.
30/10/2011 22:04:37 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Sometimes things go well, sometimes there are problems
30/10/2011 22:04:45 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I am just finding the guys name and paypal
30/10/2011 22:04:53 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com guys guys
30/10/2011 22:04:57 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com Lets calm down
30/10/2011 22:05:03 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com None of us have done anything wrong here
30/10/2011 22:05:15 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com We're all in the same boat pretty much
30/10/2011 22:05:58 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I have said all I want to, my offers are here and my information is coming up now..the rest is up to you
30/10/2011 22:06:04 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com ok
30/10/2011 22:06:10 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I am sorry that this has happend though Dave
30/10/2011 22:06:26 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com What's the backup account you speak of Nerf
30/10/2011 22:06:32 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning its my blackwings bane paladin
30/10/2011 22:06:40 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Its not much but it comes with 200k gold
30/10/2011 22:06:48 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning and is the last decent account I have
30/10/2011 22:06:53 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com Misha, would your guy accept that as a compromise?
30/10/2011 22:07:17 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Its no where near as the previous paladin and I cannot guarantee any security
30/10/2011 22:07:59 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning show it to me please
30/10/2011 22:08:11 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well, the security stuff is really bad
30/10/2011 22:08:16 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning there snever 100% at my side aswell
30/10/2011 22:08:18 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning [ACCOUNT OWNER INFO HERE, EMAIL, PHONE, FULL NAME]
30/10/2011 22:08:22 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning but I guarantee to take the risk on myself
30/10/2011 22:08:33 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning means if it s recalled, it s becose I couldn t choose a guy that won t recall
30/10/2011 22:08:40 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I consider it my foult as reseller, if my acc gets recalled
30/10/2011 22:08:51 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning that s why the guy that had paladin from me is getting now a 391ilvl priest for free
30/10/2011 22:08:55 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I expect this from others
30/10/2011 22:09:12 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning Nerf, if I ll get on forums now and , let s say, I won t complain, I will just describe to everyone this situation
30/10/2011 22:09:33 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning that you sell accounts, you offer 28 days guaratee, and i had my acc recalled and you say you can t do anything with that, will that be fine with you?
30/10/2011 22:09:48 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I mean, even sayed in neutral words, that sounds as a negative thing, that s obvious
30/10/2011 22:09:53 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning you can t say you don t see that
30/10/2011 22:10:01 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning The thing is Mihail, im not a pro account reseller like you, I dont guarantee anything because I dont give false promises
30/10/2011 22:10:11 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning ok
30/10/2011 22:10:17 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning but if we ll gona say that on forums, your words
30/10/2011 22:10:23 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Affection @ Wildhammer - Game - World of Warcraft
30/10/2011 22:10:57 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Well if thats what you want to do Mihail, do it.
30/10/2011 22:11:38 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I will confirm that I said what I have, and will ask that anyone who would not say the same should be the most popular seller on mmobay
30/10/2011 22:13:03 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I dont get loads of accounts, I dont charge high prices, I paid so much more for the paladin than I got, but I worked hard to get the ID for Dave so he could sort himself out. I don't have any time or money for WoW anymore, i have just been selling off the stuff I have.
30/10/2011 22:13:49 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I don t want that, I just say as it is and you can see yourself
30/10/2011 22:14:00 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning taht doing this without guarantees is lbetter to not do it
30/10/2011 22:14:06 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning i don t guaratee that my acc won t get recalled
30/10/2011 22:14:13 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I guaratee I ll give same acc or money back if it will
30/10/2011 22:14:23 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning and as i really do that, I do my best to get best quality accounts
30/10/2011 22:14:27 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning 1 of 100 get recalled
30/10/2011 22:14:39 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning and I can aford pay those money back in my lost and make profit son 99 of them
30/10/2011 22:14:46 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well that palladin replace would be ok let s say
30/10/2011 22:14:54 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning but what does it mean that you can t guarantee of this acc aswell
30/10/2011 22:14:59 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning means this pala will get recalled again?
30/10/2011 22:17:37 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Well this is all I have Mihail. Its not free, you make more profit than I do, im just trying to sell accounts that I have bought to play and then moved on due to real life. If i can guarantee their safety i will do all I can. The account has no ID but is on new cd keys, and thats all I have.
30/10/2011 22:17:43 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com that pala he is offering he has had for over 6 months]
30/10/2011 22:17:56 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com it should be safe
30/10/2011 22:18:06 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com I remmember thinking of buying it when I bought that slord pala
30/10/2011 22:19:42 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I make no guarantees at all..its your choice. Its not my fault that the account was recalled, but I giving you an option. I will not let this go for free, as its the only thing I have left to regain some of my losses.
30/10/2011 22:20:27 Dave Manning Nerf Twinks, ...eu-accounts.com Ok I didnt want ti to come to this..
30/10/2011 22:22:45 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning lol ok
30/10/2011 22:22:49 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well, i think you know the asnwer
30/10/2011 22:23:04 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I won t take an acc that has no ID scan, no guarantees and it s not free, after we ve lost the Pala Dave
30/10/2011 22:23:22 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning if this is the last you re selling than the Negative you ll get from us won t hurt you
30/10/2011 22:23:40 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I will just make sure on your forums feedback pages that people undertand waht they are paying for
30/10/2011 22:23:40 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning We have never done business Mihail
30/10/2011 22:23:58 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning accounts that eventualy may get recalled and they will get replacements of other accounts, with no ID scan, no guaranteed and for money
30/10/2011 22:24:04 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well you done with Dave
30/10/2011 22:24:16 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I ll make sure he ll post the negative, I will just confirm it as I was in the midle
30/10/2011 22:24:22 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning If everytime a chain sale was made and everyone who was in the chain got negatives then the forums will be a big mess
30/10/2011 22:24:26 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning waht you do is lost of time for me
30/10/2011 22:24:41 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning don t worrie, I ll make it as it should be
30/10/2011 22:24:51 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning All i have to offer you is a paladin
30/10/2011 22:24:51 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning thank you for your time, and I doubt anyone will buy anymore from you
30/10/2011 22:24:52 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning thats it
30/10/2011 22:25:07 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I will leave my contacts on your feedback, so anyone that needs more infos will get this conversation history
30/10/2011 22:25:22 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning a apaldin with no ID scan and no guarnatees
30/10/2011 22:25:25 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning thank you
30/10/2011 22:25:38 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Well I dont see you trying to reach a compromise
30/10/2011 22:25:50 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I gave you all the information I had for the OO
30/10/2011 22:26:21 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I have no obligation to offer you ANYTHING as I offered no lifetime guarantee beyond 28 days
30/10/2011 22:26:45 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I will always try to assist anyone who buys anything from me, but sometimes its not possible.
30/10/2011 22:26:56 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning well
30/10/2011 22:26:59 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning assist me than
30/10/2011 22:27:03 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I have...
30/10/2011 22:27:10 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning You know everything I know
30/10/2011 22:27:14 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I have nothing else
30/10/2011 22:27:15 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I will make sure to not make a negative post, I will just describe what you say
30/10/2011 22:27:20 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning you do all your best, doing nothing
30/10/2011 22:27:23 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning anyway, I had enoguht of that
30/10/2011 22:27:39 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning you sell accounts you don t have infos of, you don t offer guarnatees and you do nothing when they get recalled just complaining
30/10/2011 22:27:47 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning thank you for your time mate, and I m surry, but you do it bad
30/10/2011 22:27:54 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning I respect your opinion Mihail, but I dont believe its a fair one
30/10/2011 22:28:00 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I m glad that you came into my attention, less ppl to suffer from now
30/10/2011 22:28:05 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning If i dont have the information, I say that in my ad
30/10/2011 22:28:12 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning ok, well let others to decide waht to belive
30/10/2011 22:28:23 Nerf Twinks ...eu-accounts.com, Dave Manning Suits me. Please let me know when you have written it.
30/10/2011 22:28:29 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning I will just make things clear on forums, just the way you did it here, I ll say it in your own words, not mine, I promise
30/10/2011 22:28:46 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning don t worrie you ll see it
30/10/2011 22:28:46 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning buy for now
30/10/2011 22:29:39 ...eu-accounts.com Nerf Twinks, Dave Manning bye*
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBay? Around 30+
